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Old May 8th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #361
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Old May 9th, 2007, 03:58 AM   #362
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By the way, it introduced in Hong Kong from this year or the next year- maglev type subway is a thing by Japanese support.

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KUROKAWA is the global builder who produced Metabolism theory. (Kenzo Tange follower) .
Hong Kong has no plans to introduce a maglev. Where did you get this information? I have never heard it before.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:01 PM   #363
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #364
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Your manner and grammar are embarrassing Japan.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:06 PM   #365
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China is not based on an idea of the French Revolution such as equality under the law and human rights, and democracy. In the times, Western Europe and Japanese modernistic reason may collide with barbarian Chinese civilization (as Huntington wrote it) from now on. The Earth may be pulled back at the medieval barbarous feudal age by the Chinese hand.
I think now you are qualified to be banned, where's the mod?
BTW, you are giving us a reason to look down upon Japan, isn't it?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM   #366
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Indian invented the calculus symbles, but not the concept of 0. Other people are not so dump that they need such Indian "invention".

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In the times, Western Europe and Japanese modernistic reason may collide with barbarian Chinese civilization (as Huntington wrote it) from now on. The Earth may be pulled back at the medieval barbarous feudal age by the Chinese hand.
Give me a source, jap, or just your jap invention.

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Old May 10th, 2007, 06:27 AM   #367
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Where is the mod? All people try to keep silence until this Jap guy jumps out again.

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Old May 10th, 2007, 11:35 AM   #368
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I have re-opened this thread due to a request to do so, but the second it goes even slightly off-topic its again
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Old May 11th, 2007, 12:20 AM   #370
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Thank you. I have learned alot from this thread
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Old May 11th, 2007, 12:47 AM   #371
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Within a few years, China will claim the crown of total high speed rail length. Unlike the case of auto expressways which US has total length near that of the rest countries combined, there is no giant country with long high speed rail length now.
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Old May 11th, 2007, 04:05 AM   #372
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Any news on the CRH5 problem? I heard they were all taken out of service due to glitches.
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Old May 11th, 2007, 07:15 AM   #373
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Within a few years, China will claim the crown of total high speed rail length. Unlike the case of auto expressways which US has total length near that of the rest countries combined, there is no giant country with long high speed rail length now.
Exactly, that's why i think the chinese government should do more to encourage public transport rather than automobiles and fund way more on developments like subway and high speed rail than highways and roads, we must learn from other countries mistakes.
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Old May 11th, 2007, 08:16 AM   #374
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Within a few years, China will claim the crown of total high speed rail length. Unlike the case of auto expressways which US has total length near that of the rest countries combined, there is no giant country with long high speed rail length now.
even for expressways, China has a chance to surpass US in the near future. China has already built 45,600km expressways, by the end of this year, China's expressway length will pass 50,000km mark. With a building speed of 5,000km each year, it's only a matter of time.

China can not stop building the roads and develop its auto industry. Automobile industry has been growing to a key element in China's economy. China produced over 7 million cars in 2006, only next to US and Japan. How can the govt. ask people to stop buying cars and manufacturers stop producing them?
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Old May 11th, 2007, 01:07 PM   #375
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just imagine: if the number of cars/resident is as high in China as it is in the US or western europe, you would have around 700 million cars in China.....
Now how many roads do you need for that???

And how many HSR-Lines to prevent the country from this final traffic-hell?
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Old May 12th, 2007, 04:04 PM   #376
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just imagine: if the number of cars/resident is as high in China as it is in the US or western europe, you would have around 700 million cars in China.....
Now how many roads do you need for that???

And how many HSR-Lines to prevent the country from this final traffic-hell?
As they say, China will suck the world dry. Lets hope China continues to built more mass transportation so people won't buy as much cars. I bet the future railway map and metro maps of China would be scary.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 04:46 PM   #377
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some 4.18 speed-raising pictures

6003km rail reaches above 200km/h, covers 17 provinces







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Old May 12th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #378
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6003km rail reaches above 200km/h, covers 17 provinces
Very Interesting map. Thank you

Could somebody please translate the anotation box to inform us of the meaning of the Pink, Black and Green lines on the map

I hope that this map is published again at December 2007
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Old May 12th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #379
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considering how huge china is this map is ---well---showing that still a lot has to be done.
I see one big problem: usually trains are able to compete with aircraft at distances up to 800 km, if you take TGV or ICE trains, that go up to 350 km/h in regular service. If the distances are bigger, the aircraft is unbeatable faster.
Looking at how big china is, it will need a system "above" all that HSR.

A businessman wont take a train form Shanghai to Beiging even if it goes 300 or 350, because then you`ll still travel 3-3.5 hours compared to an hour by plane.
And Shanghai-Beijing is not even the longest distance in China, its acutally only mediocre.....

I cant understand why they dont build maglev trains at a large scale.
Bejing Shangha in 1:45h, at 550km/h with todays technology......
And they wouldnt need to buy planes from the US and EU and Oil from Iran.....
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Very Interesting map. Thank you

Could somebody please translate the anotation box to inform us of the meaning of the Pink, Black and Green lines on the map

I hope that this map is published again at December 2007
That table's translation:

Speed Length coverage
250km/h(Pink) 846km
>200km/h(Black) 6,003km
>160km/h(Green) 14,000km
>120km/h(Green) 22,000km
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