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Old March 17th, 2014, 12:28 PM   #461
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This actually makes me wonder why the EU didn't also standardise 96cm platforms, alongside the 55cm and 76cm. For instance the Netherlands would probably have picked 96cm (up from the 84cm they used to have) if it was an option.
They probably choose two heights that provided a migration path for everyone...

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And yes, I do realise that creating a train that can cope with all platform heights between 55cm and 96cm would be difficult (think of a Thalys from Amsterdam to Paris), but not impossible. In the USA the platform height spread is even bigger, yet they manage. It's only a problem with international traffic.
In the USA they manage by:
- Having separate fleets for service in the east and the west. You won't find superliners in the northeast for example.
- Having long dwell times at stations with low platforms so only a few doors need to be opened, and steps can be placed.

I guess the EU wanted to avoid that...
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Old March 17th, 2014, 01:27 PM   #462
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They do use the Talent2 with 600mm low floors between Cottbus and Leipzig for an S-Bahn like service. Also I saw the same Talent2 in a grey S-Bahn livery with also seems to have those 600mm floors. So they do exist, because sometimes you don't have a choice when you need to share platforms between all services.
There are no S-Bahn like services in and around Leipzig though. Don't be misled by the badge on the trains. The service which are funneled through the newly opened trunk route are pretty much the same services they were half a year ago. Low-frequent regional all-stopping services which serve rural areas with consequently low patronage.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #463
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Since today, one of the German/Danish ICE (non-electric) High-Speed trains changed colors from the ICE-design onto the Danish DSB look:



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http://www.jernbanen.dk/forum/index.php?id=78726
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Old March 19th, 2014, 11:33 PM   #464
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Interesting, I thought a country like Denmark would have mostly electrified lines.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 01:43 AM   #465
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Too bad. The bland and dull blue/gray color scheme is vastly inferior to the sleek and bright DB ICE coloration.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 03:22 AM   #466
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Interesting, I thought a country like Denmark would have mostly electrified lines.
I don't know what "a country like Denmark" is, but Denmark in fact has many lines yet unelectrified, which is why they bought those horrible AnsaldoBreda diesel trains.

Plans are now underway to electrify and speed up large parts of their network.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:52 AM   #467
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Interesting, I thought a country like Denmark would have mostly electrified lines.
Denmark is really electricaly-poor country, in comparison to other Nordic countries, that have an extensive hydrogeneration (Norway), atom plants (Finland) or mix of both (Sweden)
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Old March 21st, 2014, 12:27 AM   #468
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All mainlines in Denmark will be electrified in the mid twenties.

The timeline are like this

Lunderskov - Esbjerg in 2015
The new high speed line Copenhagen - Ringsted in 2018
Kĝge Nord - Nĉstved in 2018
Ringsted - Fehmarn Tunnel in 2021
Fredericia - Aarhus in 2021-2023
Roskilde - Kalundborg in 2022-2024
Aarhus - Frederikshavn in 2023-2025
Vejle - Struer in 2024-2026

The Odense - Middelfart and Hovedgaard - Aarhus high speed lines and the Vejle Fjord crossing will of course also be electrified.
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Old March 21st, 2014, 04:59 AM   #469
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I have a question: what is the minimum advance required to buy seat reservations on ICE? I can't find that information, and I'm curious about it (since Germany is the only big European country that de-couples reservations from ticketing on high-speed trains)
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I have a question: what is the minimum advance required to buy seat reservations on ICE? I can't find that information, and I'm curious about it (since Germany is the only big European country that de-couples reservations from ticketing on high-speed trains)
You can reserve a seat literally the minute before you board. Such a short-term reservation won't be displayed in the train, however. So have to be prepared to that your seat won't necessarily be free and that you have to displace people on it.
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Today the 8th Siemens Velaro-D high-speed bullet train was handed over to Deutsche Bahn at the Berlin Hauptbahnhof.
8 more trains are on order and they should be delivered in the near future.

The ultimate wet dream of DB is to send these trains to Belgium, France and even London.
It will however take some years to get all the paper work done.





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Old April 3rd, 2014, 09:04 AM   #472
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It will however take some years to get all the paper work done.
It seems the EU is working on that. Currently every country has it's own certification procedure, with specific tests that need to be performed even if the exact same test was already performed earlier in a different country. For most trains that would mean that in the future you only need to reasses the changes needed to get certified.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 09:18 AM   #473
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It seems the EU is working on that.
Well, but do you know about any real progress towards a true solution in this question?
While the EU did achieve significant integration in many other areas, I still can see the rail transport as an exempt from this. In fact we still have in Europe many "railway kingdoms" with not sufficiently integrated national rail systems of which the mentioned certifications' incompatibility is a notable example.
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Leaving Frankfurt Am Main Central Station. Video shot from the inside of the high-speed train:


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Since today, one of the German/Danish ICE (non-electric) High-Speed trains changed colors from the ICE-design onto the Danish DSB look:

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http://www.jernbanen.dk/forum/index.php?id=78726
looks like crap compare to DB
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Today the 8th Siemens Velaro-D high-speed bullet train was handed over to Deutsche Bahn at the Berlin Hauptbahnhof.
8 more trains are on order and they should be delivered in the near future.

The ultimate wet dream of DB is to send these trains to Belgium, France and even London.
It will however take some years to get all the paper work done.





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Velaro's are my favorite high speed trains when it comes to looks...haven't ridden on one yet...I wish the Texas high speed railway would use Velaro's.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 03:44 AM   #478
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Velaro's are my favorite high speed trains when it comes to looks...haven't ridden on one yet...I wish the Texas high speed railway would use Velaro's.
I like the Velaro`s looks too, but I thought the D was a step down compared to the CRH 380C.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 01:49 PM   #479
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The ICE1/2 and all the ICE3 403 derivatives were styled by the German designer Alexander Neumeister. The new 407 was inspired by that design, but major changes were needed to comply with the current regulations.

Actually I can't recall a single ugly Neumeister designed train. As for the looks I would choose the JR West 500. You've guessed it, that was also designed by that same guy.
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The ICE1/2 and all the ICE3 403 derivatives were styled by the German designer Alexander Neumeister. The new 407 was inspired by that design, but major changes were needed to comply with the current regulations.

Actually I can't recall a single ugly Neumeister designed train. As for the looks I would choose the JR West 500. You've guessed it, that was also designed by that same guy.
The JR West 500 looks like a Mercedes on rail. Sweet! The ICE3/CRH3/380B is my all time favorite type of train. When it comes to cars I also think Germans design the best looks.

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