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Old November 11th, 2007, 01:33 PM   #161
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Is that the new Thameslink station below ground to the right in this pic?
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Amazing station, btw
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Old November 11th, 2007, 02:34 PM   #162
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No, I believe that is the Arcade - one of the main retail areas of the station.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:14 PM   #163
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I think Ben is correct... I also think the Thameslink is going to be in a seperate section, behind the wall on the right, I can't see where else there would be any space!
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:18 PM   #164
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If you look here, I think it's going under the bit where the yellow crane is, beside the British Library.

This is just an educated (relatively) guess though so don't take my word for it.

EDIT: I think it's at the far left of the "new" station actually!

EDIT: Basically I don't have a clue.

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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:22 PM   #165
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Anyone have photos of what the new extension to the station looks like?

It's always hidden from the spotlight.

I have a feeling something much nicer could of been designed.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:27 PM   #166
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It's bland on purpose... They didn't want to "outshine" the old station.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM   #167
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Wouldn't Maglev cost hundreds of billions of dollars? And isn't it an unproven technology?
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Old November 11th, 2007, 07:42 PM   #168
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What is wrong with my ppppunctuatiooon?
"I think it would be better to first get our current railway system running efficeintly (should be "efficiently") rather than going for (should be an "a" here) maglev (should be a comma here) i (should be a capital) mean this must be a joke right (bad grammar, you need a question mark after "right" and a comma after "joke" to make it read properly) I (should be an "It") took me nearly 9 hours to get from (should be a "the" here) east coast of scotland to manchester never again will i (again, this should be a capital letter.) be making that journey by train."

If you want your arguments to have any kind of value then please take time to get some simple grammar right. You can't even hide behind the shield of being a foreigner! Maybe you're dyslexic...
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Old November 12th, 2007, 03:21 PM   #169
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If you look here, I think it's going under the bit where the yellow crane is, beside the British Library.

This is just an educated (relatively) guess though so don't take my word for it.

EDIT: I think it's at the far left of the "new" station actually!

EDIT: Basically I don't have a clue.
Very roughly speaking, the Thameslinkplatforms will stretch from the yellow crane to the yellow hoardings at the bottom of the hotel.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:48 PM   #170
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Breathtaking photos... Fantastic photos! Magnificent station! GO ENGLAND!!!
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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:10 AM   #171
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Wouldn't Maglev cost hundreds of billions of dollars? And isn't it an unproven technology?
We spend half a trillion dollars every year on offense... er, I mean "defense." Our government's budget is $3 trillion, much of it spent inefficiently. A few hundred billion amortized over a decade is not impractical -- what we lack is ambition, not money. The only thing that makes maglev seem so expensive is all the people thinking it's expensive. What makes it unproven is everyone thinking it's unproven. That's the downside of democracy. Commitment is hard to come by when everyone is a killjoy. (not you specifically, don't mind me ) In any case, nothing says rail must be profitable. If highways are an enterprise, it's a business that loses nearly $100 billion a year. Measure rail by the same stick as highways, or measure highways by the same stick as rail (would you pay thousands in tolls just to drive?), and rail fares pretty well.

Besides, we're talking about the UK here. Connecting major urban hubs with maglev would be orders of magnitude cheaper in the UK than in the US.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #172
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"I think it would be better to first get our current railway system running efficeintly (should be "efficiently") rather than going for (should be an "a" here) maglev (should be a comma here) i (should be a capital) mean this must be a joke right (bad grammar, you need a question mark after "right" and a comma after "joke" to make it read properly) I (should be an "It") took me nearly 9 hours to get from (should be a "the" here) east coast of scotland to manchester never again will i (again, this should be a capital letter.) be making that journey by train."

If you want your arguments to have any kind of value then please take time to get some simple grammar right. You can't even hide behind the shield of being a foreigner! Maybe you're dyslexic...
i think you just have too much time on your hands i actully have a life!
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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #173
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Is there an indoor connection with King's Cross?
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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:44 PM   #174
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looks very nice indeed
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Old November 13th, 2007, 03:01 PM   #175
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Eurostar speeds towards new era despite French strike

LONDON, Nov 13, 2007 (AFP) - Eurostar prepared Tuesday to whizz into a new era with the launch of a fully high-speed link between London and the European continent, insisting it will not be slowed by a French transport strike.

