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Old October 5th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #4561
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This map:
http://www.yaohua2000.org/2012/20120...9120120829.jpg
effective 29th of August 2012 (thus Wuhan-Zhengzhou is brown) also depicts a brown line that goes southeast from Tianjin to coast, then turns northeast and goes as far as Qinhuangdao.
Which line is it? Seeing how thick it is, is it the Tianjin-Qinhuangdao 350 km/h line?
Considering it is brown, what is its current state of progress?
I love that totally irrelevant, unnecessary detail on the bottom right.

"Oh by the way guys, we know you were looking at trains and stuff, but we'll remind you anyway that the whole South China Sea is ours. kthxbai."
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Old October 5th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #4562
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I love that totally irrelevant, unnecessary detail on the bottom right.

"Oh by the way guys, we know you were looking at trains and stuff, but we'll remind you anyway that the whole South China Sea is ours. kthxbai."
Those are necessary to display all the atol-HSR en reef-maglevs China is building there.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 12:42 AM   #4563
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This map:
http://www.yaohua2000.org/2012/20120...9120120829.jpg
effective 29th of August 2012 (thus Wuhan-Zhengzhou is brown) also depicts a brown line that goes southeast from Tianjin to coast, then turns northeast and goes as far as Qinhuangdao.
Which line is it? Seeing how thick it is, is it the Tianjin-Qinhuangdao 350 km/h line?
Considering it is brown, what is its current state of progress?
Is there an English translation for that map?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 01:06 AM   #4564
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And just wow @ that map...everything in red is currently under construction, pretty ******* epic.
I was wondering what some of the colors meant. It would be nice to have a good legend for that map since I'm not sure what they all really mean. Maybe it says it all and I can't read the language.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 01:35 AM   #4565
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Legend from top to bottom:

Narrow-gauge railway
Local railway
Single-track railway
Coal special-purpose railway
Single-track electrified railway
Multi-track electrified railway
Multi-track railway

300-350 km/h design speed
200-250 km/h design speed
160-200 km/h design speed
under 160 km/h design speed

Opened after 2008
Tracklaying and debugging
Under construction
Awaiting construction
Planned
Existing line
Electrification renovation

Terminal station
Intermediate station
Existing station
Overtaking station
Underground station
Reserved/future station

Main things are red = under construction, black = existing, blue = opened since 2008, orange = awaiting construction, green = planned
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Old October 5th, 2012, 08:06 AM   #4566
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Thanks so much for that info.

I didn't realize this until recently that CRH trains also run on older rail lines generally with the CRH1, CRH2A,B,E and CRH5's. I don't hear much about the CRH5's but variety of high speed trains China already has is impressive.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #4567
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Brown lines

While red lines are abundant and so are the oranges, the browns are more interesting. When are they due?

The lines in brown are:
Harbin-Shenyang-Dalian (due in December 2012)
Tianjin-Qinhuangdao. So what is its progress on the ground, and when is it due to open?
Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Wuhan. Zhengzhou-Wuhan has since opened; Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou and Beijing-Shijiazhuang are due for December 2012.

Bengbu-Hefei. Any updates as to opening plans?

Nanjing-Hangzhou-Ningbo. When are these currently due to open?

But there are 2 more mysterious brown lines.

One starts south of Changsha and goes a long way southwest.
The other starts from Nanning and goes to coast in two branches.

Has anyone heard of these 2 new railways?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #4568
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And just wow @ that map...everything in red is currently under construction, pretty ******* epic.
Look at the pale orange - that is where the next 15000km is coming from. They intend to put HSR everywhere.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 09:30 AM   #4569
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While red lines are abundant and so are the oranges, the browns are more interesting. When are they due?

The lines in brown are:
Harbin-Shenyang-Dalian (due in December 2012)
Tianjin-Qinhuangdao. So what is its progress on the ground, and when is it due to open?
Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Wuhan. Zhengzhou-Wuhan has since opened; Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou and Beijing-Shijiazhuang are due for December 2012.

