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Old January 4th, 2005, 04:25 AM   #141
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Old January 4th, 2005, 09:36 PM   #142
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Shanghai's new runway will be ready in march
4 January 2005
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The second runway at Shanghai's international airport will start operating in March, with a third to follow before the end of 2007 as part of the city's ambitious plans to create a global air hub.

The announcement, made through state media, marks the first time the city has released a timetable for the opening of the two new runways at Pudong International Airport. A fourth is planned, depending on market conditions.

A second terminal building is also scheduled to open in 2008. The new runways and terminal will be able to accommodate the Airbus A380 super jumbo, officials of the Shanghai Airport Group said.
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Old January 5th, 2005, 08:43 PM   #143
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Southern Airlines may order 20 Boeing 7E7s

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China Southern Airlines could be set to place a 2.4 billion dollar order for 20 of Boeing's new 7E7 jets.

The new fuel-efficient jets could be operational by the Beijing 2008 Olympics.

Last month, Chinese aviation authorities reportedly ordered a freeze on new commercial aircraft orders in 2005 in an effort to curb sharp and uncontrolled growth by domestic airlines.

However, airline company executives have shrugged off the new directive saying it would not affect development strategies as the ban only applied to new purchases in 2005 and not deliveries of existing orders.

Liu Shaoyong, a China Southern Airlines manager, said that the company's purchasing plans had already been decided and were not affected.

Boeing is said to have secured initial agreements with three other Chinese airlines, as well as Southern, for orders of 7E7s for delivery by 2008.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 02:15 AM   #144
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One of the most amazing airports I have dealt with in China has been the one in Panzhihua, over the top of a hill. Not only for the airport itself but for the investment done in infrastructure around the whole mountain. There is only space for the runway, nothing else. They got a new Airbus to deal with it because of the landing precision required. Amazing. Did not get pictures, next time, but if you find one air view, it is impressive.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 10:00 PM   #146
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I can't bealive that Shanghai dosn't have a larger airport!
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Old January 6th, 2005, 10:18 PM   #147
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I can't bealive that Shanghai dosn't have a larger airport!
It's getting larger, very larger. Be patient
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Old January 6th, 2005, 10:31 PM   #148
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Wuhan airport just started to build a new big terminal.


Beijing airport in 1950s

terminal I in 1980s

terminal II in 1990s


Guilin Liangjiang airport


Wuhan Tianhe airport, terminal I
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Old January 6th, 2005, 11:55 PM   #149
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Wednesday January 5, 3:11 PM
China Southern Airlines may order 20 Boeing 7E7s

BEIJING (AFP) - China Southern Airlines, the country's top domestic carrier, could be set to place a 2.4 billion dollar order for 20 of Boeing's new 7E7 jets.

Boeing's new fuel-efficient jets could be deliverd by 2008, when the Olympic Games will be held in Beijing, the Beijing News reported, citing unnamed sources.

Last month, Chinese aviation authorities reportedly ordered a freeze on new commercial aircraft orders in 2005 in an effort to curb sharp and uncontrolled growth by domestic airlines.

However, airline company executives have shrugged off the new directive saying it would not affect development strategies as the ban only applied to new purchases in 2005 and not deliveries of existing orders.

Liu Shaoyong, a China Southern Airlines manager, was quoted as saying that the company's purchasing plans had already been decided and were not affected.

Boeing is believed to have secured initial agreements with four Chinese airlines for orders of 7E7s for delivery by 2008.

Boeing has so far received 126 orders for 7E7s, with 56 confirmed, leaving it short of its 2004 launch target of some 200. The aircraft is seen as crucial in the company's strategy as it faces up to ever increasing competition from Europe's Airbus.

The Boeing plane will carry around 217 passengers on routes of up to 15,700 kilometers (9,800 miles).

The world's biggest aircraft builder said the plane will use 20 percent less fuel than any similar sized jet while travelling at speeds of around 850 kilometers (530 miles) an hour.
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Old January 7th, 2005, 12:06 AM   #150
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i hope the continental will receive the right to fly into china
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Old January 7th, 2005, 06:22 AM   #151
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China has how many international airports?
I think the only international airports in China are Beijing Capital, Shanghai Pudong, Guangzhou New Baiyun and Hong Kong Int'l. From these cities, all other Chinese cities can be reached with domestic flights. They have some kind of rule that only allows international flights to land in these four "coastal" cities, perhaps as a defense mechanism of some sort or just because China is just emerging in terms of amount of commercial air traffic.

