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Old February 15th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #3521
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Old February 15th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #3522
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Old February 15th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #3523
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Old February 16th, 2012, 06:21 AM   #3524
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China's high-speed rail to surpass 10,000 km

Updated: 2012-02-16 10:59

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China will construct 6,366 kilometers of new railways in 2012, including 3,500 kilometers of high-speed lines, People's Daily reported on Thursday.

The year 2012 will be a historic year in China's railway history with the highest number of new lines scheduled to be constructed. Meanwhile, high-speed railway lines will surpass 10,000 kilometers.

Once the new high-speed line is put into service, the travel time from Beijing to Shenzhen in South China's Guandong province will be reduced to eight hours from the current fastest time of 23 hours.

Confronted with such a massive construction project, the railway ministry expressed its determination to guarantee the construction quality, saying they will solve any hidden quality issues before operation.

The railway ministry has also launched an overhaul over all projects under construction started since 2003.
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Old February 16th, 2012, 07:18 AM   #3525
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^ U mad, America?

Still, I must ask: what happened to the budget cuts to the MOR? And how has the debt been managed?
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Old February 16th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #3526
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China's high-speed rail to surpass 10,000 km

Updated: 2012-02-16 10:59

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3500 km high-speed lines.

Which ones?
Dalian-Shenyang-Harbin, July, 904 km
Beijing-Shijiazhuang, late 2012, 281 km
Wuhan-Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang, July, 840 km
Nanjing-Hangzhou, late 2012, 249 km
Hangzhou-Ningbo, June, 152 km
Wuhan-Yichang, June, 293 km
Hefei-Bengbu, August, 131 km.

That accounts for 2850 km.

What are the other 650 km?

Wuhan-Xianning?
Wuhan-Huangshi?
Xian-Baoji?
Panjing-Yingkou-Haicheng?
Chongqing-Lichuan?
Chongqing-Suining?
Nanjing-Anqing?
Beijing-Tangshan?
Tianjin-Baoding?
Qingdao-Rongcheng?
Jingyao-Chengdu-Leshan?
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Old February 16th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #3527
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MOR can build the tunnel between Tianjin West and Tianjin stations in a few years, but the Tianjin metro expansion, originally promised for 2007, shows no signs of nearing completion. Sigh, why can't the more useful projects get done faster...
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Central Government vs City Hall. Central Government wins everytime.
Situation with metro expansion in Tianjin is a disgrace!
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Old February 16th, 2012, 06:48 PM   #3528
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Situation with metro expansion in Tianjin is a disgrace!
I know this is for a different thread but doesn't the Tianjin metro only have 2 lines? I was surprised to see that when I saw a map since Tianjin is such a huge city and a port city at that.

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With this tunnel, a train from Jinan and Shanghai can go to Qinhuangdao and Shenyang directly, skip Beijing.
Having to go through Beijing seems like a long way out of the way to get to Qinhuangdao and Shenyang. I wonder if the Tianjin-Qinhuangdao line will be open to match this tunnel opening.

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Old February 16th, 2012, 07:29 PM   #3529
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I know this is for a different thread but doesn't the Tianjin metro only have 2 lines? I was surprised to see that when I saw a map since Tianjin is such a huge city and a port city at that.



Having to go through Beijing seems like a long way out of the way to get to Qinhuangdao and Shenyang. I wonder if the Tianjin-Qinhuangdao line will be open to match this tunnel opening.
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Tianjin-Qinhuangdao PDL is still under suspension due to violation of environmental regulations.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:15 AM   #3530
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Railway construction getting back on track

Perhaps a bit more information on future plans:

Last Updated: 2012-02-17
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Projects halted due to funding shortage will resume this year. With 3,500 kilometers of new high-speed railways expected to be put into use this year, the length of China's high-speed railways will exceed 10,000 kilometers, a senior railway official said. Insiders said the construction of high-speed railways, which was halted due to funding shortage, will resume this year.

Yang Zhongmin, director of the planning department of the Ministry of Railways, said that all four of the planned North-South rail arteries for China's high-speed rail system will be complete, according to People's Daily on Thursday. One of the four arteries, the Beijing-Shanghai line, opened in June. The others will connect Beijing and Guangzhou in South China, Beijing and Harbin in Northeast China, and cities on the southeast coast with high-speed railways. Though a section of rail between Xiamen and Shenzhen will not be finished this year, the four arteries will start operation and significantly cut travel time between major cities, Yang said. For instance, train travel from Beijing to Shenzhen will take eight hours instead of the current 24 hours, and trips from Beijing to Harbin will take only five hours instead of nine.

