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Old August 3rd, 2011, 01:11 PM   #2961
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Some updated and older pictures from the Shijiazhuang-Wuhan PDL, currently laying tracks preparing for a 2012 opening date.

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Old August 3rd, 2011, 07:06 PM   #2962
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The party wants control, but not at the expense of business, so they will continue to tightly control state media while give private companies a little slack.



I believe there is an actual directive send out but probably not an strict ban on everything, news portals such as Sina knows how to find the compromise with the government, as part of it they took down the accident special report banner from its front page (the page is still easily accessible).
I would agree with you that there might very well be a directive (still yet to be confirmed) sent out on this. However, for peopel who don't know China that well, that is not at all the same as a crack down. There are directives being sent out every day and possibly on almost everything in China and most of them are being ignored or better selectively followed. A crack down is a totally different thing. Trust me, the government can shut down things very tight if they decided to do so, and that will be a crack down.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 07:18 PM   #2963
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why the chinese HSR use many viaducts???
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 07:21 PM   #2964
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why the chinese HSR use many viaducts???
Did you not see the marshiness of the terrain there? With such incredibly varied topography, China is like Heaven for any civil engineer!
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 09:08 PM   #2965
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why the chinese HSR use many viaducts???
Most of the newly constructed HSR lines are over 80% viaduct and tunnel. The heavy use of viaduct is due to a combination of reasons, such as easy grade separation, pedestrian, animal and vehicle crossing, overcome difficult terrain, and reduce land acquisition cost.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 11:04 PM   #2966
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Hainan West Ring HSR approved and construction will start later this year. Length 344km, 13 stations, design speed is the same as East Ring at 250km/h, investment 27.1B RMB. Target completion 2015. One interest observation is that this is the only major rail project approved this year. On May 10th, MOR submitted the proposed status updates of 31 prospective projects to National Development and Reform Commission, the update requested that five projects to be retained, and Hainan West Ring is one of them.

海南西环铁路是今年来国家批准的唯一铁路项目

发布时间:2011-7-28 0:55:31 | 来源:国际旅游岛商报 | 作者:陈敬儒

商报讯(记者 陈敬儒 实习生 郑淑琪)昨天,商报记者从省有关方面获悉,日前,新建海南西环铁路可行性研究报告正式获国家发改委批复。这是今年以来国家批准的唯一铁路项目,建设标准与东环高铁一致。
新建海南西环铁路项目总投资271亿元,其中工程投资255.4亿元,机车车辆购置费15.6亿元。资金来源为:项目资本金占50%,为135.5亿元,其中铁道部承担资本金的70%,使用铁路建设基金和企业自有资金安排94.85亿元;海南省承担资本金的30%,由省财政资金出资安排40.65亿元。资本金以外的资金利用国内银行贷款解决。各出资方向海南东环铁路公司增资扩股,由该公司作为项目法人,负责本项目建设和经营管理。
新建西环铁路线路自海口站引出,沿西环高速公路经老城站、临高站、新盈站、洋浦站、棋子湾站、东方站、板桥站、尖峰站、九所站、崖城站、凤凰机场站至三亚站,正线全长344公里。线路等级为国铁Ⅰ级,与东环建设标准相同。正线数目为双线。规划输送能力为货运1000万吨/年,客运5000万人/年。建设工期为4年。
  据介绍,西环铁建成后,将与东环铁形成环岛高铁,共设28个站点,覆盖全省12个市县,“后高铁效应”将有利于优化产业布局,带动县域经济协调发展。同时,高铁牵引动力为电力,没有废气排放,对海南建设生态省和节约型社会将发挥积极作用。
据了解,海南省委省政府主要领导多次就西环高铁与国家相关部委主要领导进行沟通协调,争取他们的理解和支持。海南省委、省政府的努力,得到了国家相关部委的充分认可和大力支持。5月10日,铁道部向国家发改委报送了对全国31个在办项目的梳理意见,共保留了5个项目,海南西环高铁列为保留的第一个项目。7月6日下午,国家发改委主任会议通过了西环高铁可研报告,这是今年到目前为止国家批准的唯一铁路项目。

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Old August 4th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #2967
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Some updated and older pictures from the Shijiazhuang-Wuhan PDL, currently laying tracks preparing for a 2012 opening date.