The last Eurostar high-speed train from Paris was set to arrive at London's Waterloo station Tuesday evening, before the service transfers on Wednesday morning to a freshly-renovated new terminus at St Pancras, north of the Thames.

Until now, Eurostar trains, first launched in 1994, have sped across northern France at 300 kilometres (186 miles) per hour, only to slow to a relative crawl on ageing track on the British stretch of the Channel tunnel.

But following the completion of a new stretch of high-speed track, the new trains will whisk passengers between the French and British capitals in two hours and 15 minutes, shaving 20 minutes off the previous time.

Eurostar is preparing celebrations when the first new train arrives Wednesday at St Pancras, which has been transformed from crumbling Victorian terminus into a glitzy new hub to host the new service.

But the launch comes as France is bracing for several days of transport chaos, as railway workers launch an open-ended strike against plans to reform their pensions privileges.

The French national rail network faced major disruption from 8:00 pm (1900 GMT) Tuesday, and from Wednesday morning the shutdown will hit most underground Metro and suburban commuter train lines into Paris.

Eurostar insists its St Pancras launch will go like clockwork, saying it has switched from Anglo-French crews to all-British staff for the inaugural services.

"We are confident that our services will not be disrupted, although passengers taking other forms of public transport after arriving in Paris must be prepared for delays," said a Eurostar spokesman.

The first train from St Pancras to Paris Wednesday will leave London at 1101 GMT, while the first arrival from Paris will be at 1109 GMT. The last train from Waterloo to Paris was due to leave Tuesday at 1809 GMT.

The 5.8-billion-pound (8.4-billion-euro, 12-billion-dollar) transformation comes following the completion of a 68-mile (109-kilometre) section of high-speed line, dubbed High Speed 1, on the British side.

Waterloo, named after an 1815 battle in which Britain defeated French leader Napoleon Bonaparte, is architecturally uninspiring and crowded, with cramped waiting rooms and two tiny cafes providing scant welcome.

St Pancras, a red-brick Gothic revival masterpiece, which only a few years ago was crumbling into disrepair, has been restored to its former glory with new additions including the world's longest champagne bar and chic boutiques.

"A 21st century station will be replacing a station from the 1980s," said Guillaume Pepy, chairman of Eurostar, whose advertisements highlighting the switch carried the slogan "Forget Waterloo".

In Britain, where the railways are something of a national joke due to frequent overcrowding and delays, the opening of the new St Pancras terminal is being viewed as a dual opportunity.

As well as making the trip easier for existing customers, Eurostar hopes it will open up train travel to continental Europe to people living in central and northern England and Scotland.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 03:08 PM   #176
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Very roughly speaking, the Thameslinkplatforms will stretch from the yellow crane to the yellow hoardings at the bottom of the hotel.


Thameslink forms part of the new glass extension at St Pancras (see CharlieP's Post) and will open next month.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 11:11 PM   #177
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St Pancras spent Ł800 million becoming a destination in it's self, meanwhile Kings Cross (next door to St Pancras) spent Ł30 on an old sign and shoved an old luggage trolley in to a wall to become a tourist destination. That's a saving of Ł799,000,970.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #178
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Is there an indoor connection with King's Cross?
Only if you include the link via the King's Cross St Pancras Tube station. I imagine most people will just walk above ground though.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #179
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Final call for Waterloo Eurostar

BBC News

13 November 2007

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7092104.stm


Eurostar services will now terminate at St Pancras

The last Eurostar train out of London Waterloo has left, almost exactly 13 years after the first.
From Wednesday St Pancras, recently refurbished at a cost of Ł800m, will become the new home of high-speed rail services to the continent.

Waterloo's award-winning terminal is expected to be used to take the burden off existing services to Surrey.

The first Eurostar left Waterloo on 14 November 1994 and the last departed at 1812 GMT on 13 November.

The Ł130m station, with its striking snaking glass roof and designed by Nicholas Grimshaw, was widely admired.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 11:48 PM   #180
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Waterloo Station - London.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2865114.ece

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