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Old August 10th, 2011, 08:09 PM   #301
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They still do share with a legit commuter train line, the South Shore line, though.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 10:31 PM   #302
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Holy shizat, those tracks are in poor conditions.... Have they never heard of track maintenance?
If you read one of my earlier posts in this thread I mentioned earlier that the CTA is in the process of modernizing the entire system.

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Old August 11th, 2011, 06:36 PM   #303
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This is not an official CTA video ... thanks for stopping by.
Well, doesn't that just go to show us the neverending inherent impotence to dynamic corporate promotions (it's called grooving on by )
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Old August 11th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #304
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Well, doesn't that just go to show us the neverending inherent impotence to dynamic corporate promotions (it's called grooving on by )
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Old August 11th, 2011, 07:18 PM   #305
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Really? I dare you to think of pointing stellar corporate imagination out to us ... you couldn't DV8, couldja?



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Yes, our system is VERY old
▲▲ Tell me, are there others who grew up in a homey 350-year-old Chicago cottage, there? Must the following installation've
achieved heritage status? ▼▼ looks to be even dangerous enough for some hapless blind person
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Old August 11th, 2011, 09:00 PM   #306
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Really?
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are there others who grew up in a homey 350-year-old Chicago cottage
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Must the following installation've achieved heritage status?
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Old August 11th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #307
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Tell us, is this what Chicago calls a loopy-inducing metro bridge? I mean --what with lack of fireproofing there and all-- I don't see how any metro can be categorised as such should the --uhm-- rendered service yield the ROW to passing barges
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:29 PM   #308
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Tell us, is this what Chicago calls a loopy-inducing metro bridge?
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rendered service yield the ROW to passing barges
Barges, no. Sailboats and other vessels that don't clear, yes. Typically, bridge raising is only done during specific days and hours in the spring and fall, organized with the CTA to minimize disruption. If you like that, you'll love our at-grade crossings...

Keep these brilliant questions coming! You are impressing the hell out of us with your expertise of metros and transit. Hell, I'm surprised you aren't appointed RTA president to fix all of our shenanigans.

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Old August 12th, 2011, 12:16 AM   #309
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Love the raising bridge, very unique part of Chicago subway system or El if you will.

What lines cross that bridge? Orange? Pink?

And I would love it if some of you Chicagoans posted pics and videos of Metra over at the US Regional Rail thread in the Railways section.
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Love the raising bridge, very unique part of Chicago subway system or El if you will.

What lines cross that bridge? Orange? Pink?.
On the north: Brown and Purple. To the West: Green and Pink.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 01:46 AM   #311
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Some photos of Metra statiions on the Union Pacific/North line.































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Old August 13th, 2011, 03:41 AM   #312
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Metra board shows little support for cutting weekday trains
By Richard Wronski
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5:19 p.m. CDT, August 12, 2011
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,2186519.story


Metra's board today threw cold water on a proposal unveiled last month to eliminate 31 weekday trains.

Board members took no formal vote but expressed disfavor with any significant service cuts.

"We're not in the business of cutting service," board member Jim LaBelle said.

Instead, Metra staff proposed a less painful option that would still make weekend service cuts on three lines, as proposed last month, and also eliminate the SouthWest Service extension to Manhattan from Orland Park on two weekday trains.

Weekend service would be reduced on three lines -- the Milwaukee District North, Union Pacific North and SouthWest Service.

The board took no action today.

Neither was any action taken on fare hikes. Discussion on fare hikes is expected to be held at the Sept 16 meeting.

In July, Metra staff sketched out proposals to eliminate 31 weekday trains and 18 weekend trains to save some $8.2 million a year. Without any service cuts, Metra officials said at the time that riders could face a 12 percent fare hike in 2012 and an additional 8 percent increase the following year.

Metra most recently raised fares last year, when weekend fares rose from $5 to $7, and the price of one-way tickets went up an average of 6 percent. Metra raised regular weekday fares 10 percent in 2008.
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Tell us, is this what Chicago calls a loopy-inducing metro bridge? I mean --what with lack of fireproofing there and all-- I don't see how any metro can be categorised as such should the --uhm-- rendered service yield the ROW to passing barges
The bridges are raised 12 times in the spring and 12 times in the fall to allow hundreds of sailboats to pass between the winter dry docks along the river and the summer dockings out in Lake Michigan. They can't let the boats sit out in the lake all winter because it gets very violent with winter storms, and also the lake harbors tend to freeze over solid.

The bridges are opened on saturday mornings and on Wednesday mornings after the morning rush hour has passed.

The opening of the bridges doesn't just halt traffic on the Brown, Pink, Green and Purple lines, it also halts street and foot traffic in and out of the entire Loop area as each bridge is opened, closed. They don't just open these things up all day long for any boat who wants to get through (the barges, and there are a lot of them, just pass under the bridges) or tie up rush hour traffic.

It only takes 8-10 minutes per bridge though, and it's all done during the least busy times of the day. It's not that big of a deal, and it has to be done to let hunderds and hundreds of boats pass through for the summer season.
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Isn't the Chicago River part of the US Navigable Waterways system? If so, isn't it federal law to open the bridges for any boats that need/request it?
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Isn't the Chicago River part of the US Navigable Waterways system? If so, isn't it federal law to open the bridges for any boats that need/request it?
They are required to open the bridges, but they keep it on a fairly tight schedule since obviously it would create havoc if they had to open and close the bridges on a daily basis in regards to all the train/pedestrian/road traffic that crosses all those bridges. Almost all commercial craft as well as pleasure craft can easily pass under the downtown bridges. It's mostly just the stock of privately owned sailboats that need the bridges to open each season.

