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Old March 4th, 2012, 03:38 AM   #3601
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http://politics.caijing.com.cn/2012-...111721595.html - possibly the Hankou-Yichang railway won't be opened in May?

Translation from http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...u-gets-social/
This is a potentially very serious problem is proved to be true, as Hankou-Yichang railway is in an area prone to heavy rails and mudslides. The line is said to be more difficult to build than Qinghai-Tibet line and a lot of people died building it, so MOR better take this seriously or it's a grave crime against the nation.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 03:45 AM   #3602
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How many high speed trains daily now run Wuhan-Guangzhou South?
And how many high speed trains daily shall run Wuhan-Guangzhou South after 17th of March, when Wuhan-Guangzhou South-Longhua direct trains start?
Currently they are running 52 pairs between Wuhan and Guangzhou South. The final schedule for Wuhan-Shenzhen Longhua direct trains is still pending MOR approval, but the date is set at April 1st. http://www.china.com.cn/info/2012-02...t_24644688.htm
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Old March 4th, 2012, 08:06 AM   #3603
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China develops bullet train for use in extreme cold

Updated: 2012-03-04 12:53

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BEIJING - Chinese engineers have developed a new type of bullet train that can withstand temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Celsius, a researcher familiar with the train's development said Sunday.

Li Heping, a research fellow with the China Academy of Railway Sciences (CARS), told Xinhua on the sidelines of the annual session of the 11th Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) National Committee, which opened Saturday.

The prototype of the new bullet train was developed by China CNR Corporation Limited, the country's second largest train maker, said Li, who is also a member of the CPPCC National Committee.

Currently, the new bullet train is under safety evaluation and tests by the CARS, Li said.

"We demand bullet trains running in severe cold areas withstand the test of temperature as low as minus 40 degrees Celsius and such requirements are very stringent," he said.

According to Li, component parts, material and the control system equipped with the bullet train must pass all necessary tests under an ultra-low temperature environment before putting into operation.

If the new bullet train passes all tests, it is expected to debut in the Harbin-Dalian rail line, in northeast China, at the end of this year, Li said.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #3604
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Wuhan stations

I see that some D trains Wuhan-Hefei are described as departing from "Wuhan", some from "Wuhan Hankou" and some from "Wuhan Wuchang".

Which one of these stations is the one depicted as empty?

How many high speed railway stations are in central Wuhan, on the two high speed lines now operating?
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Old March 4th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #3605
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I see that some D trains Wuhan-Hefei are described as departing from "Wuhan", some from "Wuhan Hankou" and some from "Wuhan Wuchang".

Which one of these stations is the one depicted as empty?

How many high speed railway stations are in central Wuhan, on the two high speed lines now operating?
The new station is Wuhan Station, Hankou and Wuchang are two separate stations that is now connected on the same loop, so they are all serving Wuhan city, and are all CRH capable. Wuhan city is formed by Wuhan, Hankou, and Wuchang townships.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 04:31 PM   #3606
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World News (update)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vide...in-crash-video


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Old March 4th, 2012, 05:52 PM   #3607
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The new station is Wuhan Station, Hankou and Wuchang are two separate stations that is now connected on the same loop, so they are all serving Wuhan city, and are all CRH capable.
Does Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity Railway follow the whole loop and stop in Wuhan and all other stations on the loop?
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Old March 5th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #3608
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Does Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity Railway follow the whole loop and stop in Wuhan and all other stations on the loop?
My understanding is yes, that line will link all those stations in a loop.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #3609
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Great video,but a little bit old
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Old March 5th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #3610
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Is Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity Railway also built on earth, or is this line on schedule to open in May?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #3611
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Is Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity Railway also built on earth, or is this line on schedule to open in May?
No I believe that one is built either on the Chinese Moon or the Mars colony.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 03:31 AM   #3612
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Just wondrin if that new CRH is now under operation? I don't have the pic of the actual train but the design is simply amazing. I would love to see one running.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #3613
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So what are the destinations of the Wuhan Metropolis Intercity Railway?

One line goes south from the circle line. That is the Xianning line, and if it is built on rock not earth then it should open this May.
One line goes southeast along the south bank of Yangtze. That is Huangshi line. In which month should it open?
One line branches from the Huangshi line across to the north bank of Yangtze. That is Huanggang line.
One line goes northwest past Tianhe airport. That is Xiaogan line.
One line goes west from Hanyang between Yangtze and Han and branches. Which line is it?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #3614
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Is Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity Railway also built on earth, or is this line on schedule to open in May?
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No I believe that one is built either on the Chinese Moon or the Mars colony.
Lol almost missed this little exchange.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 11:01 AM   #3615
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Old March 7th, 2012, 05:35 AM   #3616
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Bullet trains still on the fast track

Perhaps not a lot of new information but still interesting:

Last Updated: 2012-03-07
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China will launch nine new lines for bullet trains by the end of this year, indicating that the country will not change its plans for railways in the 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-15) despite a fatal bullet train crash in July, a railway official said on Monday. Huang Qiang, chief researcher of the China Academy of Railway Sciences and a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference National Committee, added that the country will welcome overseas and private investment to overcome a lack of funding.

