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Old February 29th, 2012, 02:02 AM   #3581
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Must recognize !!, China has done an impresive work on mass transport by HSL, I Think this country will be one of the most oil independent in terms of mass transport in the future. They produce their own electricity, the grade of electrificatión of the ralways are impresive too, and the plans confirms this for very next future. If the metro area transports sistems are planned as well as the HSL´s , no oil crisis will get you off the way, well done !! sincerely congrats !!
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Old February 29th, 2012, 04:30 AM   #3582
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Strange to see so many of the platforms empty?
Is Wuhan operating under capacity or something?


That photo was taken long time ago during the early days of its opening.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #3583
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China's railway ministry to launch $6.4 bln tenders

SHANGHAI | Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:25pm EST

SHANGHAI Feb 24 (Reuters) - China's Ministry of Railways will start a new round of tender offers this year for its high-speed railways that could be worth up to 40 billion yuan ($6.35 billion), the China Securities Journal reported on Friday, quoting industry sources.

The ministry also plans to procure 86 billion yuan worth of vehicles this year, the sources told the newspaper.

China CNR Corp and China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock Corp Ltd (CSR) , may be the main beneficiaries of the tender offer and could see the new orders impacting results in 2013 and beyond, the newspaper said. ($1 = 6.2985 yuan) (Reporting by Melanie Lee; Editing by Jonathan Hopfner)
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Old February 29th, 2012, 06:03 AM   #3584
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Strange to see so many of the platforms empty?
Is Wuhan operating under capacity or something?
There are separated waiting areas in all Chinese railway stations. The platforms are opened to passengers only about 10 minutes before train's departure. So the platforms look empty in most of time.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 06:15 AM   #3585
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There are separated waiting areas in all Chinese railway stations. The platforms are opened to passengers only about 10 minutes before train's departure. So the platforms look empty in most of time.
I think the intended meaning was why are there so few trains but so many platforms?
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Old February 29th, 2012, 07:13 AM   #3586
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This picture supposedly was near the opening, but I guess Chinese transport infrastructure will always have to appear over-dimensioned to contend with the New Year/Spring festival/Chunyun mayhem.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 07:14 AM   #3587
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Must recognize !!, China has done an impresive work on mass transport by HSL, I Think this country will be one of the most oil independent in terms of mass transport in the future. They produce their own electricity, the grade of electrificatión of the ralways are impresive too, and the plans confirms this for very next future. If the metro area transports sistems are planned as well as the HSL´s , no oil crisis will get you off the way, well done !! sincerely congrats !!
I agree, China has been doing a great job. When the world oil supply becomes scarce and prices for fuel oil are insanely expensive the Chinese will be zooming around the country at high speed. It seems like the U.S. politicians are just ******* around with us. As much as I love my country I am ashamed with what we're lacking over here. Congrats China, keep up the good work.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 02:26 PM   #3588
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Old February 29th, 2012, 03:01 PM   #3589
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I agree, China has been doing a great job. When the world oil supply becomes scarce and prices for fuel oil are insanely expensive the Chinese will be zooming around the country at high speed. It seems like the U.S. politicians are just ******* around with us. As much as I love my country I am ashamed with what we're lacking over here. Congrats China, keep up the good work.
That´s true, but I hope that due to the US technologial and economical level in the future the politicians will reallize that , the mass transport should relay on non oil dependent energy source. Nowadays US is one of the countries with the best freight transport by rail around the world, step by step from this stage to the electrification of the routes, then improve corridors etc.. Acela North-East corridor shoud be in the next decade be use by over 10 million people or more, you´ll see, be confident.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #3590
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This picture supposedly was near the opening, but I guess Chinese transport infrastructure will always have to appear over-dimensioned to contend with the New Year/Spring festival/Chunyun mayhem.
I think we are reading way too much into a single picture. I am sure someone can also find a picture of the same platform packed with people too.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:10 PM   #3591
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Must recognize !!, China has done an impresive work on mass transport by HSL, I Think this country will be one of the most oil independent in terms of mass transport in the future. They produce their own electricity, the grade of electrificatión of the ralways are impresive too, and the plans confirms this for very next future. If the metro area transports sistems are planned as well as the HSL´s , no oil crisis will get you off the way, well done !! sincerely congrats !!
By the time oil becomes scarce, the Chinese railway network will have reached the end of it's life and need rebuilding.

