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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:44 PM   #3461
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I'm surprised by that too, but 48 hours of run time is not the constrain, the 4000km limit is. For the Wuhan-Guangzhou line that means each train will only run two round trips between full inspections, their total run time is only 16 hours. That's why a lot of trainsets get checked daily.
Wuhan-Guangzhou South is 968 km. So a return trip is 1936 km, and 2 return trips can be done.

However, since Wuhan-Futian is 1070 km, a return tip is 2140 km, and 2 return trips are impossible....
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Old February 1st, 2012, 11:41 PM   #3462
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Note this maintenance yard is near Guangzhou South, so when they talked about two round trips it was specifically in the context of Wuhan-Guangzhou HSR, not all trains continue to Shenzhen Futian, and Guangzhou-Shenzhen HSR was not discussed.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 02:48 AM   #3463
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Guangzhou South Railway Station

source: wanghongliu panoramio account

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/65901101



http://www.panoramio.com/photo/65900848



http://www.panoramio.com/photo/65901101

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Old February 2nd, 2012, 03:16 AM   #3464
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That station is beautiful.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 03:34 AM   #3465
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Yeah.. this is my favorite, too. It looks even better from outside.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:59 AM   #3466
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Wow, gorgeous. I'll have to check it out next time.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 02:05 PM   #3467
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If there was a "full-blown" derailment (like natural jackknifing), then I would agree, it wouldn't make much of a difference. However, in most derailment cases, the train usually remains mostly on the track due to inertia, with minimal lateral shifting. The design of the station, specifically, the row of pillars between the tracks in the foreground and those in the background, substantially lower the margin for error, and hence, greatly reduce the margin of safety.

Placing load-bearing pylons within two meters of a moving train... all that train has to do is to tip over by a few degrees and it's game over.

@Huhu: See below picture. The pylons in question are circled in red. Note (the blue line) that they are very close to the tracks since they also serve as catenary poles.

@AlexNL, I disagree that Eschede would have been better if the ICE used articulated carriages. Looking at the wreck, cars 1-3 stayed relatively upright even though they used normal carriages. The rest of the train knocked over and plowed into a 300 tonne bridge. Eschede was the worst-case scenario.
Does that mean many stations need to be rebuilt so as to remove this potential problem?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 02:31 PM   #3468
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Guangzhou South Railway Station
As gorgeous as Tianjin West
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:45 PM   #3469
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However, since Wuhan-Futian is 1070 km, a return tip is 2140 km, and 2 return trips are impossible....
Sorry - Longhua of course!
Nevertheless, that line shall open sometime in March 2011:
http://szdaily.sznews.com/html/2012-...nt_1914373.htm
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THE Guangzhou-Shenzhen high-speed rail will be connected with the Wuhan-Guangzhou section in March, cutting the travel time between Shenzhen and Wuhan to less than four hours, according to a meeting of Shenzhen rail construction office.
Observe that the fastest trains Guangzhou South-Wuhan have been 3:33 ever since First Slowdown Campaign.
The fastest trains Longhua-Guangzhou South are 0:36.
Thus, taken together would take 4:09+stop time in Guangzhou South (probably 2 minutes).
Yet as we see the travel time between Longhua and Wuhan shall be less than 4:00 - at least 12 minutes faster than the existing trains.

What shall be the train schedule Longhua-Wuhan, and Guangzhou South-Wuhan, when in March 2011 Longhua-Wuhan trains start?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:55 PM   #3470
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As gorgeous as Tianjin West
At first I almost thought that's a rendering!
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 07:51 PM   #3471
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These two pics were from my stolen iPhone 4S:





The first pic was taken @ 2012-01-16 03:33, second @ 2012-01-14 02:43.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 07:53 PM   #3472
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What a great looking railway station for Guangzhou.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 07:56 PM   #3473
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What a great looking railway station for Guangzhou.
We're talking about Tianjin West, not Guangzhou South.

The two pics in conc.man's earlier post were not the same station. The first one was Guangzhou South, but the second one was Tianjin West.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 05:16 AM   #3474
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they look similar though, esp the arc section.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 10:00 AM   #3475
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We're talking about Tianjin West, not Guangzhou South.

The two pics in conc.man's earlier post were not the same station. The first one was Guangzhou South, but the second one was Tianjin West.
I looked at the sign and quickly realized it didn't have the inverted "L" for Guang. Is Tianjin west the terminus for the Beijing-Tianjin High Speed Railway?

btw, I love the videos below:




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Old February 3rd, 2012, 10:49 AM   #3476
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These two pics were from my stolen iPhone 4S:
The first pic was taken @ 2012-01-16 03:33, second @ 2012-01-14 02:43.
Ouch, did you try "Find my iphone?" At least remote wipe your data. I have to say although the 4S' F2.4 lens is better, it's still can't match even a cheap point and shoot for still shots, video is amazing though. Now Tianjin West is my favorite station (previous Nanjing South).
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 01:54 PM   #3477
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Ouch, did you try "Find my iphone?" At least remote wipe your data. I have to say although the 4S' F2.4 lens is better, it's still can't match even a cheap point and shoot for still shots, video is amazing though. Now Tianjin West is my favorite station (previous Nanjing South).
Yes. I've tried. I also called the police but they wanted me fill forms as thick as a brick. I told them the phone was brand new worths 35,000 rubles (It was in a metro station in St. Petersburg.) but they said they couldn't help. So I left the police station and followed Find My iPhone using another iPhone of mine. But the thief turned the phone off 10 minutes before my arrival. The good news is remote data wipe had been requested and executed.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 03:57 PM   #3478
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I looked at the sign and quickly realized it didn't have the inverted "L" for Guang. Is Tianjin west the terminus for the Beijing-Tianjin High Speed Railway?

btw, I love the videos below:




No, it is a terminus of the Beijing-Shanghai HSR though (some trains go from Beijing South-Shanghai Hongqiao, others go from Tianjin West-Shanghai Hongqiao). Tianjin Railway Station is the Tianjin terminus of the Beijing-Tianjin HSR. The Tianjin-Baoding HSR should start soon from Tianjin West. Beautiful station, but when I used it (a few days after Beijing-Shanghai HSR opened), there were a lot of construction problems: water leaking from the roof, escalators not working, and major parts unfinished. Hopefully they are fixed by now.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 02:15 AM   #3479
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Photo of Tianjin Station really looks like a render, inspiring.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 02:25 AM   #3480
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Yes. If you take a closer look at the people there, it do seem like a render. How many people are gonna were the same clothes?
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