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Beautiful pictures, but please resize them... they don't fit on my screen and loading takes ages over a mobile data connection.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 07:57 PM   #2968
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CSR delays shareholder meeting, cites effect of accident
2011-08-04 13:42
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BEIJING - China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock Corp Ltd (CSR) said on Wednesday that it postponed a shareholder vote on an 11 billion yuan ($1.7 billion) fundraising plan, a move meant to give investors time to assess the effect of last month's fatal train crash.

CSR said in a statement it would defer the shareholder meeting, originally scheduled for Friday, until Sept 29 "because of the recent train crash and the negative effect from US Treasuries" as concerns about the US debt situation persist.

The company plans to provide further information to investors before the meeting, it said in the statement.

It intends to sell up to 1.83 billion shares at 6.02 yuan each to investors including the National Social Security Fund, with the proceeds to be used to build rolling stock for the country's high-speed railway network.

Analysts said the delay was intended to ease investors' concern that the accident might trigger a substantial slowdown in investment in China's ambitious railway construction program.

Shares of Shanghai-listed CSR fell 0.9 percent to 5.44 yuan on Wednesday.

The shares have fallen about 19 percent since the crash in East China on July 23.

The two trains involved in the accident were produced by CSR and its partners, Bombardier Inc and Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd.

Shenyin & Wangguo Securities Co Ltd last Monday downgraded their ratings for CSR to "neutral" from "recommend".

But China Galaxy Securities Co Ltd and China Fortune Securities Co Ltd last Thursday released reports with "recommend" ratings for CSR, saying recent contracts will guarantee the company's long-term prospects.

CSR said in a statement last Thursday that it signed contracts worth 6.89 billion yuan to build subway and passenger rail cars. It didn't disclose the customers.

Zhao Xiaochuang, an analyst with Century Securities Co Ltd, said that since CSR has stable contracts, and the share price is fairly low, the company still has long-term growth potential.

However, industry experts warned that the latest crash threatens to undermine the country's plan to export high-speed train technology.

Yang Hao, a professor in transportation with Beijing Jiaotong University, said Chinese rail exports would be affected as overseas clients might be doubtful about the quality and safety of the equipment.

CSR signed an agreement with General Electric Co in December to establish a 50-50 joint venture to manufacture high-speed trains in the United States, using China's technology, and to jointly explore the US high-speed railway market.

China has signed agreements for bilateral cooperation on railways with more than 30 countries since 2003, including the United States, Russia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Poland and India.

The country has adjusted its railway investments since the former minister of railways, Liu Zhijun, was removed from his position in a graft probe.

The Ministry of Railways announced in May that rail infrastructure investment would touch 600 billion yuan this year, down 100 billion yuan from earlier estimates.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #2969
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This sentence is flaming at best, more like trolling.
What? The Minister of Railways himself said that the train construction contracts for the domestically developed trains specified maximum speeds of 300kmh, that they had misstated the maximum possible speed to keep up in prestige with foreign HSR rivals.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 11:50 PM   #2970
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What? The Minister of Railways himself said that the train construction contracts for the domestically developed trains specified maximum speeds of 300kmh, that they had misstated the maximum possible speed to keep up in prestige with foreign HSR rivals.
Sheng Guangzu never said anything about the domestically developed trains are not designed for 350/380km/h operation, the fact that several lines still run 350km/h trains proves that. I see where you got that from though, that must be from a former engineer named Zhou Yimin, who left the ministry more than 10 years ago, and was never involved in China's current HSR planning. His original allegation is that China's contract with Siemens and Kawasaki were to buy kits and production licenses for trains with a 300km/h max speed, which is false itself because they only sold 250km/h trains, not 300km/h. That's the contract for the original D trains which only ran on 250km/h PDLs, not the likes of CRH380A. His other famous quotes including HSR going too fast will cause sonic boom, Beijing-Tianjin ICL observed 0.4m track sink, CRH5 is German, CRH380A can only sustain 350km/h momentarily, California has already signed contract with CSR to supply trains, etc.

