daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Subways and Urban Transport

Subways and Urban Transport Metros, subways, light rail, trams, buses and other local transport systems



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old September 26th, 2014, 08:53 AM   #741
BoulderGrad
Registered User
 
BoulderGrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,505
Likes (Received): 1171

Quote:
Originally Posted by LtBk View Post
What happened to the planned Circle Line or whatever it's called for Chicago L? It sucks that even today our most urban cities can't get the money needed for transit expansion or improvement.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chicago+circle+line
__________________
My safety word is "Keep Going."
BoulderGrad no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old September 27th, 2014, 08:13 AM   #742
dimlys1994
Moderator
 
dimlys1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dniepropetrovsk
Posts: 16,335
Likes (Received): 26113

Progress on new Cermak-McCormick Place station on Green line:


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr


Cermak-McCormick Place by cta web, on Flickr
__________________

Q3671, kyah117, Arnorian liked this post
dimlys1994 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 27th, 2014, 05:04 PM   #743
MrAronymous
Registered User
 
MrAronymous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,956
Likes (Received): 6067

Congratulations on modernizations.
__________________

dimlys1994 liked this post
MrAronymous no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 29th, 2014, 07:20 AM   #744
Markotic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 276
Likes (Received): 97

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAronymous View Post
Congratulations on modernizations.
Actually this is a new station, not really an upgrade/modernization.
The stop had a station decades ago, as I recall, or there was one nearby. But, a number of stations got destroyed. Some should have been as they were too close to one another, but many should not have been demolished.



@ guy regarding circle line...
...that was a poorly thought up plan, and was relying on the olympics in large part, because if they got that then they would gave gotten a lot of federal funding for such a joke project. I am glad that it failed. Actually, I should publish an article criticizing that plan. The concept of a circle line is good, but the way they went about it in Chicago was bad. But, the thing is... they didn't really go about it much. They just had a few ideas for it, ideas which I feel were bad from the get go.
Funding is the main issue though. I don't see them building it in the near future. Rather I see various upgrades and hopefully an extension of a few lines a little bit... The L system has barely expanded over the last few decades... since 1990 they only added the orange line for example. Other than that they have only been doing major rehab, much needed rehab...

Last edited by Markotic; September 29th, 2014 at 07:25 AM.
Markotic no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 29th, 2014, 10:56 AM   #745
krnboy1009
Registered User
 
krnboy1009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 1,661
Likes (Received): 169

Honestly, connecting Union Station directly to the rapid transit system would immensely improve this system.
__________________

lkstrknb liked this post
krnboy1009 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 29th, 2014, 09:05 PM   #746
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

Closing 2-3 stations on the loop would immensely improve this system in the first place.
Now there are stations every 100m at some spots on the loop!
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany

lkstrknb liked this post
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 30th, 2014, 08:19 PM   #747
FabriFlorence
Registered User
 
FabriFlorence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Firenze
Posts: 1,768
Likes (Received): 400

Quote:
Originally Posted by krnboy1009 View Post
Honestly, connecting Union Station directly to the rapid transit system would immensely improve this system.
I agree. It's really strange that no one has never thought to build a people mover to connect Union Station to the loop.
FabriFlorence no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 2nd, 2014, 04:25 PM   #748
achybo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: ktm..MSP..ord
Posts: 741
Likes (Received): 1737

Robert Schwandl's blog about Chicago's El on Urbanrail

http://schwandl.blogspot.com/2014/09/chicago-l.html
__________________

Q3671 liked this post
achybo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 6th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #749
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

[IMG]http://i62.************/1pz311.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i61.************/dnfsir.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i62.************/5yb1pf.jpg[/IMG]
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany

Scizoid.Trans.Prog. liked this post
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 6th, 2014, 11:39 PM   #750
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

[IMG]http://i62.************/wvodjd.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i57.************/wuidk4.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i59.************/11ce6ma.jpg[/IMG]
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany

Scizoid.Trans.Prog. liked this post
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 8th, 2014, 03:07 PM   #751
Jim856796
Registered User
 
Jim856796's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Citizen of the World
Posts: 8,954
Likes (Received): 847

Does anyone here think that some of the stations of the Chicago "L" (underground and overground) look undersized, especially for a city of its sale?

(Just an opinion.)
__________________
I honestly think all development projects must be sustainable and futureproof.

You support the good projects... and oppose the bad.
Jim856796 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 8th, 2014, 06:26 PM   #752
Chicagoago
Registered User
 
Chicagoago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,707
Likes (Received): 1451

Quote:
Originally Posted by FabriFlorence View Post
I agree. It's really strange that no one has never thought to build a people mover to connect Union Station to the loop.
They THOUGHT of it 100 times. It never seemed to pan out though, quite expensive with the river running directly next to Union Station and Ogilvy station as well as the historical network of tunnels already running under every street in the Loop and then the Blue/Red lines crossing the path and the high water table. That said though - it certainly COULD be done, there have always been talks of putting a small subway from the commuter/amtrak stations over towards Michgan Ave.

