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Old July 21st, 2011, 03:56 AM   #2721
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In which month is the opening due date of Beijing-Shijiazhuang? Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Wuhan?
not specified. both are scheduled to open in late 2012 according to reports, but seems they should be ready before that.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 04:05 AM   #2722
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Great update Fragel. It's awesome all the major HSRs will open by the end of this year.

Cheers.
it is harder to get updates on lesser-known PDLs.

according to the old schedule most of them should open within this year. After the adjustment, Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Wuhan PDL will open next year, and it is not certain if Harbin-Dalian can make it this year.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 04:48 PM   #2723
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Shanghai-Beijing high speed tracks near Xuzhou City-Jiwang district!

Crisscrossing G3 Jingtai expressway and G310 road.

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Old July 22nd, 2011, 04:50 PM   #2724
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wind-protection gallery experimental section completed on Lanxin (Lanzhou-Urumqi) HSR

the 276m long experimental section is used to collect data for constructing the whole 38km long gallery.





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Old July 22nd, 2011, 04:51 PM   #2725
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 04:54 PM   #2726
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Only G trains use this new tracks? D trains ply in old track?
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 04:59 PM   #2727
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^all D trains (including D sleeper trains) between Beijing and Shanghai were moved from the old line to the new HSR. definitely not the best move but that is what the MoR decided to do, and maybe they will adjust that.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 05:06 PM   #2728
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^all D trains (including D sleeper trains) between Beijing and Shanghai were moved from the old line to the new HSR. definitely not the best move but that is what the MoR decided to do, and maybe they will adjust that.
That will surely help in capacity utilization of new line and easing the congestion in old line.

Looks Xuzhou is located almost equal distance between Shanghai and Beijing. And every high speed train stops here!! Hope I get chance either to cover Xuzhou to Shanghai or Beijing.

Is there any non-stop train between Beijing and Shanghai on new route?
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 05:16 PM   #2729
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Update on Shanghai-Kunming PDL

total length: 2022 km

the PDL comprises three sections: Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL (currently in operation), Hangzhou-Changsha PDL (construction started in Dec 2009) and Changsha-Kunming PDL (construction started in Mar 2010).

rough route(wiki):
major cities on the line, from left to right: Shanghai, Hangzhou, Nanchang, Changsha, Guiyang and Kunming


construction in Jiangxi Province









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construction in Karst-prone regions


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Old July 22nd, 2011, 05:31 PM   #2730
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That will surely help in capacity utilization of new line and easing the congestion in old line.

Looks Xuzhou is located almost equal distance between Shanghai and Beijing. And every high speed train stops here!! Hope I get chance either to cover Xuzhou to Shanghai or Beijing.

Is there any non-stop train between Beijing and Shanghai on new route?
what I meant is that they should have kept some overnight D-trains on the old line as there is no overnight service on the HSR. the few overnight slow trains on the old line are over-crowded.

there is no non-stop train on the HSR, but there are one-stop trains between Beijing and Shanghai which stop only at Nanjing.
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 05:07 PM   #2731
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Railway cuts bullet trains from schedule

Updated: 2011-07-23
By Tan Zongyang (China Daily)

BEIJING - China's railway authority is about to suspend two pairs of bullet trains on part of the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway because of their low occupancy rate.

Two shuttle trains to Jinan, in Shandong province, one from Beijing, the other from Tianjin, will be "temporarily halted" starting Monday, according to a notice on the Tianjin Railway Station's website on Wednesday. This is the first time railway authorities have announced a reduction in service since the flagship 1,318-kilometer Beijing-Shanghai railway, the world's longest fast track, opened late last month.

"The adjustment is aimed at reducing the unnecessary waste of resources", an official at the publicity department at Beijing railway bureau, who declined to give her name, told China Daily on Friday. She said that the seat occupancy rate of the two trains is less than 20 percent, lower than the railway authority's required rate. "The cancellation is understandable, just like bus routes with very few passengers should be cut to meet market demand," she said. By 5 pm on Friday, the railway authority's ticket service portal "www.12306.cn" showed that the G181 bullet train, which travels from Beijing to Jinan, had more than 720 standard seats unsold. The train has more than 1,000 seats.

Xu Guodong, a Jinan businessman who took train to Beijing once a week, said that because there were so few passengers, he sometimes felt like he had chartered the train. "Usually, there are only five or six people in the first-class car, so I can sit anywhere I like," said Xu, who always purchased first-class seats. Xu said he was not worried about the reduced service because there are many alternate trains from Jinan to Beijing that can provide enough seats for passengers.

