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Old September 20th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #4441
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Sorry guys, but I sadly don't follow this thread that much... Could someone please update me on the state of the Shanghai - Hong Kong HSR line?
Which one?
Shanghai-Hangzhou-Ningbo-Wenzhou-Fuzhou-Xiamen-Longhua-Futian-Kowloon West?
Or Shanghai-Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha-Guangzhou-Longhua-Futian-Kowloon West?
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Old September 20th, 2012, 04:49 PM   #4442
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Shanghai-Hangzhou-Ningbo-Wenzhou-Fuzhou-Xiamen-Longhua-Futian-Kowloon West?
The coastal line...
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Old September 20th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #4443
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The coastal line...
Hangzhou-Ningbo and Xiamen-Longhua are delayed into 2013.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 04:57 PM   #4444
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Hangzhou-Ningbo and Xiamen-Longhua are delayed into 2013.
So I heard... I'll be in Shanghai in late May. Hopefully it will be completed by that time... Thx, though...
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #4445
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The only uncertainty is Nanjing-Hangzhou and Hangzhou-Ningbo, infrastructure construction of Nanjing-Hangzhou hasn't completed and joint calibration and testing won't start until October at the earliest, which will last 144 days according to a Shanghai RB document. Same with Hangzhou-Ningbo, there is no date yet for the start of testings.
Has any date for Hangzhou-Ningbo tests been disclosed?
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:54 PM   #4446
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Thanks for those sites. Are they going to be extending the e-ticketing to non-Chinese (i.e. people without the ID cards) anytime soon? I'd really like that, I always have issues ordering at the window haha

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This is already the case in China for NNNN and KNNN trains as the stations are usually adjacent to a bus terminal and surrounded by hotels of all price points.

This is one of the few flaws in the China CRH system - you must make certain that you arrive at your destination early evening so that you can take a bus or subway or CRH to your final destination (or have a friend with auto pick you up). Arriving at Guangzhou South at 11:30pm and having few choices for ongoing transport is not enjoyable.

Taking any late day trains will get you to a nice, shiny, new, enormous HSR terminal in the middle of nowhere late at night with no way to continue on.
This is a very good point. The metro in Shanghai closes by about 11pm. I guess it has to do with the fact that it costs more to operate per-passenger mile than during the day?

Also, why not run short commuter trains between the stations (specifically during the periods where the metros aren't running)? Though, it'd probably be a bit of a logistical nightmare.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 06:00 PM   #4447
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Thanks for those sites. Are they going to be extending the e-ticketing to non-Chinese (i.e. people without the ID cards) anytime soon?.
They already do. Use your passport and residence visa number as the PRCID number.

The issue with 12306 is that it is in Mandarin.

Have a friend help or use online translations.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #4448
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They already do. Use your passport and residence visa number as the PRCID number.

The issue with 12306 is that it is in Mandarin.

Have a friend help or use online translations.
Oh! Didn't know that
I just remembered the first phase only being available to Chinese residents (or maybe it was ALL residents and I was just misinformed, probably).
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Old September 21st, 2012, 03:48 AM   #4449
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A city that does have its centre dug up to build a HSR station is Shenzhen.

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... and Hong Kong (or Kowloon West to be exact)
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Old September 21st, 2012, 03:51 AM   #4450
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Guangshen CRH1 line ("old" one) has a new seat numbering system. Similar as on the places, the seats are numbered 1A, 1B, 1C, ... 1F and so on. Anyone wants a window seat, ask for "A" or "F".
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Old September 21st, 2012, 04:00 AM   #4451
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unfortunately not

someone decided to name the old Buji station as Shenzhen East

in my opinion, simply add 'Shenzhen' in the front then 'Shenzhen Buji station' will work clearly and easily for the people who want to travel to Shenzhen
but some stupid decided to change the whole city around

then the old 'Shenzhen East station' will be named something different

probably the metro station next to it will not be called Buji Station anymore
If this news is true, the new station name would definitively cause some confusion, as you have two big "East" stations about 100km apart on the same line.

