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Old August 30th, 2012, 08:41 PM   #4321
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No, none are largest enough to make all express trains to stop, but they may rotate between Zhumadian, Xinyang, and Xuchang.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 06:05 AM   #4322
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Wuhan-Hefei-Nanjing has been running for a long time.
....When I was checking train schedules, there were no G trains for that route. Just the D.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 01:24 PM   #4323
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....When I was checking train schedules, there were no G trains for that route. Just the D.
Same applies to most other lines built for 250 km/h.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 05:39 PM   #4324
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Same applies to most other lines built for 250 km/h.
Thanks, I didn't know.
It's not exactly intuitive you know
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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:26 PM   #4325
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Joint calibration and testing concluded last week and trial operation started today, trains used are CRH2C and CRH380AL, they will operate at 300km/h. This is the last phase before commercial operation can be started, which will happen later this month or in October depends on the outcome of the trial operation.
I drove near Zhengzhou last week and there were sections over the G30 that were still incomplete north of Zhengzhou on Aug 22.

Normally, per hmmv's prior posts, once joint calibration and testing concludes and trial operation starts is a matter of 4 to 8 weeks to commercial operations, depending. JC&T takes a few months as they dial in the line.

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Old August 31st, 2012, 11:18 PM   #4326
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I drove near Zhengzhou last week and there were sections over the G30 that were still incomplete north of Zhengzhou on Aug 22.

Normally, per hmmv's prior posts, once joint calibration and testing concludes and trial operation starts is a matter of 4 to 8 weeks to commercial operations, depending. JC&T takes a few months as they dial in the line.
Zhengzhou - Shijiazhuang section is already complete so what you saw is probably some line branches. Joint calibration and testing takes three to four months, trial operation to commercial operation takes one to two months.
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Old September 1st, 2012, 12:42 AM   #4327
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Since the proper Beijing-Shenyang HSR connection seems to be postponed,
will G trains run temporarily from Beijing to Harbin, using part upgraded rail (Beijing-Qinhuangdao), part Qinhuangdao–Shenyang HSR and part Shenyang-Harbin HSR?
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Old September 1st, 2012, 12:51 AM   #4328
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Thanks, I didn't know.
It's not exactly intuitive you know
Not your fault... it's very illogical and one of the few things I don't like about the Chinese HSR plans: as one of the big East-West axes, Shanghai-Nanjing-Wuhan-Chongqing-Chengdu should have been built to 380 km/h specifications.
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Old September 1st, 2012, 12:57 AM   #4329
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Not your fault... it's very illogical and one of the few things I don't like about the Chinese HSR plans: as one of the big East-West axes, Shanghai-Nanjing-Wuhan-Chongqing-Chengdu should have been built to 380 km/h specifications.
I've been slowly realizing that. It makes it all rather confusing until you're abreast of all the developments.
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Old September 1st, 2012, 05:23 PM   #4330
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Not your fault... it's very illogical and one of the few things I don't like about the Chinese HSR plans: as one of the big East-West axes, Shanghai-Nanjing-Wuhan-Chongqing-Chengdu should have been built to 380 km/h specifications.
I agree, the reason is probably because the difficult terrain through Hubei and Sichuan/Chongqing made it way too expensive to do 380km/h. Also MOR probably didn't expect people to ride the whole way like Beijing-Shanghai since the total distance is too long. Instead it's more like a string of intercity lines.
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 01:37 PM   #4331
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Some pics of Zhengzhou-Wuhan HSR near Xinyang city.




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Old September 2nd, 2012, 01:38 PM   #4332
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Shijiazhuang Station will be open later this year as Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou section opens.







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Old September 2nd, 2012, 03:37 PM   #4333
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I agree, the reason is probably because the difficult terrain through Hubei and Sichuan/Chongqing made it way too expensive to do 380km/h. Also MOR probably didn't expect people to ride the whole way like Beijing-Shanghai since the total distance is too long. Instead it's more like a string of intercity lines.
Yes, but Wuhan is closer to Shanghai than to Guangzhou, and the terrain is not harder either in that part. It would be useful if Wuhan-Shanghai could be cut from 5:10 to under 3 hours. Hefei, too, could benefit from connections faster than 2:23.

In which month is Bengbu-Hefei high speed railway due to open?

When it does, which shall be the fastest way Shanghai-Hefei - directly Nanjing-Hefei, which is on a 250 km/h, or Nanjing-Bengbu-Hefei, which is a detour but on 350 km/h lines all the way?
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 06:16 PM   #4334
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Nice pictures. Especially this one
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 07:15 PM   #4335
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Shijiazhuang Station will be open later this year as Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou section opens.










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Old September 3rd, 2012, 03:41 AM   #4336
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Yes, but Wuhan is closer to Shanghai than to Guangzhou, and the terrain is not harder either in that part. It would be useful if Wuhan-Shanghai could be cut from 5:10 to under 3 hours. Hefei, too, could benefit from connections faster than 2:23.

In which month is Bengbu-Hefei high speed railway due to open?

When it does, which shall be the fastest way Shanghai-Hefei - directly Nanjing-Hefei, which is on a 250 km/h, or Nanjing-Bengbu-Hefei, which is a detour but on 350 km/h lines all the way?
You are right at least Wuhan-Nanjing should be 350km/h.

Regarding Hefei-Bengbu testing only started on 8/3/12 so at best it will open in December. On 8/17/12 a CIT tested a top speed of 385km/h on this line.


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Those pictures are beautiful, hmmwv!
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Note the Siemens CTCS transponders in the Shijiazhuang Station pictures.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #4339
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what are the concluded lines else the shanghai-beijing?
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Old September 5th, 2012, 01:40 AM   #4340
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Is the Shijiazhuang an existing station that was upgraded to support CRH trains? The people working on China's High Speed Rail system seem to be doing a phenomenal job. Of course there are problems and issues that might need to be addressed of but the implementation seems to be going really well.

Great pictures hmmwv!!!!

I love this video (posted April 12, 2012), non stop from Shenzhen North to Guangzhou south, a little over 28 minutes. Speed doesn't reach 350km/h like I thought it did. Maybe the speed restrictions are still in effect.:

Notes:
Guangmingcheng(Guangming) station: 7:05
Humen station: 14:22
Entering Pearl River Tunnel: 15:40
Exiting Pearl River Tunnel: 18:25
Qingsheng(Dongchong) Station: 18:55


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