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Old October 11th, 2011, 10:15 AM   #3161
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Nanjing South - Panorama---------> scroll
Where are all the people? That's a lot of flooring for the janitors to wax...
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Old October 12th, 2011, 10:21 PM   #3162
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Where are all the people? That's a lot of flooring for the janitors to wax...
I see tons of people near the benches.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 04:03 AM   #3163
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Good and bad news, to make sure it shifts the Government will be selling the next round of Rail bonds with a 50% tax deduction on interest payments. The bad news is the workers of two of the main rail contractors havent been paid in two months, the Government is $5bn in arrears with them. The Ministry of Railways is struggling to meet the interest payments on its existing debt which is soaking up more and more of the money that was to be invested in infrastructure.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 06:51 AM   #3164
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This sounds like a rumor to me. Why? I don't believe Chinese government has any problem related to money.

However, if this is true this is more like the government is punishing the ministry and there are alternative motives, political games going on behind the scenes.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 02:17 PM   #3165
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Where are all the people? That's a lot of flooring for the janitors to wax...
This pic was taken from south entrance which is not yet ready.. that is from 26th platform towards 1st platform side. Only North entrance is opened.. so it looks empty in the pic.

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I see tons of people near the benches.
yes, though it was not peak hour
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Old October 14th, 2011, 03:08 AM   #3166
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Here is the high speed rail from Hangzhou to Shanghai, I believe it went 350 km/h at this time...I took this in March. Enjoy

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Old October 14th, 2011, 07:32 AM   #3167
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Nice!
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Old October 14th, 2011, 08:28 AM   #3168
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Thanks, very interesting video. I'll most probably have a chance to use Hangzhou-Shanghai line next year. I think it was mentioned that the 350km/h speed was not reduced on this line? Is this still the case?
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Old October 17th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #3169
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AFAIK they all had been slowed down, finally even Beijing-Tianjin and Hangzhou-Shanghai both had "survived" first round of slow-downs. Prices had been cut as well. On BJ-TJ the whole 3rmb for second class. Travel time increased by about 5 min.
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Old October 18th, 2011, 04:14 AM   #3170
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AFAIK they all had been slowed down, finally even Beijing-Tianjin and Hangzhou-Shanghai both had "survived" first round of slow-downs. Prices had been cut as well. On BJ-TJ the whole 3rmb for second class. Travel time increased by about 5 min.
We had six rounds of speed-ups. We must have six rounds of slow-downs, at least. Thanks Mr. Sheng Guangzu.
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Old October 18th, 2011, 08:56 AM   #3171
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any news on Beijing-Wuhan high speed rail opening date?
Or Harbin-Dalian?
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Old October 18th, 2011, 09:01 AM   #3172
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Are these trains temporary and shall end after holidays, or was it an occasion to introduce new completed trains which remain in service after holidays?
Now that the golden week is over a week past, did the train frequency go back to previous or have more trains been taken into use permanently?
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Old October 18th, 2011, 09:08 AM   #3173
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any news on Beijing-Wuhan high speed rail opening date?
Or the opening date for Harbin-Dalian?
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Old October 18th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #3174
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Or the opening date for Harbin-Dalian?
According to official reports all major systems are completed and the line is currently undergoing final equipment install and station decoration. Rumor is that it will open within the year. http://www.gov.cn/gzdt/2011-09/25/content_1956073.htm
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Old October 19th, 2011, 06:28 AM   #3175
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Lack of cash brings rail projects to a standstill

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Many migrant workers on China's new rail projects have not been paid for months, due to a shortage of funds caused by the country's tightened policies on loans, and many are without a job as projects come to a halt.
The situation affects millions of migrant workers hired to lay new track, say experts, who also warn that the country's new roads are facing similar financial problems. "An estimated 6 million migrant workers are employed by rail projects nationwide. If the projects cannot resume soon, these people and their families will all suffer," said Wang Mengshu, deputy chief engineer at China Railway Tunnel Group.

According to Wang, rail projects spanning a total of more than 10,000 kilometers, including 5,400 km of tunnels, have been suspended due to a shortage of funds and many migrant workers have not been paid for six months. The rail construction companies also owe big sums of money to cement and steel suppliers, he added. "The central government should make investments, pay the workers and suppliers, and complete the ongoing projects," Wang said. Both the Ministry of Railways and China Railway Group declined to comment when contacted by China Daily on Tuesday.

Wang said one of the reasons for the halting of rail projects is that the central government has tightened its monetary stance to curb soaring inflation. China has raised the reserve requirement ratio for banks nine times this year and hiked interest rates five times to check excessive lending. Also, doubts about high-speed railway technologies and management in the wake of a deadly bullet train crash in July have resulted in banks taking a more cautious attitude, Wang said. "The general environment for the high-speed railway industry is not good," said a source with China Railway First Group, a railway construction company. "With money from the stimulus plan worth 4 trillion yuan ($627 billion) drying up this year and its difficulty in securing bank loans, the rail sector is facing a capital chain rupture," said Zhao Jian, a professor of transport at Beijing Jiaotong University.

In a bid to help the crippled sector, authorities have agreed to take steps to secure financial support for major cash-strapped railway projects, Xinhua News Agency reported. The Ministry of Finance instituted a policy earlier this month to halve the tax on the interest earnings of bonds issued by the Ministry of Railways between the 2011-2013 period, in a bid to make the bonds more attractive.

The shortage of funds is also affecting the construction of new roads, the Ministry of Transport said in a report on Monday. "Some provinces have had no money to pay construction companies for two to three months, and a few projects are completely or partly suspended," the report said, adding that as a result, 20 percent of the work planned for this year may not be completed on time. The ministry forecast that the funds shortage could get worse in the fourth quarter this year, adding that it will try to secure funds for some projects and suspend others. The China Banking Regulatory Commission warned banks in late July of the risks associated with loans to the railway and road sectors.

According to plans, China aims to expand the national high-speed railway network from 91,000 km in 2010 to 120,000 km by 2015, and the expressway network from 74,100 km in 2010 to 108,000 km by 2015.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #3176
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I hope this doesn't affect the scheduled opening of Nanjing-Hangzhou line. I don't think they've finished stringing the wire yet.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 04:55 AM   #3177
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This may be a "counter strategy" from railway ministry. They simply saying "we create jobs."
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Old October 20th, 2011, 11:36 PM   #3178
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Yeah whenever the jobs topic get brought onto the table the State Council will panic, and start injecting cash into the industry. The Chinese government is extremely sensitive to unemployment, when the government bailed out those major banks several years ago one of the fear is that inaction will cause the banks to halt lending due to high bad debt ratio, thus halt job growth. Right now the situation is a little different since they are trying to slow down the economy, therefore MOR's tactic won't be as effective, but will probably still work to an extend.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 03:05 PM   #3179
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Tianjin West Railway Station

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Old October 23rd, 2011, 08:32 AM   #3180
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Magnificent. It looks like a render.
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