Will CRH1 stop at the new Buji, sorry East, station?
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Old September 21st, 2012, 09:07 AM   #4452
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It is 21st today.

On 30th, Moon Cake Holiday starts a 8 day vacation, so hundreds of millions of Chinese need to be home.

On which day does Wuhan-Zhengzhou high speed railway open?
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Old September 21st, 2012, 10:32 AM   #4453
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Oh! Didn't know that
I just remembered the first phase only being available to Chinese residents (or maybe it was ALL residents and I was just misinformed, probably).
12306 accepts foreign passport from day one. The only things prevent you from using it are:
• A UnionPay-compatible bank account.
• A Chinese mobile phone number to receive verify SMS during the sign up process.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 12:37 PM   #4454
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It is 21st today.

On 30th, Moon Cake Holiday starts a 8 day vacation, so hundreds of millions of Chinese need to be home.

On which day does Wuhan-Zhengzhou high speed railway open?
I want to know, too. I hope any day very soon, now.
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Old September 21st, 2012, 05:48 PM   #4455
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I love the YouTube videos posted online for CRH trains. Noticing the announcements I thought they would be the same around the CRH system but they all seem to be different. Different announcement tones, different music is played. I love how train number is announced in this video from Xi'an - Zhengzhou.

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Old September 21st, 2012, 07:52 PM   #4456
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I want to know, too. I hope any day very soon, now.
September 28th

According to the Ministry of Railways, the quickest travel from Guangzhou North to Zhengzhou East will take 5 hrs 56 mins (G548)


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Old September 21st, 2012, 08:17 PM   #4457
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Xi'an North to Shenzhen North:

G824 / 1: 11.45 Xi'an North -> 21:00 to Shenzhen North.
G822 / 3: 9:15 Shenzhen North -> 18:35 to Xi'an North.

Full fare : second-class seat 891 yuan, first-class seat 1,404 yuan

Xi'an North to Guangzhou South:

G834 8:10 Xi'an North -> Guangzhou South 16:59
G838 9:40 Xi'an North -> Guangzhou South 18:32
G842 12:45 Xi'an North -> Guangzhou South 21:19
G846 14:25 Xi'an North -> Guangzhou South 23:03

Guangzhou South to Xi'an North:

G832 7:15 Guangzhou South -> Xi'an North 16:13
G836 11:32 Guangzhou South -> Xi'an North 20:30
G840 12:10 Guangzhou South -> Xi'an North 20:57
G844 13:25 Guangzhou South -> Xi'an North 22:00

Full fare : second-class seat 816 yuan, first-class seat 1304 yuan

Xi'an North to Changsha:

G854 15:45 Xi'an North -> Changsha South 21:59
G852 8:50 Changsha South -> Xi'an North 15:15

Full fare : second-class seat 592 yuan, first-class seat 947 yuan

Xi'an North to Wuhan:

G858 15:00 Xi'an North -> Wuhan 19:46
G856 9:35 Xi'an North -> Wuhan 14:26

Full fare : second-class seat 459 yuan, first-class seat 734 yuan

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Old September 22nd, 2012, 06:14 AM   #4458
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According to the Ministry of Railways, the quickest travel from Guangzhou North to Zhengzhou East will take 5 hrs 56 mins (G548)

Ah .. so that's the indirect alignment, wasting time to route through Zhengzhou.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 10:02 AM   #4459
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I love the YouTube videos posted online for CRH trains. Noticing the announcements I thought they would be the same around the CRH system but they all seem to be different. Different announcement tones, different music is played. I love how train number is announced in this video from Xi'an - Zhengzhou.

It looks like the old Xi'an station in the video
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 10:42 AM   #4460
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Ah .. so that's the indirect alignment, wasting time to route through Zhengzhou.
South of Xian, there are Qinling Mountains. Hard to traverse, then only at a slow speed, and few people. A few railways do cross, but surely the short cut via slow speed rail would waste far longer than the high speed line via Zhengzhou.
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