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Old May 14th, 2007, 08:48 PM   #401
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I have been trying to display this map with out success.

I have eliminated connection speed and ".swf" format. I suspect that the trouble may well be the character set.

Could you save it, without animation, as a .jpg?

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Old May 14th, 2007, 09:26 PM   #402
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Old May 15th, 2007, 05:05 AM   #403
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Old May 15th, 2007, 05:14 AM   #404
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Any other CRH pics besides the CRH2 or CHR1? Any news about CRH3 or 5 seems rather quiet.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 03:31 PM   #405
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When will be able to travel China from the Eastcoast to the western border at 300 kmh? Or are they not planning to do this?
Whats the most western city that they plan to connect to real high speed (300kmh+?)
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Old May 15th, 2007, 05:35 PM   #406
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When will be able to travel China from the Eastcoast to the western border at 300 kmh? Or are they not planning to do this?
Whats the most western city that they plan to connect to real high speed (300kmh+?)
That is an interesting question. I have never seen China publish in the International press an specific plans, just projections like "10,000 km of new railways". For the immediate future I don't expect very many lines will exceede 250 km/k. Probably only along the Beijing <Tianjin> Shanghai corridor for the immediate future. I do expect the east west route to be upgraded to 200 km/h as far as Lanzhou. Whether they will invest in upgrading all the way to Urumqi is the realy interesting question.

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Old May 15th, 2007, 05:40 PM   #407
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Western China is still considered as the remote area, less people live in the west compared to the east.

So it's not in the immediate plan to build 300km/h train lines to the west. But it's possible to build such lines from north China to the south in the near future.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 11:12 PM   #408
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Any other CRH pics besides the CRH2 or CHR1? Any news about CRH3 or 5 seems rather quiet.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 06:08 AM   #409
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considering how huge china is this map is ---well---showing that still a lot has to be done.
I see one big problem: usually trains are able to compete with aircraft at distances up to 800 km, if you take TGV or ICE trains, that go up to 350 km/h in regular service. If the distances are bigger, the aircraft is unbeatable faster.
Looking at how big china is, it will need a system "above" all that HSR.

A businessman wont take a train form Shanghai to Beiging even if it goes 300 or 350, because then you`ll still travel 3-3.5 hours compared to an hour by plane.
And Shanghai-Beijing is not even the longest distance in China, its acutally only mediocre.....

I cant understand why they dont build maglev trains at a large scale.
Bejing Shangha in 1:45h, at 550km/h with todays technology......
And they wouldnt need to buy planes from the US and EU and Oil from Iran.....
plane trip isn't really one hour, considering airport is usually far away from the city (while train station is at city center), and take account into check-in, security check, luggage claim etc. Train easily beats airplane!! (or at least not much difference in time, but much cheaper ticket)
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Old May 16th, 2007, 08:51 AM   #410
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China's fast trains get off to a slow start, state media says
15 May 2007

BEIJING (AP) - China's new fast trains are off to a slow start, with several breakdowns raising concerns about the technology used, state media reported Tuesday.

The China Daily said that in the past month there have been three reported breakdowns of trains on the Beijing-Harbin line.

It said in a front-page story that the latest breakdown was last weekend when a train from Harbin in northeastern China pulled into Beijing station 4 hours and 52 minutes behind schedule.

The trains, which went into service on April 18, are supposed to travel at speeds of 160 to 200 kilometers per hour (100 to 125 miles per hour), but an automatic braking system has been kicking in for minor problems, the newspaper said.

A spokesman from the Railway Ministry, who refused to give his name, confirmed the breakdowns.

"It's normal because the new trains must go through a breaking-in period. There are no safety problems," he said, but refused to elaborate.

The newspaper said the air conditioning system also broke down in the sealed carriages.
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China's fast trains get off to a slow start, state media says
15 May 2007

BEIJING (AP) - China's new fast trains are off to a slow start, with several breakdowns raising concerns about the technology used, state media reported Tuesday.

The China Daily said that in the past month there have been three reported breakdowns of trains on the Beijing-Harbin line.

It said in a front-page story that the latest breakdown was last weekend when a train from Harbin in northeastern China pulled into Beijing station 4 hours and 52 minutes behind schedule.

The trains, which went into service on April 18, are supposed to travel at speeds of 160 to 200 kilometers per hour (100 to 125 miles per hour), but an automatic braking system has been kicking in for minor problems, the newspaper said.

A spokesman from the Railway Ministry, who refused to give his name, confirmed the breakdowns.

"It's normal because the new trains must go through a breaking-in period. There are no safety problems," he said, but refused to elaborate.

The newspaper said the air conditioning system also broke down in the sealed carriages.


Any idea what type of train(s) is breaking down?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #412
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Old May 19th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #413
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Xinhua News:
Chinese railways carry record passengers, freight
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Old May 21st, 2007, 01:59 PM   #414
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Xinhua Photo Gallary on High Speen Trains:
Three generations devote to China's train transformation
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:40 PM   #415
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CHINA: Harbin-Dalian New High-Speed Railway to be built by 2010

A new highspeed railway will be built from Harbin to Dalian and will enter service by 2010.
The route is 902km long, with an total investment topping 94.5bn RMB (12bn USD). The design speed of the railway is 300km/hr with an average speed of around 200km/hr, therefore shorten the journey time from Harbin to Dalian from 9 hours to around 4 hours. The journey time from Shenyang to Dalian will be within 2 hours (currently 4 hours).
The newly to-be-built railway will be purely for passengers, with the current railway preserved for freights. Current Harbin - Dalian line is already saturated: trains running at every 6 minutes on average and every 2-3 minutes at peak times.

Links in Chinese:
http://chinaneast.xinhuanet.com/2006...nt_6007881.htm
http://liaoning.nen.com.cn/779938573.../2053698.shtml



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Harbin, Changchun, Siping, Tieling, Shenyang, Liaoyang, Anshan, Yingkou, Dalian.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 10:59 PM   #416
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Great. I hope they'll build a link Dalian-Yantai one day with high speed railway (or maglev ) and highway. That will save many, many hours when travelling from North East to Shanghai.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 11:18 PM   #417
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I think the Dalian <> Yantai sea ferries began operations 2006. The route is being developed by Zhongtie Bohai Railway Ferry Co who plan to build as many a six ferry boats.

The Ferry route is about 150 km which is a little long for a tunnel in the immediate future
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 11:51 PM   #418
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love those fast trains
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I don't like the Chang Bai San design, its a distorted version of ICE3. Thank god its not the CRH3.
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