Zhao Jian, a transport expert at Beijing Jiaotong University, said the reduced service has added to his concerns that China's landmark high-speed railway might have profitability problems because of lower-than-expected passenger rates. "Insufficient passengers is a common problem seen on many of the country's new passenger lines," he said, warning that the high-speed railway network may suffer huge losses in operation.

According to the Ministry of Railways, 90 pairs of trains travel along the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed line every day. Statistics show that an average of 165,000 passengers a day used the new railway in its first two weeks of operation since July 1, while 80,000 continued to ride on the slower but less expensive old railway. However, ridership on the high-speed line was greatly affected after the service had a string of malfunctions in the past two weeks. The glitches, which caused delays and raised safety concerns, drove some passengers back to flying between the two municipalities - boosting the air ticket prices. During an online chat last week, Wang Yongping, spokesman for Ministry of Railways, apologized to passengers for the inconvenience caused by the train problems.
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 05:33 PM   #2732
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Breaking News from Xinhua - July 23, 2011

Derailed bullet train coaches fall off bridge in east China

WENZHOU, July 23 (Xinhua) -- Two coaches of a bullet train fell off a bridge after derailing in east China's Zhejiang Province late Saturday, local fire fighting sources said.

The details of casualties are unknown at the moment.

The train numbered D3115 from the provincial capital Hangzhou to the city of Wenzhou derailed at the section of Shuangyu Town in Wenzhou at 8:34 p.m., said fire fighters from Wenzhou.

Rescue personnel were rushing to the scene.

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Old July 23rd, 2011, 05:41 PM   #2733
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D3115 derailment

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The Chinese D train derailed with two of its carriages falling off a bridge

Chinese D-train derails and falls from bridge
3:23PM BST 23 Jul 2011

Dramatic pictures have just been released of a major train incident in the Wenzhou region of eastern China.

The Chinese D train derailed with two of its carriages falling off a bridge. The number of casualties, however, is still unknown, according to the official Xinhua news agency.

The train, travelling from Hangzhou to Wenzhou, went off the rails in eastern China's Zhejiang province around 8:30pm (1230 GMT), it reported, citing local firefighting sources.

The D train represents China's first-generation bullet trains. Running on regular track, they are capable of travelling at 150kph and are not part of the new high-speed network.

China is spending billions on building a high-speed rail network, with Premier Wen Jiabao on June 30 formally opening a flagship $33 billion line from Beijing to Shanghai.

That line has suffered problems with delays caused by power outages, sparking a slew of criticism online and in Chinese media.

The huge investment has made the sector a hotbed for corruption. China's state auditor has said construction companies and individuals last year siphoned off 187 million yuan ($29 million) from the Beijing-Shanghai project.
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:00 PM   #2734
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Per latest news, the thunder caused a power failure to CRH train D3115 and stopped it, the behind train D301 crashed into the back of the front train D3115 and caused the tragety. More details are coming ...

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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:18 PM   #2735
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Sorry, I'm confused: did it happen on the new PDL, or in the old regular tracks?
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:30 PM   #2736
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Should be regular tracks. It's the "D" trains (up to 250km/h). New PDL runs "G" trains (300km/h).
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:32 PM   #2737
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Should be regular tracks. It's the "D" trains (up to 250km/h). New PDL runs "G" trains (300km/h).
Alright, but not so long ago I've read here that D trains are moved to the new PDL as well, and I am not sure whether it has happened or was only a plan.

Anyway, after the first train stopped, why did not the train control system stop the following one?
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:36 PM   #2738
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Sorry, I'm confused: did it happen on the new PDL, or in the old regular tracks?
It happens at 200km/h upgraded conventional railway, regular tracks, and D3115 is a CRH1B

11 died and 89 wounded as of 23:00 PM
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:39 PM   #2739
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 06:43 PM   #2740
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It doesn't look like an upgraded old track. This viaduct is clearly part of the new line that opened just a couple of years ago. Maybe this segment has a max speed of 200km/h, but it's still a completely new track that is part of a high speed line.

And this is a huge blow for high speed rail in China, this will have major consequences for all the lines including the PDL lines. Safety must always be the #1 priority, this simply cannot happen again.


Hopefully the number of casualties is limited.
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