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Old September 12th, 2007, 01:47 PM   #121
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(Wow, congratulations, Europe, on your two-hour-15-minute link between London and Paris -- WOW {my envy can't cease growing . . . }!)
Terrible attempt at sarcasm if you ask me.

These trains are basically high speed commuter trains... Like The Great Western between Paddington and Swindon...?
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Old September 13th, 2007, 04:40 PM   #122
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Yeah, half the people on those trains get off at Reading, Didcot and Swindon.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #123
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I thought so...
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Old September 14th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #124
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Yes they are high speed commuter trains, however unlike GWT these will become proper crawler commuter trains once they leave the high speed line, replacing almost like for like current train paths on services in and out of CX and Vicoria. Which means stopping and starting every few minutes and rarely getting above 70 mph, but I think it's kind of neat that they'll have this dual-personality about them.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 07:44 AM   #125
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St. Pancras Station - Renovating Eurostar's New London Home

Bringing romance to British rail

LONDON, Oct 18 (Reuters) - If you were to ask most British rail travellers to describe their daily experience, chances are the words "elegant", "romantic" and "magical" would not pass their lips.

But if Alastair Lansley has pitched things right -- and every indication so far is that he has -- rail rage may soon be a thing of the past, particularly if travelling via St Pancras, the new home for Eurostar trains to the continent.

The architect behind the renovation of the station, a 19th-century masterpiece once threatened with dereliction, is a devotee of railway architecture who's dedicated the past 11 years to returning St Pancras to its former glory.

Designed by the architect William Barlow and completed in 1868, St Pancras was once the largest enclosed space in the world, featuring a breathtaking steel-and-glass train "shed" arching 240 feet (75 metres) over the railway lines.

The station itself is a red brick Gothic marvel boasting turrets and towers that was completed in 1876 and for nearly 60 years served as one of London's most luxurious hotels.

Since 2001, both station and shed have undergone an 800 million pound ($1.6 bln) renovation to turn them into a state-of-the-art destination, not just for catching trains, but for high-end dining, shopping, champagne-drinking and living.

"We wanted to create another dimension in travel, to revive the romantic side of the railways," says Lansley as he guides a group of visitors around the beautifully restored "shed", which will officially be opened by the Queen next month and from where the first trains will depart to Paris on November 14.

"If you're travelling to Paris by train, it should evoke images of elegance and romance, and I think we're going to have achieved that."

New high-speed trains will deliver passengers from the station to Paris in just two hours and 15 minutes -- the result of a 6 billion pound, 10-year infrastructure upgrade. It will feature a stylish champagne bar overlooking the platform.

At 93 metres (300 feet), that will not only be Europe's longest champagne bar, but it will also offer up to 40 marques of bubbly to tempt tipplers whether waiting for a train or just dropping by for a drink.

A French brasserie, run by Searcy, the company behind highly rated restaurants on top of London's Gherkin and at the Barbican, will offer romantic dining behind the brick archways and sky-blue steel struts that support the glass roof.

Other features that lend a deep sense of history and romance are the vast central clock, an exact replica of the original Dent clock which was damaged while it was being removed to be sold to a collector in the 1970s.

A nine-metre sculpture by artist Paul Day featuring a man and a woman whose heads are touching in an intimate embrace will grace the floor under the clock, forming a natural meeting point for those making a rendezvous at the station.

For Lansley, elegantly dressed in a charcoal suit and white shirt with French cuffs, St Pancras represents the future of rail travel, taking Britain towards the continent.

"On the continent, everyone is aware of the beauty of rail travel, but in this country frankly it's been lost. We hope that with this station, we can bring the romance back."
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Old October 20th, 2007, 03:37 PM   #126
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I sincerely hope the best for St. Pancras and for the now finally finished Eurostar line from London to Paris or Brussels.

May it be a success.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 10:56 PM   #127
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There is a better thread in the UK forums, with a well written article to boot.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=533753
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Old October 30th, 2007, 11:38 PM   #128
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There's a video Advert on youtube showing the new stations at Ebbsfleet and St Pancras.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWSep2v1B_w
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Old October 31st, 2007, 08:52 PM   #129
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Not that I have anything against Eurostar trains, but the article says they are 'new', which is a bit misleading as they've been about since 1994.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 12:35 AM   #130
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Not that I have anything against Eurostar trains, but the article says they are 'new', which is a bit misleading as they've been about since 1994.
That sums up journalists.

I hope the new St Pancras leads to some form of sleeper service to the South of France and beyond direct from London.

Regional Eurostar may be a possibility in the future but in the meantime I hope they intoduce European Sleeper trains from St Pancras.

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Old November 8th, 2007, 11:18 AM   #131
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British Queen opens revamped Gothic London terminus

LONDON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Britain's Queen Elizabeth formally opened London's St Pancras station on Tuesday after it had an 800 million pound ($1.6 billion) facelift to give passengers an elegant send off on a new high-speed rail link to the continent.