The city coordinates with the marinas in the spring and fall so they have a schedule of times and days where the marinas release the boats and they can travel down the river en-mass.

The city is required to operate the locks in and out of lake michigan on a much more "by request" basis. Pull up and they'll operate them for you.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #316
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very unique part of Chicago subway system or El if you will.
I won't because it's precisely this 'uniqueness' that disqualifies all those lines --along with the Skokie shuttle-- from the metro category.

Fabulously wealthy-looking community seemingly investing mere pennies into mass transit over there all these semi-centuries now warrants snark
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Old August 17th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #317
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Plan paves way for bus rapid transit system
CTA, Metropolitan Planning Council envision high-speed bus travel around Chicago
By Jon Hilkevitch, TRIBUNE REPORTER
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August 17, 2011
Conditions are ripe in Chicago to try launching the first true bus rapid transit system in the U.S., according to advocates who will unveil their blueprint Wednesday.

The proposal being introduced by the Metropolitan Planning Council calls for starting with a network of 10 CTA bus rapid transit routes covering about 95 miles of mostly bus-only lanes, with buses making stops every half mile at special stations where passenger prepay their fares just like at rail stations.

The service is aimed at producing major travel time savings by doubling average speeds compared to regular buses stuck in traffic, as well as connecting with nearby CTA and Metra rail stations.

The routes recommended in the study also serve major destinations including hospitals, schools, parks and shopping areas. The routes are on 95th Street, Ashland Avenue, Cicero Avenue, Fullerton/Grand Avenue, Garfield Street, Halsted Street, Irving Park Road, King Drive/Cottage Grove Avenue/Stony Island Avenue, Pulaski Road/Crawford Avenue, and Western Avenue.

They differ in most cases from the three routes the CTA is planning (on Jeffery Boulevard, Western and an east-west transitway connecting commuter rail stations in the Loop), and another three routes in the future. The streets selected in the new study are wider and more linear, which make it generally easier to implement and operate rapid transit bus lines, officials said.

The two major locations where the CTA and the study agree are on Ashland and Western avenues, where the CTA is conducting a corridor study covering 21 square miles.

"Given the funding constraints, our plan for three routes is an aggressive, reasonable and workable plan,'' CTA spokeswoman Molly Sullivan said.

The planning council's feasibility study forecast 40,000 additional transit trips daily in its proposed bus rapid transit corridors. In addition, the new form of express service would fill in existing gaps in CTA service, making it easier to move across the city without going through the downtown, officials said.

"This system will connect people to where they want to go,'' said Josh Ellis, project manager at the planning council. The first routes could start operating in three to four years, he said.

Existing CTA plans to introduce bus rapid transit fall short of full-blown bus rapid transit, which delivers a decided advantage over car travel by shifting one traffic lane in each direction to bus-only use 24 hours a day.

Asked whether it was achievable politically to take up to 50 percent of lane capacity away from car and truck drivers, Peter Skosey, the planning council's vice president, said, "Mayor (Rahm) Emanuel and everyone he appointed are intrigued by the possibilities'' of bus rapid transit, which is known as BRT.

Other features designed to speed up trips and produce a premium travel experience for riders include traffic signals that give rapid-transit buses priority at intersections and prepaid boarding at bus stations. Passengers would also board from station platforms level with the bus floors.

CTA President Forrest Claypool acknowledged that the current CTA version amounts to "BRT light." The CTA experiment envisions part-time bus-only lanes, and those only during rush hours. The initial rollout would not include prepaid passenger boarding, meaning that buses would be stopped at stations for substantially longer than a minute.

The cost to construct a bus rapid transit network is estimated at $13.3 million per mile, according to the study. The capital cost of building a heavy rail system similar to the CTA rail structure averages more than $96 million per mile, the report said.

The timing is right in Chicago to attempt the real deal on bus rapid transit, the advocates said, pointing to the high priority Emanuel has placed on reforming public transit to reverse increasing gridlock and using transportation to incubate an economic revival.

"There are some good bus rapid transit systems in the U.S., but none of them meet the gold standard,'' said Annie Weinstock, bus rapid transit program director at the Institute for Transportation & Development Policy in New York. The institute worked with the planning council on the study.

"I was in Chicago a couple of weeks ago, and it seems there is a broad agreement that everyone wants to go for gold on the new lines,'' Weinstock said.

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"bus stops every 1/2 mile". Well, honestly, the bus system should be like this already...at the very least every 1/4 mile. Not EVERY SINGLE BLOCK. It's so ridiculous. At major intersections there's even stops before and after the traffic light.

And prepay...why don't we do this already? We have people queuing every block and paying cash. Get some fare machines in local businesses and Jewel, promote ''order online' and Chicago Cards. These are things that can be done NOW without a huge grant or subsidy. It just boggles my mind.

As far as green light preference, I feel this only matters at truly atrocious intersections like Fullerton/Damen/Elston where it takes 20 minutes and 5 light rotations to cross.
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Old August 17th, 2011, 07:04 PM   #319
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Sounds like an interesting plan. What about the bus-exclusive lanes? Will there be at least some way to prevent cars from using those lanes to pass (like some kind of curb to separate the bus lane from the rest of the road)?
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Old August 17th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #320
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its interesting that chicago is going for the BRT bandwagon but at the same time i wish the BRT's were like trolleybuses mixed with Light Rail these corridors can benefit that because i see most BRT's are powered by diesel buses although some are converted to BioDiesel, CNG and other renawable energies.

i am hoping they would implant trolleybuses in those corridors it would make more sense but go chicago.
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