Bengbu-Hefei. Any updates as to opening plans?

Nanjing-Hangzhou-Ningbo. When are these currently due to open?

But there are 2 more mysterious brown lines.

One starts south of Changsha and goes a long way southwest.
The other starts from Nanning and goes to coast in two branches.

Has anyone heard of these 2 new railways?
The earliest opening probably will be Hefei-Bengbu, trial operation started on Sept 13th and it's suppose to last one month, then a final opening date will be set, probably in late Oct or early Nov. Nanjing-Hangzhou is under calibration and testing so the schedule is slipping again, I think it'll open early next year.

The mysterious line you mentioned is probably the proposed Gulf of Tonkin line, which starts from Changsha and goes to the southern coast of Guangxi Province, branching off to Nanning, Fangchenggang, and Beihai. It provides an express line to Beijing and Shanghai for Guangxi passengers.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 10:03 AM   #4570
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Look at the pale orange - that is where the next 15000km is coming from. They intend to put HSR everywhere.
Plenty of red, orange and green are single lines, too - slow speed railways.

No part of Gulf of Tonkin railway is "proposed" (green or orange). The part northeast of Nanning is red. But a long stretch is brown. And the spot it joins the Jingguang railway seems to me to be well south of Changsha - a place where a parallel black like also branches, as well as a thin red line to east, orange to west and green to northwest. What place is that?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:16 PM   #4571
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Sanya Railway Station 中国最南端的火车站,我不知道“最南端”英语咋说,不好意思。

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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #4572
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Sanya is beautiful, I wish they'd use wood more often.

Even some of the bigger stations now have lost some of their appeal, they're just so bland.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #4573
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Are there any Zhengzhou - Guangzhou services without changing train in Wuhan or in any toher station?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #4574
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Are there any Zhengzhou - Guangzhou services without changing train in Wuhan or in any toher station?
Yes.
11 direct G trains, taking between 6:22 and 6:42, with 6 to 10 intermediate stops. And 16 direct T and K trains taking between 14:58 and 20:55, with 2 to 17 intermediate stops.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #4575
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Are there any Zhengzhou - Guangzhou services without changing train in Wuhan or in any toher station?
Beyond that. There is Xi'an–Zhengzhou–Wuhan–Guangzhou–Shenzhen service without changing train.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:24 PM   #4576
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #4577
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Thanks for this, I had a great time visiting Sanya for a few days in 2010. I took the bus from Sanya to Haikou and noticed they were building "something" (CRH line) along the way. The bus was a cool experience although it took a long time.

I had no idea what Sanya Station looked like since I flew in from Hong Kong.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #4578
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I love that totally irrelevant, unnecessary detail on the bottom right.

"Oh by the way guys, we know you were looking at trains and stuff, but we'll remind you anyway that the whole South China Sea is ours. kthxbai."
That map is from the future showing future rail lines and future countries. Notice a unified Korea and the lack of a hard border between Russia and China on the eastern side, suggesting an area that will be part of China soon.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #4579
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Legend from top to bottom:

Narrow-gauge railway
Local railway
Single-track railway
Coal special-purpose railway
Single-track electrified railway
Multi-track electrified railway
Multi-track railway

300-350 km/h design speed
200-250 km/h design speed
160-200 km/h design speed
under 160 km/h design speed

Opened after 2008
Tracklaying and debugging
Under construction
Awaiting construction
Planned
Existing line
Electrification renovation

Terminal station
Intermediate station
Existing station
Overtaking station
Underground station
Reserved/future station

Main things are red = under construction, black = existing, blue = opened since 2008, orange = awaiting construction, green = planned
Thanks!
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:54 PM   #4580
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That map is from the future showing future rail lines and future countries. Notice a unified Korea and the lack of a hard border between Russia and China on the eastern side, suggesting an area that will be part of China soon.
It might be new to you, but this has been the official map template for decades. The South China Sea 9-dashed line dates back even before the establishment of the People's Republic.
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