The station, a red-brick Gothic marvel completed during the reign of Queen Victoria in 1876, becomes the new home for Eurostar trains linking London with Paris and Brussels from Nov. 14, replacing Waterloo.

The renovation of St Pancras and the laying of a new high-speed line from the capital to the coast are all part of 10-year, 10 billion pound infrastructure upgrade that will deliver passengers to Paris in just two hours 15 minutes.

Accompanied by music from the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and opera singer Katherine Jenkins, the Queen unveiled a plaque to mark the restoration of the station with its 75-metre steel-and-glass train "shed", a structure built in 1868.

"It says a good deal about how we can take a 21st century approach whilst at the same time having due consideration of our heritage," the Queen said.

While Waterloo has successfully served as a terminus for Eurostar trains since 1994, the architects of St Pancras hope their elegantly restored station will offer a more stylish, romantic point of departure and arrival.

As well as featuring Europe's longest champagne bar at 93 metres (300 feet), with 40 marques of bubbly on offer, the station will also house a French brasserie and top-end clothing and organic food stores. Fast food joints have been banished.

In an effort to evoke the classic epoch of rail travel, the station also boasts a specially commissioned 9-metre sculpture, called "The Meeting", depicting a cosmopolitan couple locked in a romantic embrace, their foreheads touching.

There have been some rumblings of criticism that the station is pitching too high-end and will not manage to become a place to visit in and of itself, but the architects say they are sure customers are ready for a more refined travel experience.

"If you're travelling to Paris by train, it should evoke images of elegance and romance, and I think we're going to have achieved that," Alastair Lansley, the architect behind the renovation, told Reuters last month.

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Old November 8th, 2007, 12:18 PM   #132
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Train Journey Times from London St Pancras



London St Pancras Station under Restoration.

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Grand Opening last night

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Old November 8th, 2007, 12:20 PM   #133
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November 7, 2007

St Pancras is restored to international glory and even the French are impressed

St Pancras is restored to international glory and even the French are impressed - Times Online



Having opened one venerable British institution yesterday morning, the Queen reopened another last night. And this is one that even the French admire.

Guillaume Pépy, head of SNCF, has described the majestically rejuvenated St Pancras, a cathedral of High Victorian engineering, as possibly the best station in the world. This, from the boss of possibly the best railway network in the world, is praise indeed, especially as it’s not one of his.

After years of parsimony and dithering, the nation that invented railways has finally caught up with the fact that trains are enjoying a 21st-century renaissance. The Queen’s official opening last night of the 68-mile (110 km) high-speed link from Central London to the Channel Tunnel marked not only the completion of Britain’s largest construction project but also a determined effort to reunite the train with the concept of romance.

Declaring the station open the Queen said: “The remarkable reverse of this great and gleaming station means that people across the whole of Britain, not just the South East, are suddenly quite a bit closer to Europe.”

In a showy ceremony involving an orchestra, singers and giant screens, William Barlow’s 1868 iron-and-glass train shed was transformed into a theatre with 1,000 invited guests, including the movers and shakers of modern railwaydom, politicians and hangers-on desperate to see a bit of a spectacle. Gordon Brown was on hand to welcome the Queen into a station that positively sings its £800 million restoration. David Cameron also shook the royal hand, as did Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, who never lets his socialist principles get in the way of a chance to meet his monarch. Timothy West – thespian, real ale gourmet and steam train buff – played Barlow the architect in a short tableau telling the history of a station that has virtually risen from the dead and that puts the Gare du Nord, at the other end of the line, to shame.

Above the Queen and the guests, the roof of the station soared 100ft like a medieval cruck barn, except that its iron ribs had been repainted in their original baby blue – the idea, apparently, of St Pancras’s first station-master, who wanted his passengers to have a reminder of the open sky.

London and Continental Railways (LCR), which restored the station and built the link to be known as High Speed One, may be sold, broken up or part-privatised after finishing the £5.8 billion project to shave 20 minutes off the time to Paris. But they have been determined to restore St Pancras not just to a station but to an experience.

The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh saw the huge Meeting Place statue of two entwined lovers, the statue of Sir John Betjeman, whose campaigning saved St Pancras from demolition, and the undercroft, which once stored Burton beer but is now a shopping arcade as well as the departure and arrival point for Eurostar passengers.

The Queen met the architects, railway chiefs and others who have toiled for nearly ten years to ensure that Par-is-bound trains can travel at 186mph on this side of the Channel as well as the other. In France, the line built in 1994 has trains hurtling through the open spaces of the Pas de Calais; here, it will now burrow at speed beneath East London instead of being stuck behind the 8.16 all-stations-to-Folkestone. But St Pancras remains a British station serving, from next Wednesday, Thameslink trains between Bedford and Brighton as well as the Midland Main Line.

