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Old April 26th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #281
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This flash shows the routes that are above 200 KPH after this speed up.

http://news.sina.com.cn/pc/2007-04-16/326/172.html
I finally found a chinese friend who helped me with the language. He disagreed that this was the routes above 200 km/h on April 18th. It appears to include all the routes which been speeded up since 1996 and not all of them are planned for 200+ km/h and many which are planned for 200/250/300 km/h will not have the speed increased until 2010.

For example, we could not determine if the line from Jinan to Nanjing has even been electrified yet.
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Old April 27th, 2007, 01:51 AM   #282
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Old April 27th, 2007, 02:35 AM   #283
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Nanjing Raiwaystation



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Old April 27th, 2007, 08:02 PM   #284
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Is China officially in HSR era now?

Do you think China now officially qualifies as a nation with high speed railways? it confuses me for several reasons.You can argue it is operating HSR because the Shinkansen train and the Bombardier train China purchased can run at 200 km/h+, the newer type of Shinkansen and the ICE3 that are going to be introduced this summer could possibly reach 300km/h+. Also a separate brand (CRH) has been created to differentiate the high speed service with the regular service. On the other hand they all run on conventional tracks no dedicated HSR tracks have been built, also China does not make its own high speed trains for commercial use though experimental prototype that could reach 250km/h has been produced as early as 2003...
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Old April 27th, 2007, 08:28 PM   #285
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For example, we could not determine if the line from Jinan to Nanjing has even been electrified yet.
It has been confirmed that the entire route from Shanghai to Beijing is electrified
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Old April 27th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #286
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Absolutely!

The Quinshen Dedicated Passeneger Line (DPL) opened in 2003 with trains operating at 200 km/h. This is a 404 km section of the the Beijing - Shenyang route via Qinhuangdao. In 2005 the speed limit was raised to 250 km/h and soon it expected to raise again to 300 km/h.

I believe that this is first section dedicated passeneger railway in China, but it was not the first section to operate at 200 km/h. The Guangshen railway was testing Swedish X2000 trains in commercial operation in 1999 between Guangzhou and Shenzen in south China.

On April 18th this year between 800 and 1000 km had been upgraded for operation at 250 km/h and more will follow rapidly.

To put this in context, in 1996 China introduced three "proof of concept" trains which operated from Beijing to Shanghai and Shenyang at 140 km/h. In 1998 about 450 km were authorized for operation at 160 km/h. The technology surge over the last 10 years on the Chinese railways is extraordinary!
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Old April 27th, 2007, 09:18 PM   #287
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OOOPS!

DPL should be PDL (Passenger Dedicated Line) source:Wikipedia
sometimes refered to as "special passenger railway" source: press releases
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Old April 27th, 2007, 09:53 PM   #288
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HSR = 250 km/h. The answer is YES.
China is the only one country in the world to use Transrapid for commercial transportation.
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Old April 27th, 2007, 10:20 PM   #289
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Well if you're going to be picky, you can argue that Transrapid is not actually high speed rail.

But in any case ...
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The Quinshen Dedicated Passeneger Line (DPL) opened in 2003 with trains operating at 200 km/h. This is a 404 km section of the the Beijing - Shenyang route via Qinhuangdao. In 2005 the speed limit was raised to 250 km/h and soon it expected to raise again to 300 km/h.
This surely is enough to qualify China as being in the list of countries with high speed rail.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 09:45 AM   #290
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Most Certainly.


China became a country with one of the most highspeed trains in a very short time. I believe it will also be very exciting in the future because China is the only nation in the world that has German, Italian, Japanese, Canadian,Swedish, Chinese and possibly even French trains running on its tracks. I can't wait to see the day when different bullet trains sits on the same station it will be a very cool sight.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 09:51 AM   #291
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It has been confirmed that the entire route from Shanghai to Beijing is electrified
Of course it will you wouldn't expect them to go back steam now did you?
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Old April 28th, 2007, 10:06 AM   #292
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for the population density china has at the east coast, high speed rail is the ideal solution. If you make it fast enough, you can save a lot of Co2 emmission, that would have been made by domestic flights.

I heard that they built a new Factory near Bejing for the new type of guidway, thats necessary for trains to travel above 300 km/h...

Does someone have pics of that guidway already?
It must look something like the new high speed line between munich and nuremburg, because they purchased the necessary patents from the firm who built that one...

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Old April 28th, 2007, 11:03 AM   #293
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CRH2 (China Railway Highspeed 2) Video!

I believe this is one of the most complete video clip shows the various types of passenger trains running on China's railroad, including CRH2, this line is in between Nanjing - Shanghai - Hangzhou - Ningbo.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/dZAgPdZZoI0/
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Old April 28th, 2007, 11:29 AM   #294
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Nanjing Raiwaystation
Love the station, been there several times and it looks a lot better when it's docked by CRHs. The high platforms are specially design for those modern EMUs. The pics remind me JR stations, like in a sci fi movie.
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Old April 28th, 2007, 11:53 AM   #295
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good job ~but which is crh2
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Old April 28th, 2007, 12:13 PM   #296
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nice station, nice trains

BUT WHY IS IT SO DAMNED DIRTY?

I mean, you cant even see the top of the former white columns and girders, becauses they are completely black because of dirt...

Chinese Rail should be able to afford a cleaning team taking care of that...
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Old April 29th, 2007, 09:01 AM   #297
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good job ~but which is crh2
The first train is CRH2 and at 2:28 thats CRH2 as well.

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Old April 29th, 2007, 09:10 AM   #298
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WOW I saw the CRH3 in there, the ICE train from Germany!
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Old April 29th, 2007, 12:39 PM   #299
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Don't really what are you talking about
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Old April 29th, 2007, 12:49 PM   #300
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Nice video of trains after the 6th speed boost. We can see DF11, DF11G, SS9 CRH2 and CRH3, all traveling according to the new schedule. 100mph speed becomes common place.
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