There is enough oil left in the ground for another hundred years+
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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:21 PM   #3592
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By the time oil becomes scarce, the Chinese railway network will have reached the end of it's life and need rebuilding.

There is enough oil left in the ground for another hundred years+
Meanwhile the oil is more and more expensive so it´s quite clever to invest in non-oil dependent mass transport even more for a country with millions and millions of people moving day by day, and the HSL lines are a good way to do it, even more if by the end the get HST technolgy and can build a new model by themselves. Clever people the Chinese, don´t doubt!!
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Old March 1st, 2012, 10:03 PM   #3593
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It is March.

When in this month shall testing of Wuhan-Zhengzhou high speed railway start?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 01:28 AM   #3594
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I think the intended meaning was why are there so few trains but so many platforms?
The reasons is not all routes are open yet.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:13 PM   #3595
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The reasons is not all routes are open yet.
I guess that's for when Beijing - Wuhan's entire stretch opens?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 08:36 PM   #3596
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As up to date, how many lines are open for public use?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 10:18 PM   #3597
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As up to date, how many lines are open for public use?
Probably depends on counting:
Beijing-Shanghai
Wuhan-Guangzhou South
Ningbo-Wenzhou
Wenzhou-Fuzhou
Fuzhou-Xiamen
Qingdao-Jinan
Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan
Zhengzhou-Xian
Nanjing-Hefei
Hefei-Wuhan
Yichang-Wanzhou
Chengdu-Suining-Dazhou
Shanghai-Hangzhou
Guangzhou South-Longhua
Qinhuangdao-Shenyang
Beijing-Tianjin
Chenhdu-Dujiangyan
Shanghai-Nanjing
Nanchang-Jiujian
Hainan East Ring
Changchun-Jilin
Guangzhou-Zhuhai

Is the list correct?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 11:14 PM   #3598
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It is March.

When in this month shall testing of Wuhan-Zhengzhou high speed railway start?
Power on tests commenced on Feb 25th, test run will start on March 11th, trial service start on April 11th, official opening on July 1st.
Test run on the Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang section will start on Jun 20th.
http://crh.gaotie.cn/shiwu/2012-02-21/24502.html

Also, Nanjing-Hangzhou line opening date has been specified by Jiangsu Provincial Transportation Department to be October 2012, test run starts in July.http://finance.ifeng.com/news/region.../5676234.shtml

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Old March 3rd, 2012, 06:37 PM   #3599
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http://politics.caijing.com.cn/2012-...111721595.html - possibly the Hankou-Yichang railway won't be opened in May?

Translation from http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...u-gets-social/
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More bad news for China’s beleaguered high-speed rail network: A dirt dealer has revealed that a 3-kilometer section of high-speed rail track bed between the cities of Wuhan and Yichang (汉宜高铁) in Hubei province was made using earth instead of rock, Cajing reports. “Because I supplied the earth, I have a responsibility to report it, otherwise I’m conspiring against the country,” the magazine quotes the dirt dealer, Ni Hongjun, as saying. According to Ni, the earth used in the track bed was left over from construction on a different part of the rail line. Were the track bed to become waterlogged due to heavy rain, it could soften and shift, the magazine says – no small matter on a line where trains typically travel between 200 and 250 kilometers per hour.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 07:46 PM   #3600
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Wuhan-Longhua

How many high speed trains daily now run Wuhan-Guangzhou South?
And how many high speed trains daily shall run Wuhan-Guangzhou South after 17th of March, when Wuhan-Guangzhou South-Longhua direct trains start?
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