Rob Holden, chief executive of LCR, said: “The opening of St Pancras International is a great source of pride for the thousands of men and women who have been involved in one of the most significant projects in UK railway history.” So, Monsieur Pépy, as the Eurostar moves from Waterloo next Wednesday, you can no longer complain about the triumphalist name of the station at the British end. And, by the way, don’t you have a station in Paris called Austerlitz?
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Old November 8th, 2007, 12:44 PM   #134
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Good news.
id like to see some more interior pics
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:37 PM   #135
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id like to see some more interior pics
The Barlow Shed under Refurbishment.

The shed was named after Gary Barlow, lead singer of Take That.

Gary Barlow was honoured at the shed being named after him, but furious
concerning runours that Kings Cross next door could be renamed the Robbie Williams Grand Central.







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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM   #136
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In typical clumsy English style, most of those journey times are wrong
The continent is an hour ahead, remember? Brussels 232 miles in 75 minutes? Yeah, right.
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In typical clumsy English style, most of those journey times are wrong
The continent is an hour ahead, remember? Brussels 232 miles in 75 minutes? Yeah, right.
Well spotted, that one should read 1 hour 51 minutes

http://www.eurostar.com/UK/uk/leisur...n_the_move.jsp

Btw the map isn't an official Eurostar guide, it was one from a British Tabloid Newspaper, which explains a lot.

I think the map is just time spent on the train rather than time differences, although the Brussels time is still wrong.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 03:55 PM   #138
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UNITED KINGDOM | High Speed Rail

Maglev train system could re-balance UK economy
Nov 7 2007 by Bill Gleeson, Liverpool Daily Post

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...4375-20071781/

A NETWORK of Maglev rail connections linking the north of England with the nation’s capital and northern cities with each other could transform the balance of the UK economy.

That is the claim made by those promoting the scheme.

The network would cost billions to build but would, it is claimed, hugely shorten travel times between cities, making business much easier to do.

Such investment would also help the region and the nation keep pace with places like China and Germany, where Maglev schemes have either already been implemented or are in the throes of being approved.

One of the leading advocates of the Maglev system is Jack Stopforth, chairman of Liverpool Chamber of Commerce. He is currently trying to raise £250,000 towards the cost of a research project to study the viability of the project.

So far, he has raised £100,000 from the Northwest Development Agency and another £50,000 from Maglev designer Siemens.

Mr Stopforth said: “This is not just a transport thing. It has the potential to re-balance the UK economy.

“Nor is it just Liverpool to London. Just imagine if Leeds and Manchester were just 15 minutes apart. What a difference that would make to connectivity in the North.

“But I think a connection between Liverpool and Manchester should be first.”

Such a link could connect Liverpool city centre, the city’s airport, the Trafford Centre, Manchester city centre and include a spur to Manchester Airport.

Much of the line could be built on Peel Holding’s Manchester Ship Canal estate, making the process easier to implement, suggests Mr Stopforth.

He says the Government has agreed to listen to the case for a Maglev network, even though it currently believes the scale of investment would make it uneconomic.

The Mersey Partnership has backed Liverpool Chamber’s ambition to conduct a study. It is now trying to persuade the region’s local authorities to chip in to the cost.

UK Ultraspeed gave a presentation at TMP’s offices recently to outline the benefits of the connection. UK Ultraspeed owns the sole rights to promote Maglevs in the UK from its German designers, engineering groups Siemens and ThyssenKrupp.

Maglev trains can travel at speeds in excess of 300mph and require little maintenance due to their lack of parts. The cars float above their tracks and are propelled by electromagnetic force.

UK Ultraspeed believes a line would be viable using private sector investment only.

Such a train could get from Liverpool to Manchester in 10 minutes, and from Liverpool to London in just under an hour.

The proposed routes would use eight times less land and half the vehicle fleet than conventional high-speed trains, it is claimed.

Although Maglev vehicles cannot use the existing infrastructure of the British railways, the track can be built up to 20 metres above ground, thus needing no major engineering structures such as bridges.

There is an existing route in Shanghai and a test route in Germany. The Shanghai service has been in operation for three years, and the city’s authorities are now planning to extend it. The current service links the city’s principal airport with the city centre.

A Maglev has run in England before, from Birmingham International station to its airport between 1984 and 1995, but was shut down as its electronic system eventually became unreliable.

The proposed north-south link between London and Glasgow via the Midlands, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle and Edinburgh, would cost an estimated £16bn.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 04:28 PM   #139
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Robbie Williams Grand Central?
Anyways, great pics. Turned out nicely.
I just hope that they are taking down that awful entrance hall in front of King's Cross now.
Does anyone know when thats to happen?
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The Kings Cross scheme is due for completion in 2012.

The big glass extension on the side looks good and the current 60's crap at the front of the station will go with the orginal facade and new forecourt replacing it



Inside the new glass extension.

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