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Old May 23rd, 2007, 12:59 AM   #421
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China should jump the tech ladder on trains. Instead of going after 300kmph they should perhaps consult the French on building a 500Kmph train.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 01:36 AM   #422
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China should jump the tech ladder on trains. Instead of going after 300kmph they should perhaps consult the French on building a 500Kmph train.
Where will all the energy come from?
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 02:44 AM   #423
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I think the Dalian <> Yantai sea ferries began operations 2006. The route is being developed by Zhongtie Bohai Railway Ferry Co who plan to build as many a six ferry boats.

The Ferry route is about 150 km which is a little long for a tunnel in the immediate future
Some photos for the Yantai-Dalian train-on-ferry operations


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Old May 23rd, 2007, 03:33 AM   #424
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Where will all the energy come from?
Uh. . . . electricity what else?
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 05:27 AM   #425
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China should jump the tech ladder on trains. Instead of going after 300kmph they should perhaps consult the French on building a 500Kmph train.
Well if they want a train that can actually go 500kmph then they need to speak to the Germans not the French. The French high speed train record set by the new TGV is a one off, achieved by the use of a highly modified trainset. There is absolutely no prospect of a 500kmph high speed rail service using wheel on rail technology. The only way it can be achieved as a crusing speed in a regular service is through the use of maglev technology. The only commercial high speed maglev service currently running is the transrapid link in Shanghai.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 05:49 AM   #426
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I don't think conventional track can sustain 500 km/h, so whether or not to invest in a separate rail infrastructure for these super trains comes to question.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:07 AM   #427
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Uh. . . . electricity what else?
China has very severe problems generating and distributing electricity so electricity is not a simple answer .

To double the speed of a train or a MagLev vehical from 250 km/h to 500 km/h will require eight times the energy consumption .

Japan and German may be able to afford this type on energy consumption but Chine will be very cautious!
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:11 AM   #428
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Some photos for the Yantai-Dalian train-on-ferry operations
Thank you for the pictures .

Do you know how long is the ferry boat?
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 03:16 PM   #429
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I think the Dalian <> Yantai sea ferries began operations 2006. The route is being developed by Zhongtie Bohai Railway Ferry Co who plan to build as many a six ferry boats.

The Ferry route is about 150 km which is a little long for a tunnel in the immediate future
Well, they are supposed to be planning a tunnel/bridge link. I think there is a chain of islands along the strait? It could be useful for a bridge project.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 04:12 PM   #430
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Well, they are supposed to be planning a tunnel/bridge link. I think there is a chain of islands along the strait? It could be useful for a bridge project.
Good catch.
I had never noticed that chain of islands before .
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Dear VVVV,

Could you please explain about the color code on the High Speed track in the mainland China ....
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:21 PM   #432
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hello Wisarut
Those colored lines only present different routes from one city to another that involved in the sixth rail speed raise event.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:33 PM   #433
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Do you know how long is the ferry boat?
Zhongtie Bohai No.1:
Length: 182.6m
Width: 24.8m
Design speed: 33.34km/hr
It carries a 50-car 80t train, 50 20t heavy trucks, 25 cars and 480 passengers per journey.
I guess the train will be divided.

Source: Shangdong news
http://www2.sdnews.com.cn/news/shizh...21_262539.html
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 08:24 PM   #434
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Old May 24th, 2007, 01:03 AM   #435
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Changbei mountain







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CRH 5



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Old May 24th, 2007, 04:51 AM   #436
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Ah finally some pics for CRH5. Must they color all trains white and blue? They should color it differently so it feels like there are multiple kinds of train types like in Europe or Japan.
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Ha! Like the fake phones "feel" like the name brand.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 10:47 AM   #438
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uniformaty (if this word exists) is good in this case. colourful trains will mess up the system.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 11:57 AM   #439
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Ah finally some pics for CRH5. Must they color all trains white and blue? They should color it differently so it feels like there are multiple kinds of train types like in Europe or Japan.
I think it looks more clean with a uniformed livery. Even the Shinkansen did it for a while before each group decided on their own liveries.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:51 PM   #440
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The different Shinkansen are operated by indepdent companies, they probably want to develop their own "brand identity".
CRH trains should have the same livery, since right now they are trying to promote this brand, but they should have tried something more lively, and esp get rid of that ugly font.
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