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Old May 25th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #4001
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At that distance, it wouldn't ever really be competitive anyway. For example, the full line of the Sanyo shinkansen from Tokyo to Hakata takes roughly 5 hours and the share between rail and air on that route is: Rail: 10% - Air: 90%.

So unless suddenly the trains start running at 600km/h between Beijing and GZ/HK, I don't see it ever becoming a feasible competitor any time soon. (Sure there will be some who ride it for the novelty of the distance, much like the Trans-Siberian railway, or taking the shinkansen the whole way from Kagoshima Chuo to Tokyo, but that's not really going to be any significant proportion of people.)

High speed sleepers, however are entirely another story, and that actually looks like a very convenient and comfortable prospect.
I generally agree with you, but the situation in China is slightly different as the airlines' on time departure record is pretty crappy. So for the ~5 hour Beijing-Shanghai line it's actually very competitive with airlines. Another advantage is that people prefer the normal connectivity they enjoy on the train, cellphones, wireless broadband, etc. I personally wouldn't want to ride a non-sleeper train for more than 6 hours though.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #4002
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Old May 26th, 2012, 11:24 PM   #4003
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Has anyone figured out the distance Wuhan-Zhengzhou East?

What shall be the best trip time, as of 1st of July, of Longhua-Zhengzhou East-Xian trains?

When is Wuhan-Xianning Metropolis Intercity Rail due to open? And when is Wuhan-Yichang completed?
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Old May 28th, 2012, 03:55 AM   #4004
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Shenzhen Daily - 2012/05/28

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FUTIAN Station and the Guangdong section of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong high-speed rail will be completed within the year, authorities said.

Futian Station, at the intersection of Yitian Road and Shennan Boulevard with three stories underground, will be the only underground railway station in a central business district, or CBD, on the Chinese mainland.

The 2,412-km high-speed rail line starts in Guangzhou and ends in West Kowloon in Hong Kong. The 26-km Hong Kong section will be finished by 2015.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 04:04 AM   #4005
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It can be done
It sounds pretty painful, she should have travelled on a sleeper. But I guess it's still far better than railway travel in some other countries, which Yaohua has bravely endured.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 01:14 PM   #4006
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BEIJING, May 28 (Xinhua) -- China's former Railways Minister Liu Zhijun was expelled from the Communist Party of China (CPC) due to severe disciplinary violations, the CPC disciplinary watchdog said Monday.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #4007
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Old May 28th, 2012, 07:05 PM   #4008
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HSR construction in Xinjiang province (part of Urumqi-Lanzhou line)

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Old May 29th, 2012, 06:08 AM   #4011
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Yangtze River Intercity Railway prep work will commence this year, with construction start shortly after. The line will become the fourth HSR between Shanghai and Nanjing, but routed in such way that it connects cities previously not accessible via HSR. Total length 334km and design speed greater than 200km/h. It'll also be the first HSR line that's partially funded privately.

http://finance.ifeng.com/news/region.../6497256.shtml

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Old May 29th, 2012, 07:58 PM   #4012
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Yangtze River Intercity Railway prep work will commence this year, with construction start shortly after. The line will become the fourth HSR between Shanghai and Nanjing
What are the other three? Are they:

1. The old upgraded line
2. The new Shanghai-Nanjing highspeed line
3. Part of the Beijing-Shanghai highspeed line?
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Old May 30th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #4013
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Old May 31st, 2012, 06:48 AM   #4014
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A Chinese electric locomotive manufacturer has delivered the electric traction system, the network control system and traction motor of electric bullet trains to Georgia, it was announced on Wednesday.

The delivery signaled that China has become an exporter of such core technology for the first time, according to a statement issued by the Zhuzhou Institute of China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock Corporation Ltd..

The company designed and produced the exported traction transmission system and the network control system, regarded as the "heart and brain" of electric multiple units (EMUs), or multi-car electric bullet trains.

The locomotives will be used in bullet trains travelling at a speed of 120 km per hour between Georgian cities in the mountainous Caucasus region, according to the statement.

