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Old April 29th, 2007, 01:09 PM   #301
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I am talking about the dirt that is lying on top of the white girders.
It should be possible to clean them once a year...but as it looks, the havent been cleaned for as long as the station exists.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 01:29 PM   #302
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I don't think this video has an CRH3 train in it.
2:28 is definitely a CRH2
about 3:30 is a train which is not a CRH2 but I don't think it is a CRH3. the CRH3 is not supposed to be schedule for service until late this year or even next year.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 03:08 PM   #303
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I know they look and are old and blah blah blah, but i want my old train carriages back!!!! oh, how they bring back the memorys, i think they are not just trains but rather something embedded into the modern chinese culture.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 06:02 PM   #304
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Are any of the new high-speed trains sleeper trains? The reason I ask is because with the distances in China, even using the fastest high speed trains (i.e. 300kmh), journeys could still take many hours. Since the speeds aren't at that level yet, with new trains 'only' going 200kmh, I can imagine such long journeys would be quite uncomfortable if you're stuck in a seat. I've had to endure a 10 hour journey on a packed train in hard seat class, and it's not pleasent! I know the seats on new trains will probably be much more comfortable than that, but still...
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Old April 29th, 2007, 06:14 PM   #305
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The current speed increase appears to be focused shorter distance "intercity" trains with the Beijing - Shenyang being the longest so far. I believe that plan is to reduce the journey time between the major cities to less than 10 hours but we will have to wait and see.
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Old April 29th, 2007, 09:26 PM   #306
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A while back (2002 I think), they built an EMU unit that is close in appearance to the ICE3 but using local technology. I think it's not the actual ICE3.
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Old April 30th, 2007, 12:45 AM   #307
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the video is actually took about one month before the 6th speek boost, so the CRH is on the quasi-running time, after 4.18, I believe there are more CRH on the track. On this line, Nanjin - Shanghai - Hangzhou - Ningbo, I think it is CRH2, so all the CRH appear on this video is CRH2.
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Old April 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM   #308
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I don't think this video has an CRH3 train in it.
2:28 is definitely a CRH2
about 3:30 is a train which is not a CRH2 but I don't think it is a CRH3. the CRH3 is not supposed to be schedule for service until late this year or even next year.
It's CRH3 on test runs, there are no CRH3s on regular schedule, only CRH1, 2 and 5.

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Old April 30th, 2007, 10:51 AM   #309
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I am talking about the dirt that is lying on top of the white girders.
It should be possible to clean them once a year...but as it looks, the havent been cleaned for as long as the station exists.
I see, but I don't think that's just dirt though, it seems to be just like that when the station first opened. The station is only a year and half old.
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Old April 30th, 2007, 11:51 AM   #310
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Does anyone know of the ICE3 train China is getting the Tilt kind?
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Old April 30th, 2007, 01:26 PM   #311
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nice station, nice trains

BUT WHY IS IT SO DAMNED DIRTY?

I mean, you cant even see the top of the former white columns and girders, becauses they are completely black because of dirt...

Chinese Rail should be able to afford a cleaning team taking care of that...
Because there are still many Diesel locomotives going through the station,like DF8B,DF11,DF11G...


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Old April 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM   #312
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Another picture

Thanks to the photographers
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Old April 30th, 2007, 01:46 PM   #313
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Just 10 years, train speeds rised from 40km/h to 300km/h for SIX TIMES!
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Old April 30th, 2007, 01:48 PM   #314
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There are no CRH3.
The first CRH3 will enter service in 1st season of 2008 or later.
CRH3 is based on Velaro platform ,no tilt kind

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Old April 30th, 2007, 02:00 PM   #315
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At 3:30,this train really looks like a Ice3,but it is not.It is Changbai Mountain,which is built by Changchun Railway Vehicles Co.,Ltd.
here are some pics






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Old April 30th, 2007, 04:07 PM   #316
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I thought it was 200km/h
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Old April 30th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #317
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more like 60km/h to 250 km/h in the ten year period
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Old April 30th, 2007, 10:46 PM   #318
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Thank you "clkgtr". Great pictures. I am glad to know that there was an alternative to the ICE3.

Do have you have any more details on the "Changbai Mountain" trainset?

For example:
Maximum Operating Speed?
On which route is it deployed?
When did it first operate?
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Old May 1st, 2007, 07:34 AM   #319
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Thank you "clkgtr". Great pictures. I am glad to know that there was an alternative to the ICE3.

Do have you have any more details on the "Changbai Mountain" trainset?

For example:
Maximum Operating Speed?
On which route is it deployed?
When did it first operate?
Hi,I get some info about this train,some tech data
This trainset is a distributed-powered EMU with 6M3T.
voltage:25kV/50Hz
tranction power:265*24=6360kw
weight(empty):53t(M),52.5t(T)
capacity:650
Max.Speed:210km/h
Max. test speed:230km/h
built:2004
test year:2005

After 4.18,2007 it is used between Shenyang and Dalian(First enter service)
here is a schedule
Train No. Depart station Depart time Arrive time Duration
T540 Shenyang 7:30 10:55 03h25min
T542 North Shenyang 7:35 11:03 03h28min
T544 Shenyang 15:30 18:55 03h25min
T546 North Shenyang 15:35 19:03 03h28min

Because of some reason,there is only one Changbai Mountain trainset,it is considered as a test train.

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Old May 1st, 2007, 03:57 PM   #320
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Thank you "clkgtr". Very useful data!
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