China's high-speed rail sector was hampered by a funding shortage last year, when money from the government's 4 trillion yuan ($635 billion) stimulus plan dried up and the government's tightened monetary policy, after which the ministry was unable to get bank loans. More than 10,000 kilometers of high-speed railway projects were halted. Wang Mengshu, a leading rail tunnel expert, said on Thursday that railway construction is expected to resume this year. Wang, deputy chief engineer at China Railway Tunnel Group, told China Daily, citing a recent railway working conference, that the work on 6,000 kilometers of halted railway projects will resume this year and funds will be allocated gradually. "The ministry will also begin nine new railway projects this year, but none of them are high-speed railways," he said.

An article posted on Feb 8 on the website of the Chongqing development and reform commission, a branch of China's top economic planner, supports Wang's statement. According to the article, Lu Dongfu, deputy minister of railways, said at a meeting on Dec 30 that the ministry plans to spend 406 billion yuan on 249 infrastructure projects this year. The money will be used to complete 63 rail projects, continue work on 177 others and begin nine new ones. Besides, the ministry would like to begin 53 other projects this year.

But Yang Hao, a railway professor at Beijing Jiaotong University, said that the 53 projects would need the approval of the National Development and Reform Commission before ground could be broken on them. The ministry has stressed that the plan for infrastructure spending is "subject to changes", and experts believe that funding is the crucial factor that could determine whether the full plan is carried out.

Zhao Jian, another railway professor at Beijing Jiaotong University, said it remains unclear how the ministry will pull together 400 billion yuan because it has clear access to only 80 billion yuan from the railway construction fund and other sources. "And even the 80 billion yuan is not enough to pay off the interest generated by the 2 trillion yuan debt the ministry owes," he said.
China has planned to build a railway network of 120,000 kilometers by 2015, including at least 16,000 kilometers of high-speed railways.

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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:51 AM   #3531
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good chart. By the end of 2012, the backbone of eastern/central China HSR will be completed (except Shenzhen-Xiamen section). Hope western China HSR s (esp Shanghai-Chongqing) could keep up with the construction speed.

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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:54 AM   #3532
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HSR running in the snow

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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:37 AM   #3533
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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #3534
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It's interesting that they mentioned none of the nine new projects will be HSR, but Hainan West Ring was approved by NDRC last year already and can start any time.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:54 PM   #3535
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What is the current condition of the Beijing-Shenyang line depicted?
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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #3536
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good chart. By the end of 2012, the backbone of eastern/central China HSR will be completed (except Shenzhen-Xiamen section). Hope western China HSR s (esp Shanghai-Chongqing) could keep up with the construction speed.
Is it true Shanghai-Chongqing will not be 300 or 350 km/h design speed?
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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #3537
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Is it true Shanghai-Chongqing will not be 300 or 350 km/h design speed?
That is true:
Nanjing-Hefei, open since April 2008, design speed 250 km/h
Hefei-Wuhan, open since April 2009, design speed 250 km/h
Wuhan-Yichang, not completed
Yichang-Lichuan-Wanzhou, open since December 2010, design speed 200 km/h
Lichuan-Chongqing, not completed
Chongqing-Suining, not completed
Dezhou-Suining-Chengdu, open since June 2009, design speed 200 km/h.

When shall Lichuan-Chongqing railway be opened?
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Old February 18th, 2012, 02:05 AM   #3538
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What is the current condition of the Beijing-Shenyang line depicted?
The direct Beijing-Chengde-Shenyang line is "suspended pending further study".

HSR now exists on Beijing-Tianjin and Qinhuangdao-Shenyang. Tianjin-Qinhuangdao is under construction, though earlier it was "suspended" for environmental reasons.
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Old February 18th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #3539
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Shall high speed railways Wuhan-Zhengzhou and Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang be opened together or separately?
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Old February 19th, 2012, 06:46 AM   #3540
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Shall high speed railways Wuhan-Zhengzhou and Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang be opened together or separately?
Zhengzhou-Wuhan section will start trial next month, opening is set at July 1st. Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang section will open by the end of the month.
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