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Old April 14th, 2012, 11:16 AM   #3901
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Those are dedicated intercity lines (ICL) in China, it's a older maps so at the time only red lines were completed.
Which of the blues have been completed since?

And which is the next blue to become red? Wuhan-Xianning?
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Old April 14th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #3902
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Many, for example, Shanghai-Hangzhou, Nanjing-Hefei, Guangzhou-Shenzhen, Chengdu-Chongqing. The next one will be several marked branches of the Harbin-Dalian line, Nanjing-Hangzhou, and as you mentioned Wuhan Intercity line.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 04:29 PM   #3903
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Yes, but so can trams and trolleybuses.
Yeah but you don't need to do anything to put a bus on a city street, apart from stick bus-stop signs up. Although prohibiting all other traffic helps
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Old April 16th, 2012, 05:08 PM   #3904
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Many, for example, Shanghai-Hangzhou, Nanjing-Hefei, Guangzhou-Shenzhen, Chengdu-Chongqing.
The map depicts Shenyang-Jilin and Guangzhou-Zhuhai in red. These railways opened in January 2011.

Therefore that map must postdate January 2011.

In which year shall Chongqing-Suining high speed railway open?

Considering Chongqing-Suining and Chongqin-Lichuan-Wanzhou railways are depicted, why is Wuhan-Yichang high speed railway not included?
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Old April 16th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #3905
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The map depicts Shenyang-Jilin and Guangzhou-Zhuhai in red. These railways opened in January 2011.

Therefore that map must postdate January 2011.

In which year shall Chongqing-Suining high speed railway open?

Considering Chongqing-Suining and Chongqin-Lichuan-Wanzhou railways are depicted, why is Wuhan-Yichang high speed railway not included?
You mean Changchun-Jilin line which was opened in Jan 2011 right? But the problem is that Shanghai-Hangzhou is not in red, and it opened in 2010.

Chongqing-Suining already has a high speed line, the one currently building is a second set of double lines, work started in 2009 and is scheduled to be completed in 2013. IMO Wuhan-Yichang should be considered a proper intercity line too but maybe it's considered part of the Shanghai-Wuhan-Chengdu trunk line so it's not included. Note only the tree lines of the Wuhan metropolitan intercity rails are included (Xiaogan, Xianning, Huangshi) plus Jiujiang.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #3906
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I note that so long as Chongqing-Suining high speed railway is not completed, the Yangtze Valley trunk line goes from Shanghai only to Chongqing after the repairs of Wuhan-Yichang high speed railway and completion of Lichuan-Chongqing high speed railway.

How is the progress of the Nanjing-Anqing high speed railway? In which year shall it open?
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Old April 16th, 2012, 10:15 PM   #3907
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I note that so long as Chongqing-Suining high speed railway is not completed, the Yangtze Valley trunk line goes from Shanghai only to Chongqing after the repairs of Wuhan-Yichang high speed railway and completion of Lichuan-Chongqing high speed railway.

How is the progress of the Nanjing-Anqing high speed railway? In which year shall it open?
No it goes all the way to Chengdu via the existing Chongqing-Suining Railway, which has the same 200km/h speed standard as the additional track currently under construction. Note both lines are not passenger dedicated lines, the new track is also designed to carry double stacked container cars. This line is not to be confused with the new Chengdu-Chongqing PDL, which is a 300km/h line scheduled to open in 2014 and it doesn't pass through Suining.

Nanjing-Anqing line is going very well because it's fully financed by the Jiangsu Provincial government, construction started in Dec 2008 and is scheduled to finish by the end of this year, commercial operation will start in 2013.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #3908
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When are Beijing suburban railways Beijing-Tangshan and Tianjin-Baoding due for completion?
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Old April 17th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #3909
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Beijing-Tangshan PDL only started construction several months ago and won't be finished until after 2014, Tianjin-Baoding is currently suspended due to lack of funding.
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Old April 17th, 2012, 09:40 AM   #3910
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Updated March 13, 2012
By NORIHIKO SHIROUZU
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BEIJING—A Chinese official confirmed that numerous sections along a seven-kilometer, or four-mile, stretch of a new high-speed railway had sunk into the earth and would take one month to repair, as additional details of the latest blow to China's high-speed train system came to light.