Some high-speed train projects were stalled last year because of a budget shortfall of 500 billion yuan ($79 billion) for the whole industry, said Huang. On Monday, Wang Mengshu, chief engineer of the China Railway Tunnel Group, told the annual session of the National People's Congress, the top legislative body, that the suspension cost the country more than 100 billion yuan, according to reports from the Xinhua News Agency. "According to China's plans, by the end of this year the total track length will stretch 80,000 kilometers, and will be 120,000 kilometers by the end of 2015," Huang said. The rails for the high-speed trains - currently 7,000 km in length - will account for 12,000 km of the 2015 total.

On July 23, a high-speed train crashed into a stalled engine near the city of Wenzhou leaving 40 people dead and 172 injured. It was the first major accident in the history of China's high-speed railway. An official report released about six months later showed that the collision was caused by severe design defects in control-center equipment and inadequate inspection of parts. "All the defective parts have been recalled and replaced," said Li Heping, another researcher at the China Academy of Railway Sciences and also a member of the CPPCC. Following the crash, the government reduced the speed of bullet trains to 300 km per hour from 350 km. However, Huang said the reduction wasn't implemented because of the accident, but because China's current railway situation doesn't call for such a high speed. "When we add more trains, the speed may rise again." he said. He also admitted that exports of high-speed trains will be affected by the crash in the short term, but he is optimistic about exporting trains and technology over the long term. "Although in some technologies, China is still behind developed countries, such as Japan and Germany, we have advanced technologies that are comparable with those of other countries," he said.

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Old March 7th, 2012, 07:38 AM   #3617
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^Owned.

I admire this perseverance by the Chinese... in America, one train crash in 1964 capped the speed at 79 mph, which is still enforced today. I wonder though, regarding their claim of reduced speed is really to save money or just a facade?
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Old March 7th, 2012, 09:48 AM   #3618
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China will launch nine new lines for bullet trains by the end of this year,
That is, lines which start construction.
Which is the list of these 9?
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indicating that the country will not change its plans for railways in the 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-15)
How many high speed railways shall, under the 12th Five Year Plan, start construction within 2013? Over 2014...2015?
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"According to China's plans, by the end of this year the total track length will stretch 80,000 kilometers, and will be 120,000 kilometers by the end of 2015," Huang said. The rails for the high-speed trains - currently 7,000 km in length - will account for 12,000 km of the 2015 total.
In other words, China shall complete 5000 km high speed railways within 2013...2015, and 35000 km low speed railways in these 3 years.

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However, Huang said the reduction wasn't implemented because of the accident, but because China's current railway situation doesn't call for such a high speed. "When we add more trains, the speed may rise again." he said.
May? Or may not. What shall the considerations be besides number of trains?
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I cannot see some existing high speed railways on the 4+4 map. Like Hainan East Ring.
Shall any other railways besides 4+4 be opened before 2020?
Which is the last of 4+4 to open?
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Old March 7th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #3619
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Perhaps not a lot of new information but still interesting:

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This image is wrong. China no longer has any HSR operating at 350 km/h, and Spain actually has some HSR operating OVER 300 km/h.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 05:02 PM   #3620
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Engineer appeals against halt on high-speed railway construction

BEIJING, March 5 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese railway engineer on Monday warned against a random halt to the country's high-speed railway construction, as it could cause huge losses.

Wang Mengshu, chief engineer of the China Railway Tunnel Group, said China lost more than 100 billion yuan (15.87 billion U.S.dollars) last year when several high-speed railway projects were halted due to a shortage in funding.

He made the remarks on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People's Congress (NPC), China's top legislature.

China has planned to build inter-city high-speed railways that could link Beijing and all the provincial capitals, as well as connect provincial capitals with smaller cities, said Wang, who is also an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering and an NPC deputy. ' The government aimed to make railway trips between Beijing and all provincial capitals, except Urumqi and Lhasa in the far west, no more than eight hours, he said.

China's railway sector was hit hard in the second half of 2011, after the government tightened liquidity control and a deadly train collision last July eroded investor confidence and limited the ministry's ability to borrow money or sell bonds.

The funding shortage has delayed the construction of the high-speed railway between Beijing and Guangzhou in the south, and that between Beijing and the northern city of Harbin. Both projects were scheduled to be finished by the end of last year, according to Wang.

China planned to invest 400 billion yuan in railway infrastructure construction in 2012, slightly down from the total expenditure of 469 billion yuan in 2011 and a marked decrease from over 700 billion yuan in 2010, according to the railway ministry.
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