They ARE doing something though, they're starting construction on a new BRT that's supposed to finish up next year. It will create a new bus station around the station and reconstruct 4 streets that go n/s and e/w around the stations and into the loop with new bike lanes and dedicated bus lanes with special quick-load stations.

__________________
It was twelve noon...of course I was drunk

Generación93 liked this post
Chicagoago no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 8th, 2014, 06:32 PM   #753
Chicagoago
Registered User
 
Chicagoago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,707
Likes (Received): 1451

double post
__________________
It was twelve noon...of course I was drunk
Chicagoago no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 8th, 2014, 11:12 PM   #754
Markotic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 276
Likes (Received): 97

@krnboy1009
Union station and the loop are SO CLOSE to one another. Walking so close wouldn't hurt I think.

@Falubaz
I disagree. There were three station on the western part of the system in the loop - two got eliminated and one replaced them. So there are two instead of three on that side. That there is your reduction. On the eastern part there are three stations, it may seem like a lot, but it's not because Michigan avenue gets so many foot traffic...
There are better places where one can eliminate stations. Like a 30 sec walk from Belmont station, there is a station. :P Too close... and that's just one example.

@Jim856796
The system is so old. So yes, but that's expected when the system is so old and when mass transit experienced so much disinvestment in the US context.

@Chicagoago
I laugh in their face of their so called BRT. It's not BRT if it is not grade separated. Chicago will never have a true BRT. What they call BRT is a joke, in my opinion it's an insult to people's dignity, but what is worse is that they actually fool some people into thinking that what they propose truly is BRT. :P
Markotic no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 9th, 2014, 12:07 AM   #755
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

The distance between La Salle/Van Buren and Library is shorter than the platforms at those stations. So what's the point of keeping them two so close, i think it's odd (if not just stupid)?

IF
Quote:
Union station and the loop are SO CLOSE to one another. Walking so close wouldn't hurt I think.
then it shouldnt hurt in this particulary case as well.

It's just weird for me. Always when i travel on the loop it takes ages. Trains stay longer at the stations than they actually travel between them. It's waste of time and waste of the capacity of the loop in my opinion.
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 9th, 2014, 12:38 AM   #756
DCUrbanist
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 62
Likes (Received): 62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markotic View Post
@krnboy1009
I laugh in their face of their so called BRT. It's not BRT if it is not grade separated.
I might have to disagree with you there. Grade separation, of course, is a HUGE indicator, but there are enough individual design elements with regard to BRT that there's an entire scorecard dedicated to assessing the quality. That said, I do entirely agree that far too many projects upgrading regular buses get depicted as BRT. I just disagree that here is an example of that.

As far as projects go, this seems like a pretty effective, minimal-impact, and budget-aware tactic for dramatically improving service. If only more cities added dedicated lanes to their trunk routes.

https://www.itdp.org/library/standar...the-scorecard/
DCUrbanist no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 10th, 2014, 07:07 PM   #757
dimlys1994
Moderator
 
dimlys1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dniepropetrovsk
Posts: 16,335
Likes (Received): 26113

From Railway Gazette:

Quote:
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/n...tion-plan.html

Chicago commuter modernisation plan
10 Oct 2014



USA: Chicago commuter rail operator Metra has proposed a 10-year, $2·4bn modernisation plan, which it says is the ‘first long-term rolling stock plan in Metra history’.

Of the current fleet of 837 coaches, 40% date from before the 1990s. The plan would see the purchase of 367 new cars to replace 318 cars with an average age of 43 years and to increase by 49 the number of spare cars. The total cost is estimated at $1·2bn, with 106 cars to be delivered in 2018-19 and 261 in 2020-24. This is in addition to the 186 Highliner cars for the Metra Electric Line, deliveries of which are due to end next year

...
dimlys1994 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 14th, 2014, 08:56 PM   #758
dimlys1994
Moderator
 
dimlys1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dniepropetrovsk
Posts: 16,335
Likes (Received): 26113

Update on California station upgrade:


California Station Improvements (9/25/2014) by cta web, on Flickr


California Station Improvements (9/25/2014) by cta web, on Flickr


California Station Improvements (9/25/2014) by cta web, on Flickr


California Station Improvements (9/25/2014) by cta web, on Flickr


California Station Improvements (9/25/2014) by cta web, on Flickr
dimlys1994 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 14th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #759
Falubaz
Registered User
 
Falubaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Zielona Gora, Polska
Posts: 14,799
Likes (Received): 2940

The shelters at the L's platforms should be longer, in a city like Chicago, with long winters and hot summers people should have chance to hide.
__________________
Zielona Góra - Ziemia Lubuska

₪₪₪Zielona Góra moim okiem₪₪₪ Zielonogórskie autobusy₪₪₪Port Lotniczy ZIElona Góra₪₪₪ BRT₪₪₪ścieżki rowerowe w ZG
₪₪₪[Świat] „Przebłyski pamięci”₪₪₪Moja Ameryka - nie tylko Stany
Falubaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 15th, 2014, 02:08 AM   #760
Geography
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 447
Likes (Received): 104

How many kilometers of new line are due to open in the next 5 years? How many new stations?
Geography no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
chicago, illinois, public transport

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium