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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:03 PM   #401
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What we currently call the Pink Line, and short portions of other lines, have indeed been supplanted with concrete. But just because a steel structure needs to be painted doesn't mean it's structurally unsound.
Thanks, so the structural integrity of the 'El' is sound and will remain so for many more decades. Definately gives Chicago a unique feel. What sort of upgrade funds are available to improve the appearance of the network?
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:45 PM   #402
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so the structural integrity of the 'L' is sound and will remain so for many more decades
So they say.

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What sort of upgrade funds are available to improve the appearance of the network?
Appearance? Hell, we're just happy there's money to keep it running.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 07:25 PM   #403
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^ As is for every other rapid transit systems in North America, other thsn Vancouver.

Because its new Vancouver's Skytrain looks great.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 08:10 PM   #404
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^ As is for every other rapid transit systems in North America, other thsn Vancouver.

Because its new Vancouver's Skytrain looks great.
The Skytrain is relatively new. Remember, many sections of Chicago's L dates back to the 1890's.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 10:38 PM   #405
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The new stop on the Yellow Line is opening on April 30 in Skokie.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 03:21 AM   #406
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The Skytrain is relatively new. Remember, many sections of Chicago's L dates back to the 1890's.
Yea, that shaking wooden platforms though. It really shakes especially when its really windy.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #407
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Honestly, I thought Chicago's els predated the 1890s ...
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Old April 25th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #408
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The South Side Rapid Transit Line opened in 1892 in time for the Colombian Expo.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #409
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Thanks, so the structural integrity of the 'El' is sound and will remain so for many more decades. Definately gives Chicago a unique feel. What sort of upgrade funds are available to improve the appearance of the network?
* They're rebuilding all of the subway stations on the Red Line through downtown. They started with Lake, Jackson, Chicago and Roosevelt, and have no completed Jackson and just a few months ago, Grand. They're now starting on the Clark/Lake stations. I believe work is also being done on the Blue Line subway stations. I know Jackson was rebuilt a few years ago.

* They're painting the L structure in the Loop, starting with the Wabash side a few years ago. They're also tearing down the Randolph and Madison stations (the worst looking in the Loop) and replacing them with one larger station in between.

* Coverage is being increased with brand new stations at Oakton on the Yellow Line, Cermack on the Green Line and Morgan on the Green and Pink lines.

* Non-appearance items are track replacement along the elevated loop, track rehabiliation along the south branch of the Red Line, Puple Line viaduct work up north and security camera installation at all stations.

* Dozens of new bus tracker displays are being installed in bus shelters throughout the city, announcing via GPS how long until the next 5-6 buses arrive.

Work on the Granville, Morse, Thorndale, Argyle, Berwyn, Lawrence and Jarvis stations along the north Red Line is getting underway, with each station closing for around 6 weeks. The planned work will include:

Station houses:
New windows, doors and exterior lighting
Exterior tuck pointing
Improved station layouts
New turnstiles
New interior finishes (tile, floor, walls and ceiling)
New signage and interior lighting
Site improvements including sidewalk repairs and new bike racks
Security camera system will be maintained and/or modified

Trackwork:
New waterproofing and drainage system
New track in area of viaduct
Repair concrete trackbed and walls

Viaducts:
Concrete repairs to station viaducts
Painting/coating in viaduct areas
New, brighter lighting under viaducts

Platforms:
Platform deck structure and foundation replacement
Platform fixtures, furnishings and canopy improvements
New customer communication system

Crews are (finally) doing a hard cleaning and renovation of over 100 stations throughout the system. Spending between a few hundred thousand and a million on each station to send in multiple crews and tackle any fixable issues they can find. Mostly focusing on power-wash walls, floors, stairs, ceilings and elevators, repaint painted surfaces, improve the lighting, remove graffiti, clean gutters and drains, replace outdated or damaged signage, etc. These have been met with a lot of praise, as many of the stations that are decades old look almost new within a week of hard work.

To date the following stations have been worked on:

Chicago, Division and Grand (Blue Line)
35th-Bronzeville-IIT (Green Line)
Addison (Red Line)
Jackson (Blue Line)
Monroe (Blue Line)
Washington (Blue Line)
Clark/Lake (Blue Line, Thompson Center)
Harrison (Red Line)
Monroe (Red Line)
Western (Orange Line)
Lake (Red Line)
43rd (Green Line)
Chicago (Red Line)
Belmont (Blue Line)
Halsted (Green Line)
Addison (Brown Line)
Polk (Pink Line)
Pulaski (Green Line)
Argyle (Red Line)
California (Blue Line)
Kostner (Pink Line)
Skokie (Yellow Line)
Cicero (Blue Line)
Jarvis (Red Line)
Halsted (Orange Line)
South Blvd. (Purple Line)
Logan Square (Blue Line)
47th (Red Line)
Damen (Blue Line)
Washington (Blue Line)
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Old April 26th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #410
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Even something for the rusty ADA-non-compliant purple-headed stepchild in Evanston.

http://www.cityofevanston.org/public...ject/timeline/
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Old May 1st, 2012, 04:14 AM   #411
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A new rapid transit station has opened in Skokie, IL. This is the third station on the CTA Yellow Line and the sole intermediate station between the termini at Dempster St (Skokie) and Howard St (Chicago).

Source: http://gridchicago.com/2012/grid-shots-shiny-and-new/ AND http://www.flickr.com/photos/zol87/s...th/6982276222/

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Old May 1st, 2012, 07:42 AM   #412
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Does Brown Line have grade crossings? I rode from Kimball to the Loop but it was at night and couldnt see much outside.
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Yes, the Brown Line runs at grade west of the Chicago River, so there are grade crossings between Rockwell and Kimball stations.

There are also grade crossings on the Pink and Purple lines.
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Old May 1st, 2012, 07:57 AM   #414
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Pink? I thought that was all elevated.
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Old May 1st, 2012, 09:54 PM   #415
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Just how many further disqualifications might Chicago bear?



Brown Line -- it seems this crossing was finally equipped with barriers around 2007



Purple Line



Pink Line




Blue Line -- comment to this video claims two dozens' worth
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Prior to June 2006, the Blue Line split on the west side of Chicago, and one of the branches ran mostly elevated to Cicero but ended up on the surface.

On June 25, 2006, the CTA introduced the Pink Line and Cicero trains (known as the Cermak branch) started running into the Loop. The result is that the Blue Line is now entirely underground/elevated/freeway median and the new Pink Line is elevated/surface.

The last video in the above post shows the Pink Line.

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Just how many further disqualifications might Chicago bear?
Tokyo's way worse. They have commuter trains running at grade at metro frequency over busy crossings that are open for one minute per hour. Here, these are just a few short stretches on the periphery with relatively little auto traffic and easily accessible workaround roads that do not intersect with rail.
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[QUOTE=trainrover;90977815]Just how many further disqualifications might Chicago bear?

Disqualifications?
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"Commuter trains" is fine, quite understandable, but going so far as to be seeing the words "subway" and "crossing" constituting the title to one of the those four videos, well ...
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trainrover, get ready to disqualify Chicago with your witty wordgasms:

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Old May 3rd, 2012, 12:57 AM   #420
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Disqualifications?
I think what he means is that the official definition of rapid transit (ie subway or metro) requires that it be both high frequency and fully grade separated from other traffic including pedestrians, road vehicles, and general railroad. Systems that meet only one criteria by being only grade separated and low frequency or being high frequency and non-grade separated tend to be classed as something else such as commuter rail, light rail etc.
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