Wang Zujian, director of the railway-construction bureau for the central China province of Hubei, said the incident occurred in part because the rail tracks were constructed partially on mounds of packed construction soil and gravel resting on unstable wetlands. He said workers have rushed to the scene to reinforce the rail tracks and their foundations. He noted, however, that it would likely take about a month to finish the repair work. The line—a nearly 300-kilometer track connecting the Yangtze River cities of Wuhan and Yichang—had been tested and was set to go into service in May. He didn't say whether the opening of the line would be postponed, but it appeared likely as new test runs would be needed after the repair work.
Over a month has passed.
How have the repairs been progressing?
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Old April 17th, 2012, 01:06 PM   #3911
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Wuhan-Yichang HSR Qianjiang section repair has already finished, it doesn't take that much to repair a 4mm sink.

Intensive testing have started on the line, a CRH2 comprehensive inspection train has been spotted at Yichang East and later testing at the Qianjiang section.





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Old April 17th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #3912
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Has there been any estimate as to when Wuhan-Yichang high speed railway may be completed?

Also, has anything been heard about the progress of Nanchang-Putian railway?
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Old April 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #3913
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List all of your questions you can think of for the next month and I'll try to answer in one shot.
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Old April 17th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #3914
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It's been five years.

On April 18, 2007, China Railways officially introduced its high-speed train service, the CRH.

Since then, I have been on the CRH trains for 590 times, travelled 97605 km, spent 25 days 3 hours 56 minutes in total on the high-speed trains. This is an average speed of 161.6 km/h. Full list here: http://pastebin.com/cEEfiFtD
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Old April 17th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #3915
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On April 18, 2007, China Railways officially introduced its high-speed train service, the CRH.

Since then, I have been on the CRH trains for 590 times, travelled 97605 km, spent 25 days 3 hours 56 minutes in total on the high-speed trains. This is an average speed of 161.6 km/h. Full list here: http://pastebin.com/cEEfiFtD
I think that almost qualify you as an expert on CRH from an user perspective. So what is your assessment of the CRH trains from both service and enginerring perspectives?

Really appreciate your answer on this!
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Old April 18th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #3916
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Trying to go through the questions systematically:
Next 2 months:
1) 1-2) The only high speed railways which have been last mentioned as opening before July 2012 were Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity railway (last due to open in May, no updates since) and Wuhan-Yichang high speed railway (has been mentioned as due for May, but afterwards collapsed).
Are there any updates as to when they are actually ready for service?
2) CIT500 tests have been reported. But the loop line in Beijing where the tests were mentioned was quite short and curvy.
Shall CIT500 be tested on Wuhan-Zhengzhou or Dalian-Harbin high speed railways before these get opened in July?
July 2012:
3) The total length of Wuhan-Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang high speed railway is often quoted (as 840 km). But how long is Wuhan-Zhengzhou alone?
Longhua-Shijiazhuang will obviously be 1912 km (compare Beijing-Hongqiao-Hangzhou 1487 km).
Also what would be the length Longhua-Zhengzhou East-Xian (I understand it would include reversing direction at Zhengzhou East).
4) More speculatively, what shall be the best total direct trip times Longhua-Xian and Longhua-Shijiazhuang this July?
(The existing G trains Beijing-Hongqiao-Hangzhou take over 6:19)
Later 2012:
5) In which month is opening of Wuhan-Huangshi Metropolis Railway planned?
6) After opening of Lichuan-Chongqing, there shall be a continuous trunk line Shanghai-Nanjing-Wuhan-Yichang-Lichuan-Chongqing-Suining-Chengdu, line speed at least 200 km/h save in Three Gorges mountains Yichang-Lichuan where it is 160 km/h.
What shall then be direct train time Shanghai-Chengdu?
Unclear and contradictory news:
7) In which year is the opening of Longhua-Futian high speed railway and Futian Station due?
8-9) What is the state of progress and opening due date of Nanchang-Putian railway? Of Harbin-Qiqihar high speed railway?
Works in progress beyond 2012:
10) In this thread, resumption of suspended construction of Tianjin-Qinhuangdao high speed railway has been reported. When is the line due for completion?