Again, I'm not sure about any of this. Can anyone help straighten me out?
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I think the only international airports in China are Beijing Capital, Shanghai Pudong, Guangzhou New Baiyun and Hong Kong Int'l. From these cities, all other Chinese cities can be reached with domestic flights. They have some kind of rule that only allows international flights to land in these four "coastal" cities, perhaps as a defense mechanism of some sort or just because China is just emerging in terms of amount of commercial air traffic.

Again, I'm not sure about any of this. Can anyone help straighten me out?
No such rules long time ago, dozens of cities, incl Chengdu, Kunming, Xian, Urumqi, Xiamen, Shenyang, Harbin, Nanjing, Hangzhou, Wuhan, Chongqing, Lasa, Changchun, Fuzhou etc have regular international routes, and will have more cities in future.
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If only Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and HK allow fly international routes, these big four would have much more passengers, but I think current policy are more friendly and convenient to the passengers, basically saving time and having more choice. However it makes Seoul, Tokyo and Bangkok as a transfer hub for many Chinese passengers, they all have many flights to many Chinese cities, and I remember when I took the flight transfered at Tokyo and Seoul, half of the passengers on the planes from Tokyo or Seoul to US are Chinese.
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I think the only international airports in China are Beijing Capital, Shanghai Pudong, Guangzhou New Baiyun and Hong Kong Int'l. From these cities, all other Chinese cities can be reached with domestic flights. They have some kind of rule that only allows international flights to land in these four "coastal" cities, perhaps as a defense mechanism of some sort or just because China is just emerging in terms of amount of commercial air traffic.

Again, I'm not sure about any of this. Can anyone help straighten me out?
no,China has at least 40 international airports.
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China has how many international airports?
I cant believe you can live in Washington DC,your english...
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no,China has at least 40 international airports.
40? wow, I know there are many, but don't know that many.

Do you have the list?

I know Haikou, Dalian, Qingdao, Jinan, Ningbo, Fuzhou, Shenzhen have international flights besides those I gave above, maybe Zhengzhou, Changsha, Yantai......
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40? wow, I know there are many, but don't know that many.

Do you have the list?

I know Haikou, Dalian, Qingdao, Jinan, Ningbo, Fuzhou, Shenzhen have international flights besides those I gave above, maybe Zhengzhou, Changsha, Yantai......
most provinces has at least a international airport.
Cant you forget Kuming wujiaba intenational,Xi'an xianyang intenational,Chengdu shuangliu intenational,Chongqing jiangbei intenational,shenyang xiantao intenational,Hangzhou xiaoshan intenational,Xiamen Gaoqi intenational,Wuhan tianhe
intenational,Wulumuqi diwopu intenational,...the east China provinces have more international airports.
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I've already listed them in the previous post.

I just googled some more, so we can list what we know

Beijing
Shanghai
Guangzhou
We don't need to list these big 3, too many

Shenzhen: Singapore, Osaka

Chengdu: Singapore, Bangkok, Osaka, Phuket(recent tsunami), Kathmandu, Tokyo, Seoul, Paris

Chongqing: Tokyo, Seoul, Nagoya(stopped?), Kuala Lumpur(new?)

Kunming: Yangon, Bangkok, Dubai, Singapore, Osaka, Siem Reap, etc

Guilin: Osaka, Fukuoka, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok,

Nanning: Hanoi, Phnom Penh, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore,

Haikou: 19 international flights to Hainan now and many more will be open. Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Osaka, Seoul, Bangkok, Fukuoka,

Sanya: Seoul, Busan, Moscow, Vladivostok

Shantou

Changsha: Seoul

Nanchang: Singapore(through GZ)

Wuhan:Seoul, Paris, Osaka, Fukuoka, Aukland, Sydney, Singapore

Zhengzhou: Bangkok, Seoul

Xiamen: too many, at least 24 international routes, Singapore, Bangkok, Osaka, Tokyo, Manila, Jakata, Kuala Lumpur, Pechang, Seoul, 雅比? etc

Fuzhou: 7 flights, Osaka, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur

Wenzhou: ?

