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Old June 11th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #4081
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How about time? Nanjing-Hefei was the first high speed railway built in China (Qinhuangdao-Shenyang did not open at 250 km/h).
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Old June 11th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #4082
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I think the main problem is the number of stations along the route and lack of ability to segregate slow and fast services.

Also the Nanjing - Shanghai part of Wuhan - Shanghai is the regional PDL rather than the Shanghai - Beijing HSR. At Nanjing South trains can go onto the HSR tracks but not without crossing other train paths.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #4083
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Anyone has the news and photos of the Shanghai - Kunming CRH that is under construction? I heard that the whole line will be open on the year of 2015. Thanks for that.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 02:44 AM   #4084
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The main east-west line Nanjing-Wuhan is unfortunately slow at mere 250 km/h. But it seems to be poorly used.

From Wuhan to Guangzhou, 43 G trains leave daily. Fastest for the 968 km 3 express trains (1 stop) at 3:41 - non-expresses begin at 4:01, slowest 4:31.

From Wuhan to Shanghai, 15 D trains leave daily. Fastest for the 829 km is 1 express trains (1 stop) at 5:10 - non-expresses begin at 5:47, slowest 6:24.

Could it make sense to add a few more express D trains (2 stops) to travel Shanghai-Wuhan under 5:30?
I do not know if Shanghai-Wuhan generates that sort of volume via either rail or air. Certainly it isn't on the scale of Beijing-Shanghai or Hong Kong-Shanghai.

However, most small, out of the way airports in China, and Wuhan is not a small city, have services albeit delayed as mentioned, to many nearby and far-flung cities. So it is possible to fly from provincial capitals or even smaller cities to many points in China and get about with ease.

There is a history of providing access to transportation when the demand is very very low.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #4085
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How about time? Nanjing-Hefei was the first high speed railway built in China (Qinhuangdao-Shenyang did not open at 250 km/h).
Nanjing-Hefei didn't open until April 2008, a year earlier CRH trains running on upgraded Shanghai-Nanjing line already travel at a maximum speed of 250km/h near Anting.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 07:31 PM   #4086
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Two queries for those who may know:

What is the progress of the Zhengzhou-Wuhan leg?
What is the progress of the Xi'an-Datong line?

Projected date of construction completion?
Joint calibration and testing?
Donkey testing? High speed testing?
Trial Runs?

I am new to much of this terminology.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #4087
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Two queries for those who may know:

What is the progress of the Zhengzhou-Wuhan leg?
What is the progress of the Xi'an-Datong line?

Projected date of construction completion?
Joint calibration and testing?
Donkey testing? High speed testing?
Trial Runs?

I am new to much of this terminology.
Zhengzhou-Wuhan will start joint calibration and testing on June 20th, opening to commercial operation will be later this year. Xi'an-Datong PDL construction is going full speed ahead after significant slow downs last year, the line is expected to be finished by 2014 and operation starts in late 2014 or early 2015.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 08:06 PM   #4088
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From June 21st until August 31st Shanghai-Nanjing and Shanghai Hangzhou HSR will start summer promotional rate on certain trains and seats. Fares for business class seats will be discounted up to 30% and VIP seats up to 10%. No news about discount on 2nd class seats presumably because high demand.

http://news.sina.com.cn/o/2012-06-13/080424583812.shtml
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Old June 15th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #4089
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MOR is set to increase railway infrastructure construction funding by RMB 34 billion to a total of RMB 440 billion. Current data shows May 2012 investment is already RMB 50 billion more than April's figure. The increase is mostly concentrated on accelerating construction of ongoing HSR projects. MOR's original plan was to finish the eight trunk lines by the end of 2012 but it may be delayed by a year. Beijing-Guangzhou HSR was suppose to be finished by October but now it's slipped to by the end of the year.

http://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/2012...12328329.shtml
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Old June 16th, 2012, 10:20 AM   #4090
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Beijing-Guangzhou HSR was suppose to be finished by October but now it's slipped to by the end of the year.

http://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/2012...12328329.shtml
Which is currently the last link of Beijing-Longhua due to open? Beijing-Shijiazhuang, or the recently delayed Wuhan-Zhengzhou?
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Old June 17th, 2012, 07:06 AM   #4091
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Hanchuan Station

Is this a high speed rail line?
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Old June 17th, 2012, 07:14 AM   #4092
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Well, it is definitely not one of 350+ km/h designed main trunk lines. The new lines are balastless.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #4093
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Is this a high speed rail line?
Wuhan-Yichang is a 200+km/h line, not a PDL, so it's a mix line that has D, T, K, or even G trains on it, but also shares track with freight traffic.
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Old June 18th, 2012, 06:26 AM   #4094
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Wuhan-Yichang is a 200+km/h line, not a PDL, so it's a mix line that has D, T, K, or even G trains on it, but also shares track with freight traffic.
Does it have NNNN trains as well? Not that fast at all, then.
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Old June 18th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #4095
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Almost completely forgotten about that line, Wuhan-Yichang finished its joint calibration testing in early May, trial run started on May 16th and it's suppose to last one month. So I assume official opening will happen in the next week or two.
In which week specifically?

Have the ticket prices been disclosed?
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Old June 19th, 2012, 01:01 AM   #4096
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Wuhan-Yichang will official open on July 1st, when the new MOR operating schedule comes into effect. Tickets probably will go on sale next week (25th). There is no news about the prices yet.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 05:52 AM   #4097
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From June 21st until August 31st Shanghai-Nanjing and Shanghai Hangzhou HSR will start summer promotional rate on certain trains and seats. Fares for business class seats will be discounted up to 30% and VIP seats up to 10%. No news about discount on 2nd class seats presumably because high demand.

http://news.sina.com.cn/o/2012-06-13/080424583812.shtml
Beijing-Shanghai high-speed train ticket prices cut

BEIJING, June 17 (Xinhua) -- Travelers will enjoy discounts when buying business-class tickets and premium seats on Beijing-Shanghai high-speed trains from June 27, according to the Ministry of Railways.

Business-class tickets for the 85 high-speed trains operating on the country's busiest railway line will be reduced by 10 to 20 percent, while tickets for premium seats will be cut by 10 percent, according to a statement posted on the website of the ministry.

After the price cut, business-class tickets will be lowered to between 1,400 yuan (222.22 U.S. dollars) and 1,575 yuan from the current 1,750 yuan. Prices of premium seats will stand at 949 yuan, down from the current 1,055 yuan.

The discounts will vary according to different trains, the time of ticket purchases and the day of departure, according to the statement.

The ministry's move aims to attract more passengers to business class, which has been suffering from low attendance.

However, Zhao Jian, professor at the Beijing Jiaotong University, said the new policy may have little effect as the discounts are not big enough.

He suggested that railway authorities instead adopt a floating pricing system like airline companies to maintain competitiveness.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:50 AM   #4098
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #4099
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Longyan-Xiamen Railway is scheduled to open on June 30th.
Thus the day before 1st of July opening of Wuhan-Yichang.

Have the schedules of Xiamen-Longyan been disclosed?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 06:08 AM   #4100
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高清:南京高铁站建成即废 被网友称“奇葩”

Pictures of abandoned, new high speed rail station at Zijin, Shandong

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