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Sheng Guangzu, April 12th 2011. Couple of days before the announcement in Peoples Daily that it was due to economic reasons.
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Old August 5th, 2011, 04:42 AM   #2972
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Sheng Guangzu, April 12th 2011. Couple of days before the announcement in Peoples Daily that it was due to economic reasons.
No he did not say that during his interview on April 12th. Please provide reference, otherwise it's just your opinion.
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Old August 5th, 2011, 08:45 AM   #2973
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I just took a Beijing-Tianjin ICL train that was going at 335 km/h, didn't seem like there was any problem to me
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I just took a Beijing-Tianjin ICL train that was going at 335 km/h, didn't seem like there was any problem to me
Beijing-Tianjin ICL and Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL have maintained their original schedule with 350km/h trains.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 04:12 AM   #2975
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Scores of people were killed by the recent crash of two high-speed trains near Wenzhou in Zhejiang province. Even before the accident, the intellectual property dispute between Japan and China over the technology used in China's new bullet trains was heated. Since the crash, it has come to a boil.

Japan, of course, was the first country to build "bullet" trains, and their safety record is enviable. The Shinkansen "super bullet" train, which was directly affected by Japan's devastating March earthquake, was able to resume services in April.

Since it began operating between Tokyo and Shin-Osaka in 1964, the Shinkansen has been a vital transport artery in Japan, and has suffered no fatal accidents. Let me repeat: not a single person has died in a Shinkansen accident.

Despite its technological lead and enviable record, Shinkansen trains were not exported overseas for decades. The first such technology transfer was the Taiwan High Speed Rail, which began operating in January 2007. As a result of a renewed emphasis on safety following an earthquake, the Taiwanese authorities decided to use Japanese technology for the rolling stock and a mixture of German and French technology for other facilities and operations.

Today, the great stage for the Shinkansen is China's vast territory. On June 30, the Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway began operating. The rolling stock for China's CRH380A bullet train is based on technology from Kawasaki Heavy Industries, whereas the German company Siemens provided the technology for the CRH380B.

One reason Japan hesitated to export its high-speed rail technology was revealed by a JR Central Japan Railway official, who wanted to make its provision conditional upon the "country being politically stable and governed by the rule of law", and highlighted the importance of compliance with enforceable contracts that would guarantee intellectual property rights.

With these reservations in mind, JR East proceeded with the export of Shinkansen technology to China. Unfortunately, those fears have been vindicated. Immediately before the Beijing-Shanghai railway was built, the Chinese Ministry of Railways initiated international patent claims over the technology used in the CRH380A. It is believed that China has now filed for 21 patents under the Patent Co-operation Treaty.

Since 2003, China has filed for 1,902 patents related to high-speed railways. But the 21 recent applications are the first based on Japanese Shinkansen technology.

The content of the patent application will not become clear until the 18 months required for investigation has elapsed. But there is a strong view that the technology under application is an extension of that provided by either Japan or Germany, and the case could lead to a major IP dispute.

Infringement of intellectual property rights by China is one of the most vexing aspects of trade with the Chinese.

The market for Shinkansen technology is growing not only in China, but also in the United States and in emerging-market countries such as Brazil. With demand extremely large, international competition to build high-speed railway networks is becoming intense. And this competition concerns not only technology and speed, but also safety.

So long as protection of intellectual property rights in China is woefully inadequate, the high-speed rail market is likely to remain racked with heated disputes.

In China, the rush to apply for patents is sometimes said to be about saving face with ordinary Chinese, who might well object to buying technology from abroad when China's government so often lauds home-grown technology. But China will lose even more face if it is shown to have pirated the Shinkansen technology that it now claims as its own.

Yuriko Koike, Japan’s former Minister of Defense and National Security Adviser, is Chairman of the Executive Council of the Liberal Democratic Party.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 07:19 AM   #2976
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Guangzhou-Shenzhen CRH line test run

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Beijing South Railway Station is too small.

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Beijing-Tianjin ICL and Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL have maintained their original schedule with 350km/h trains.
Actually the top speed of BJ-TJ ICL is supposed to be 330km/h, they went over by a tiny bit though
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