Hangzhou: Tokyo, Osaka, Seoul, Nagoya, Singapore, etc

Ningbo: Singapore, Bangkok, Seoul

Nanjing: Singapore, Seoul, Nagoya, Osaka, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, and to Canada and Russia

Qingdao: Bangkok, Singapore, Seoul, Daqiu (Korea, name?) and other Korean cities, there are tens thousands of Koreans in Qingdao, Osaka and many other Japanese cities

Jinan: Singapore, Bangkok

Tianjin: Seoul, Vladivostok, Singapore and many cargo flights

Shenyang: Singapore, Tyoko, Seoul, Pyongyang, and many other Korean and Japanese routes (沈阳—东京、沈阳-大阪、沈阳-札幌、沈阳-福冈, 沈阳-汉城、沈阳-清州、沈阳-大邱、沈阳-釜山)

Dalian: 20 international routes, many to Japan and Russia (大连-东京、大连-大阪、大连-富山、大连-富冈、大连-名古屋, 大连-汉城), Munich (via BJ), 伯力, 伊尔库斯克, Vladivostok, Singapore,

changchun: Tokyo, Sendai(Japan, spell?), Minsk, Seoul, Vladivostok, 伊尔库茨克

Yanji: Seoul

Harbin: another important international hub, may routes, especially to Russia, Japan, Korea and Los Angeles,

Taiyan: will open to Japan, Korea and Asean flights soon

Xian:important international airport, flights to many Japanese, Korean, Asean cities

Huhhot: Ulanbatar (Mongolia) Chitar (Russia)


Urumqi, very important international airport, to many Central Asia, European, Arabic flights, and also to many Japan, Korea, and Asean cities.

Kashi: Islambadad

Lasa:Kathmandu

Maybe there are more, but it does show a lot international airports in China now, things change so fast.

Chinese international flights by 2003
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China to drive growth in air traffic
7 January 2005
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China looks set to lead the world's growth in passenger and cargo traffic in the next several years. Nophakhun Limsamarnphun reports in the final part of a series on the aviation business.

The International Air Transport Association (IATA), which groups more than 270 airlines worldwide, has forecast that global passenger and cargo traffic will grow at an annual average rate of 6 per cent until 2008.

Over the four years, China will likely head the pack, with a 12.5-per-cent annual growth rate in passenger traffic, followed by Poland, Hungary, the United Arab Emirates and the Czech Republic.

As for cargo traffic, the China-Netherlands route will likely see the highest average annual growth at 23 per cent. Next will be Poland-Sri Lanka, 21.7 per cent; Phillippines-Hungary, 18.2 per cent; China-Malaysia, 16.2 per cent; and Austria-China, 14.6 per cent.

Of the world's three most dynamic regions in terms of economic prospects, Asia comes out ahead of North America and Europe in most forecasts for the next four years. Asian growth is mainly driven by China, an increasingly dynamic India and a hesitant recovery in Japan, Brian Pierce, IATA's chief economist, said during a recent global media briefing in Geneva.

"China is set for powerful medium-term growth under its ongoing economic liberalisation policies and the investment boom that has been generated," Pierce said, adding that Asia's high growth prospects for the aviation industry are against the backdrop of a slightly weaker world economy projected for this year.

Giovanni Bisignani, IATA director-general, said: "It looks like we've finished 2004 with the strongest traffic rebound that the industry has seen since the 1991 recovery from the effects of the Gulf War. Expectations for the rest of the forecast period are in line with historical trends. If nothing changes in the operating environment, this is the start of a good news story for the industry."

As for last year, passenger and cargo traffic is expected to have grown by more than 10 per cent, with China and India being the main engines.

On China, Bisignani said its government appeared to be on the right track in promoting the aviation industry as 20 airports are being planned or are under construction, at a combined cost of more than US$160 billion (Bt6.3 trillion). This is to prepare for the high growth rates in both passenger and cargo traffic over the next several years and for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

"Obviously, they have a vision that represents great challenges and opportunities for the rest of the world in terms of competition [for aviation business] and for investment funds. China has also adopted the 'open skies' policy for Shanghai and Hainan, for instance.

"It has also embraced new air routes and has prepared other policies for fast and balanced development of the aviation industry," Bisignani said in an interview with The Nation.
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