The project contract was signed in August 2011, and the products for the EMU including the auxiliary traction inverter, the network control system, the braking resistance and traction motor have all been delivered.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 08:40 AM   #4015
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...bullet trains travelling at a speed of 120 km per hour...http://en.ce.cn/Business/topnews/201...23368047.shtml
Propaganda at its best. This is probably just a regular EMU. This should be posted in the China | Railways group, not here...

Anyone got more detailed information?
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Old May 31st, 2012, 09:48 AM   #4016
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Posting a summary of existing train trip times from main centres - both high speed and low speed, as of late May 2012.

Beijing-Tianjin 123 daily, fastest are many C trains, nonstop, 120 km, 0:33 - 218 km/h

Beijing-Shenyang 37 daily, fastest D15, 2 stops, 703 km, 4:45 - 148 km/h

Beijing-Dalian 3 daily, fastest Z79/Z82, 3 stops, 1066 km, 10:37, overnight - 100 km/h

Beijing-Dandong 2 daily, faster K27, 8 stops, 1132 km, 13:50, overnight - 82 km/h

Beijing-Changchun 17 daily, fastest 2 trains incl. D73, 5 stops, 1003 km, 7:08 - 141 km/h

Beijing-Jilin 3 daily, fastest D73, 6 stops, 1114 km, 7:52 - 142 km/h

Beijing-Harbin 15 daily, fastest D27, 5 stops, 1249 km, 9:06 - 137 km/h

Beijing-Suifenhe no direct trains - minimum connection 2:00

Beijing-Manzhouli 3 daily, fastest K19, 12 stops, 2343 km, 1:04:30, over two nights - 82 km/h
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Beijing-Jinan 71 trains, fastest are 16 G trains incl. G101, nonstop, 406 km, 1:32 - 265 km/h

Beijing-Qingdao 10 trains, fastest G193, 3 stops, 819 km, 4:20 - 189 km/h

Beijing-Nanjing 60 trains, fastest 2 trains incl. G1, nonstop, 1023 km, 3:39 - 280 km/h

Beijing-Shanghai 55 trains, fastest 2 trains incl. G1, 1 stop, 1318 km, 4:48 - 275 km/h

Beijing-Hangzhou 12 trains, fastest G35, 6 stops, 1487 km, 6:19 - 235 km/h

Beijing-Ningbo 2 trains, faster D365, 14 stops, 1651 km, 10:58 - 151 km/h

Beijing-Wenzhou 2 trains, faster D365, 17 stops, 1921 km, 12:42 - 151 km/h

Beijing-Fuzhou 3 trains, faster D365, 20 stops, 2223 km, 14:50 - 150 km/h

Beijing-Xiamen 1 train K307, 21 stops, 2287 km via Jiujiang, 1:07:40 over one night - 72 km/h
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Old May 31st, 2012, 10:11 AM   #4018
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Has Dalian-Shenyang-Harbin high speed railway started test runs?
per news, Dalian-Shenyang-Harbin HSR will open by year-end instead of July 1st.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 10:15 AM   #4019
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Beijing-Hefei 6 trains, fastest Z73, 1 stop, 1109 km, 9:30 overnight - 117 km/h

Beijing-Jiujiang 8 trains, fastest Z65, nonstop, 1314 km, 10:15 overnight - 128 km/h

Beijing-Nanchang 10 trains, fastest Z65, 1 stop, 1449 km, 11:20 overnight - 128 km/h
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Beijing-Shijiazhuang 81 trains, fastest D135, nonstop, 277 km, 2:11 - 127 km/h

Beijing-Zhengzhou 40 trains, fastest 3 trains incl. 2 D and 1 T, D123 with 3 stops, 689 km, 5:32 - 125 km/h

Beijing-Wuhan 27 trains, fastest Z3, nonstop, 1205 km, 9:40 overnight - 125 km/h

Beijing-Changsha 17 trains, fastest Z17, nonstop, 1587 km, 13:05 overnight - 121 km/h

Beijing-Guangzhou 5 trains, fastest T15, 3 stops, 2294 km, 20:32 overnight - 112 km/h

Beijing-Shenzhen 2 trains, faster T107, 9 stops, 2372 km via Nanchang, 23:35 overnight - 101 km/h

Beijing-Hong Kong 1 train T97B, nonstop, 2475 km, 23:48 overnight - 104 km/h
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