Now commenting on more speculative plans...
11) Has there been any official or serious discussion regarding next speedup or possibility of returning services to line speeds of 350 km/h, 250 km/h or 200 km/h?
12) From July, when over 1900 km long high speed railways open, even express trains shall travel inconveniently long for day trips, and would even at 350 km/h or beyond.
So far all high speed railways have closed between about 7:00 and 24:00.
But slow speed railways up to 200 km/h do manage to run night trains and find maintenance windows.
Have there been any serious plans for high speed night trains?
13) There are obvious gaps and missing links of high networks - whole sections are isolated.
Manchurian network shall get connected at least with 2016 opening of Beijing-Chengde-Shenyang. Lanzhou-Urumqi shall open in April 2013 and remain isolated till 2017.
Are there any serious plans for Guangzhou-Maoming-Zhenjiang-Haian high speed railway?

And a yet more speculative and general question:
14) Minister Fu Zhihuan retired in March 2003, around his 65th birthday. He was then replaced by Liu Zhijun, aged merely 50.
Yet Sheng Guangzu is actually 4 years older than Liu Zhijun, was 61 on taking office, and would be 63 in March 2013, and 73 in March 2023.
Is Sheng Guangzu the permanent, whole generation Minister of Railways? Or is China currently looking for a Minister of Railways who could take office in March 2013 and stay in office till 2023?
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Old April 18th, 2012, 01:16 AM   #3917
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On April 18, 2007, China Railways officially introduced its high-speed train service, the CRH.

Since then, I have been on the CRH trains for 590 times, travelled 97605 km, spent 25 days 3 hours 56 minutes in total on the high-speed trains. This is an average speed of 161.6 km/h. Full list here: http://pastebin.com/cEEfiFtD
Congrats on the occasion! I agree with Stoneybee that you are the most qualified person here to comment on the CRH system.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 04:19 AM   #3918
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On April 18, 2007, China Railways officially introduced its high-speed train service, the CRH.

Since then, I have been on the CRH trains for 590 times, travelled 97605 km, spent 25 days 3 hours 56 minutes in total on the high-speed trains. This is an average speed of 161.6 km/h. Full list here: http://pastebin.com/cEEfiFtD
What's your job?
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Old April 18th, 2012, 05:47 AM   #3919
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Face recognition at high-speed railways

Face recognition at high-speed railways
Updated: 2012-04-16 14:02
(chinadaily.com.cn)

The Chinese railway authority is planning to establish a face recognition system at three railway stations along the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway to assist the police in catching criminals, China Business Radio reported on Sunday.

The three railway stations are Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station, Tianjin West Railway Station and Jinan West Railway Station. The opening of bids starts on April 20.

The system, which is to be installed at a station's security check area, is believed to be able to screen a criminal's face even after a cosmetic surgery.

China has widely employed the face recognition system. At least 100 criminal suspects had been detected one month after the system was put into operation in 2006 in Beijing Railway Station and Beijing West Railway Station. The system has also been used in many other public security fields including at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games, Beijing Capital International Airport, hospitals and exam centers.

Researchers say they are also working on movable cameras that will be added to upgrade the system to screen faces at different angles.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_15059108.htm
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Old April 18th, 2012, 06:45 AM   #3920
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nice songs, and I think the Changsha Huanghua Airport T2 is pretty good.

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