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Old August 17th, 2011, 08:33 PM   #321
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The BRT fad is pretty annoying. I guess it's better than nothing though. Even in BRT-land of South America they are now realizing they need rail transit to supplement or replace BRT.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #322
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The BRT fad is pretty annoying. I guess it's better than nothing though. Even in BRT-land of South America they are now realizing they need rail transit to supplement or replace BRT.
I do not understand why providing buses with their own lanes, and improving the stop spacing and frequency has to be considered BRT. This term used for too much for sort of bus improvement.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 02:55 AM   #323
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I do not understand why providing buses with their own lanes, and improving the stop spacing and frequency has to be considered BRT. This term used for too much for sort of bus improvement.
Exactly. I feel this should be basic bus service.
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It appears that Chicago has four different stations named Kedzie, plus a fifth one called Kedzie-Homan. I've noticed other names also repeated for CTA stations.

With the lack of a readily-available CTA station listing posted on the Web, how are passengers supposed to distinguish between the recurring stations while no civic number to the street-named station addresses is indicated? It's confusing
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It appears that Chicago has four different stations named Kedzie, plus a fifth one called Kedzie-Homan. I've noticed other names also repeated for CTA stations.

With the lack of a readily-available CTA station listing posted on the Web, how are passengers supposed to distinguish between the recurring stations while no civic number to the street-named station addresses is indicated? It's confusing
The same happens in New York City at an even worse scale, but it's implied based on the line and destination. If you were at Brooklyn Bridge in NYC on the 4/5/6 and you asked for directions to Central Park, a New Yorker would say to get off at 59th. Now although there's a stop at 59th Street on Lex and 8th, you'd know to use the former since that's on the same line as the train you're about to board. The same happens in Chicago.
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Okay, but the distances between the Chicago stations appear much greater than your NYC examples.

Navigating the CTA's website wasn't instantaneous. It would work, however, if they listed their stations by name, line and street address, such that a traveller could easily do the arithmetic on the civic numbers in order to determine which station be the closest.

(In Montreal, for example, the additional stations that opened up on the same streets simply took on the name of the next-nearest streets so as to avoid any duplicity.)
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Old September 30th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #337
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It appears that Chicago has four different stations named Kedzie, plus a fifth one called Kedzie-Homan. I've noticed other names also repeated for CTA stations.

...how are passengers supposed to distinguish between the recurring stations
If there is confusion you nip it in the bud with [Line Color][Station Name]. Otherwise it's all contextual. I take the Brown Line almost exclusively: when I say I'm getting off at Damen, my wife certainly doesn't think I'm at Damen and 22nd St. If I am, I'll explicitly say "I'm getting off at Pink Line Damen". It's not that hard.

To throw a wrench in that logic, consider repeated station names on the same line: Western Blue Line. Well, you just really gotta be specific.

Most tourists will never encounter this problem, and most locals will know contextually which one you mean. When in doubt, just be specific.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #338
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Navigating the CTA's website wasn't instantaneous. It would work, however, if they listed their stations by name, line and street address, such that a traveller could easily do the arithmetic on the civic numbers in order to determine which station be the close
How is this not clear enough?


Straight from CTA website.

...and with Google/Bing maps, you can get fairly accurate transit directions.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 02:18 AM   #339
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A list! with civic numbers! -- you ought to see the tourists pour over our own network map, which represents a network merely one third the size of Chicago's; besides, the CTA's map's still the only one where I've noticed station labels taking either axis, so it's not that readily clear for folks who are used to other alphabets

Interesting, the CTA not naming the stations, e.g., N Kedzie, S Kedzie...
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Old October 1st, 2011, 06:46 AM   #340
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It all depends on the city re station names

Chicago is flat and has a grid-system street layout. My guess is there is no other city in the world of Chicago's size or larger that is so tied to a street grid system (if I'm wrong, tell me).

What works for London and Paris wouldn't make sense in Chicago. If I'm on the green line, I want to get off at Kedzie, not some station named "whatever". Same as if I'm on the orange line. If I'm on the green line and should be on the orange line, then I've got bigger problems. But I grew up in Chicago so it makes sense to me.

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