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Old April 6th, 2007, 06:30 AM   #201
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I like the simplistic scheme on CRH, it is certainly better than whatever is on the old Chinese trains. Now THAT was ugly paint.
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Old April 6th, 2007, 07:46 AM   #202
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A bit tacky with the Chinese-style towers. The other structures seem a bit boring and hastily put together. Not very coherent, IMO.

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Old April 6th, 2007, 08:00 AM   #203
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it's an old station (over 10 years) and the design was controversial at the beginning.
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Old April 7th, 2007, 12:57 AM   #204
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I think Taipei has a station like that too.
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Old April 7th, 2007, 03:33 AM   #205
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Isn't China currently building a new station in Beijing?
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Old April 7th, 2007, 11:19 AM   #206
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massive station!
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Old April 7th, 2007, 12:03 PM   #207
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I think the concept of the design is very nice, the railway station as the modern city gate. It's also positive that they attempt to adhere to traditional architecture. But I don't find the execution that very well succeeded. And I don't like the aesthetical appearance of the interior at all. The inside looks like a giant mall. It's a pity because it's one of the most important, if not the most important, railway stations in China.
So to be short, nice concept in mind, exterior gives a grand impressive, nice that they try to incorporate traditional features but bad execution, very unappealing interior.
I prefer the grandeur of big European stations.

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Yes. They're building a new south station. I believe it is meant as a terminus for high speed trains to Tianjin and Shanghai. But I may be wrong on that last one.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 08:55 AM   #208
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An ugly, horrid piece of architecture.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 08:59 AM   #209
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Just copy others technology and build your own version.
Then proclaim on the media as your own.
Not much to be proud of really
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Old April 8th, 2007, 09:02 AM   #210
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They're not copied; I think it was already mentioned twice. These are imported trains/tech. The news just says "locally-produced," without mentioning where the designs are from. One railway official did make the misleading claim that the "technology is Chinese," which is only true because of tech. transfer from Alstom, Shinkansen, etc.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #211
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Yep... national pride
I think its understandable
because in China national pride is everything

The Chinese media has this very important task
to use carefully-worded language
to lie in a clever way

Welcome to China
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Old April 8th, 2007, 09:10 AM   #212
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Western companies do realize that they cannot merely sell more trainsets to China without doing some technology transfer, hence joint ventures and local production would definitely be in the mix when it comes to a multi-million dollar purchase deal such as this one.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 09:11 AM   #213
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Shanghai South heaps better
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Old April 8th, 2007, 09:55 AM   #214
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Yep... national pride
I think its understandable
because in China national pride is everything

The Chinese media has this very important task
to use carefully-worded language
to lie in a clever way

Welcome to China
weren't you banned before? or someone with a similiar name was banned? Anyway, it doesn't matter, if you keep going further, you will probably also be banned.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 10:00 AM   #215
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Just copy others technology and build your own version.
Then proclaim on the media as your own.
Not much to be proud of really
do some search about a thing called licensed production before you open your big ******* ignorant mouth.
Koreans call TGV KTX, Spaniards call TGV AVE, are theirs copied too?
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Old April 8th, 2007, 10:05 AM   #216
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do some search about a thing called licensed production before you open your big ******* ignorant mouth.
Koreans call TGV KTX, Spaniards call TGV AVE, are theirs copied too?
Korean media would acknowledge that its from the TGV
If ppl here can make a quick search of the Chinese CCTV media
and then use Altavista Bablefish to translate it
Then you will know what I mean

In fact there was a Japanese media report citing ohw Chinese media make their own interpretations, proclaiming that China possesses full rights licensed production of CRH2 and yet not a single word that technology is from Japan. And most ironic of all is they are running CRH 2 to Nanjing.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 10:06 AM   #217
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do some search about a thing called licensed production before you open your big ******* ignorant mouth.
Koreans call TGV KTX, Spaniards call TGV AVE, are theirs copied too?
Whoa! Watch your language.
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Old April 8th, 2007, 10:13 AM   #218
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Korean media would acknowledge that its from the TGV
If ppl here can make a quick search of the Chinese CCTV media
and then use Altavista Bablefish to translate it
Then you will know what I mean

In fact there was a Japanese media report citing ohw Chinese media make their own interpretations, proclaiming that China possesses full rights licensed production of CRH2 and yet not a single word that technology is from Japan. And most ironic of all is they are running CRH 2 to Nanjing.
watch it yourself.
I am sick of ignorant TROLLS like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q95ibDWA82c
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Old April 8th, 2007, 10:14 AM   #219
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http://news.cctv.com/20070408/100321.shtml
The official Chinese news media reports on the sixth speed increase nationwide,

here is a short excerpt of the report regarding high speed rail trainsets with the corresponding English translation below. This very long article of more than 1000 words did mention 75% of it is Chinese made but not a single word on where the technology is from.

  将在4月18日全国铁路第六次大面积提速中投入使用的时速200公里及以上动车组,因其技术新颖、速度飞快、并且以英文字母“D”打头,被人们亲切地称作头文字“D”列车,而这些首次被投入使用的“子弹头”动车组也成为此次提速最为抢眼的亮点所在。据悉,第六次大提速的新产品就是以开行城际间和城市群间动车组为主要标志的新产品服务,其速度目标值、技术含量、提速规模和范围都将超过我国前五次铁路提速。

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  有关专家告诉本报记者,此次推出时速200到250公里的动车组在引进消化创新的基础上,在集成、牵引、制动、车体、走行以及网络等关键技术上都有所创新,譬如我们生产的动车组,车体重量比传统客车减轻了一半。“动车组的国产化率达到了75%以上,可以说中国人已经掌握了时速200公里以上动车组的核心技术。

  
Translation from internet translator
"Moved vehicle crew's domestic product rate to achieve above 75%, was allowed to say the Chinese already grasped above the speed 200 kilometers to move vehicle crew's core technology."
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Old April 8th, 2007, 10:17 AM   #220
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wow, that's very nice.
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