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Old November 20th, 2010, 01:40 PM   #21
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Does anyone know when the redevelopment of that area is supposed to start?
I think I read 2020 somewhere a while ago, but I'm not sure at all. 2020 seems so far for China.

It would be interesting to know when the Zhujiang New Town CBD has been planned. This could give us a hint about that project.

I have found numerous pictures of Baietan's project showing all very different masterplans. Is the masterplan in this post the final version?
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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:02 PM   #22
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Does anyone know when the redevelopment of that area is supposed to start?
I think I read 2020 somewhere a while ago, but I'm not sure at all. 2020 seems so far for China.

It would be interesting to know when the Zhujiang New Town CBD has been planned. This could give us a hint about that project.

I have found numerous pictures of Baietan's project showing all very different masterplans. Is the masterplan in this post the final version?
December 2005


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November 2008


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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:22 PM   #23
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I did some research and all I found is chinese informations on this page.

From what I understood it seems that the government started to plan Zhujiang New Town in 1999 and according to your pictures the constructions really started actively in 2005.

Baietan seems to be in the very first phase of planning. We shouldn't see any activity there so soon. Constructions might start in 5 years or later as unlike the Zhujiang New Town plot, the area is build. People will have to be relocated and buildings removed.

ps. thanks for the pics zorg, I've seen others from different angle (Tianhe Beilu somewhere) but I get the same feeling everytime, China is really astonishing.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 06:34 AM   #24
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@Zorg

All that in just 5years, can't wait to see what the next five has instore.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 05:21 PM   #25
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All that in just 5years, can't wait to see what the next five has instore.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 07:35 PM   #26
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last pics looks like a fake
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Old November 25th, 2010, 02:14 AM   #27
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No, that last picture is just extremely compressed.

A different view of that last picture. (more updated too)
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Old November 25th, 2010, 02:41 AM   #28
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this tower looks terrible....imo and its area in GZ ruins its impact. its another poorly places supertall in china :/ (not trying to start a fight just expressing my feelings about it)
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Old November 25th, 2010, 02:43 AM   #29
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I'm sorry, but how the hell does this tower look terrible and poorly placed? I fail to see the logic.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 03:50 AM   #30
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I'm sorry, but how the hell does this tower look terrible and poorly placed? I fail to see the logic.
the reason it looks terrible is purely my opinion. im not saying you should think its bad looking because i do. and i feel like it should be placed a lot closer to Guangzhou IFC and begin to build a more central skyline like pudong district in shanghai
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Old November 25th, 2010, 04:01 AM   #31
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Shanghai actually have more than one CBD, and some of are their skyscrapers are separated in various district so not all of them are in pudong. Because of immense urban population (Guangzhou have 16 million peepo), they have to divert their financial centers but don't worry...Guangzhou's Zhujiang CBD will be very dense.

Heres a list of supertalls proposed that are not in Shanghai Pudong.
SHANGHAI | Zhenru Center | 300m+ | 1000ft+ | Pro
SHANGHAI | Xintiandi Phase 2 | 305m~ | 1000ft~ | 68 fl | App
SHANGHAI | Xujiahui Center | 380m | 1246ft | Pro

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Old November 25th, 2010, 04:04 AM   #32
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Guangzhou is tiny compare to Shanghai. They need to build more towers behind TV tower.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 04:18 AM   #33
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Yes they are already planning to

check here.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=353
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Old November 25th, 2010, 09:08 AM   #34
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Shanghai actually have more than one CBD, and some of are their skyscrapers are separated in various district so not all of them are in pudong. Because of immense urban population (Guangzhou have 16 million peepo), they have to divert their financial centers but don't worry...Guangzhou's Zhujiang CBD will be very dense.

Heres a list of supertalls proposed that are not in Shanghai Pudong.
SHANGHAI | Zhenru Center | 300m+ | 1000ft+ | Pro
SHANGHAI | Xintiandi Phase 2 | 305m~ | 1000ft~ | 68 fl | App
SHANGHAI | Xujiahui Center | 380m | 1246ft | Pro
yes i know but none of their other cbd's are nearly as dominate to the skyline as pudong. when people take photos of the shanghai they will almost always ignore the buildings outside of pudong. and i believe this will happen to Guangzhou
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yes i know but none of their other cbd's are nearly as dominate to the skyline as pudong. when people take photos of the shanghai they will almost always ignore the buildings outside of pudong. and i believe this will happen to Guangzhou

i think not for Guangzhou..they could maybe put a tourist vantage point like victoria peak so that the whole skyline is in oneness(if the only thing that matters is taking panoramic photos of the city)..and besides, decongestion is the new thing in china..in a span of 5years, they've built all that up..what more can we expect but spectacle from China..
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Old November 25th, 2010, 09:41 AM   #36
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yes i know but none of their other cbd's are nearly as dominate to the skyline as pudong. when people take photos of the shanghai they will almost always ignore the buildings outside of pudong. and i believe this will happen to Guangzhou
Are you sure? cuz these spots are pretty popular too
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/...742c500e_o.jpg
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//f...0/11/22/28.jpg

Well check this thread...its full of photos that aren't Pudong
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...age%3D1&page=1
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...extra=page%3D1

Anyways..we'll see.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 11:12 AM   #37
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Bai'etan is a great location for a new CBD much better than ZNT it much closer to the historical core of GZ it got Shamian and Bar Street great attractions right across the river. Relocating people should not take as long since the area is mostly occupied by old factories. Looking at the proposals Datansha is going to be redeveloped too.

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Old November 25th, 2010, 01:12 PM   #38
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yea ive never seen those parts of the skyline being frequently put on postcards. if i were to show someone that part of the skyline they wouldn't have any clue that its shanghai.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 05:55 PM   #39
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Old December 30th, 2010, 06:08 PM   #40
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Too many boxes, ugly main tower lol. Complete Yuck lol. Is this just a proposal or final design. Gz can do a lot better than this.
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