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Old November 30th, 2012, 09:11 PM   #4941
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In which month of 2013 shall Shenzhen-Xiamen high speed railway open?
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Old November 30th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #4942
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Hi Guys!

Could someone help a little Bunny out?

I'll be in HKG between 22.05.2013-30.05.2013. By that time what kind of train options will I have to get to Shanghai? I don't want to fly since I'd like to use the famous chinese HSR network. So I prefer CRH-s. Overnight is also good.
Including overnight, how about this:
Kowloon to Shenzhen Station somehow;
departing at 21:23 on an originating train K636/K637;
after 576 km conventional railway, getting off at 5:49 in Longyan;
(the train continues at 5:56 for Fuzhou)
in the same Longyan Station, connect at 8:25 to an originating train D3136/D3137;
after 1279 km high speed railway, get off at 18:46 in Hongqiao.
(the train continues at 18:52 for Nanjing).

Is it acceptable?

A problem might be that opening of Hangzhou-Ningbo high speed railway may affect the Longyan-Nanjing schedules.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 10:45 AM   #4943
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Harbin-Dalian high-speed train begins operation

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Old December 1st, 2012, 11:41 AM   #4944
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Will this line also be used for trains going from Harbin to Beijing? I'd imagine that's a significantly bigger market than Harbin-Dalian.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 12:50 PM   #4945
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Here is a link to a video on opening ceremony at Harbin West station for Hada HSL.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDgyNDU3NjI0.html

It is quite cold there.

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Old December 1st, 2012, 04:12 PM   #4946
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Has the trip time become known?
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Old December 1st, 2012, 04:50 PM   #4947
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Has the trip time become known?
According to Chinatrainguide.com the travel times between Harbin West and Dalian North range from 5:18 (D1310) to 5:42 (D1304). That makes the highest average speed 174 km/h - slightly slower than the 177 km/h managed by Sapsan 166А on another cold climate route, Moscow–Saint Petersburg. On the other hand, the Sapsan is a non-stop train unlike D1310 which makes five stops.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:25 PM   #4948
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Will this line also be used for trains going from Harbin to Beijing? I'd imagine that's a significantly bigger market than Harbin-Dalian.
I have asked this question here two times already, but nobody seems to have an answer, and I don't read Chinese so I can't find out for myself.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 05:40 PM   #4949
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From there:
Harbin-Beijing: 3 D trains, trip times 7:57 (D28) to 8:04 (D26)
Changchun-Beijing: 6 D trains, trip times 6:29 (D28) to 6:45 (D74)
Dalian-Beijing: 1 D train (D31/D34), trip time 7:37
Jilin-Beijing: 1 D train (D74), trip time 7:28

Harbin-Changchun: 26 D trains, trip times 1:18 (several) to 1:55 (D114/D111)
Harbin-Shenyang: 24 D trains, trip time 2:58 (D1354) to 4:20 (D174)
Harbin-Jilin: 3 D trains, trip time 2:05 (D1382/D1383) to 2:50 (D114/D111)

Changchun-Shenyang: 43 D trains, trip time 1:32 (D102) to 3:05 (D5064)
Changchun-Dalian: 24 D trains, trip time 3:52 (D1310) to 4:25 (D8018)

Jilin-Shenyang: 10 D trains, trip time 2:21 (D8032) to 3:50 (D5064)
Jilin-Dalian: 5 D trains, trip time 4:53 (D8008) to 5:00 (D8020)

Shenyang-Dalian: 39 D trains, trip time 2:07 (D8002) to 2:40 (D8044)
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Old December 1st, 2012, 08:34 PM   #4950
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I have asked this question here two times already, but nobody seems to have an answer, and I don't read Chinese so I can't find out for myself.
Going from BJ to Harbin, one needs go in the East Northeast direction to reach Shenyang on separate
routes, after which it merges into the new Hada line, going North Northeast
to reach Harbin. The BJ to Shenyang line is older and slower. But there are plans for new HSL. Even so, the new Hada line shaves one hour for the BJ to
Harbin trip to about 8 hours.

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Old December 2nd, 2012, 12:40 AM   #4951
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Going from BJ to Harbin, one needs go in the East Northeast direction to reach Shenyang on separate
routes, after which it merges into the new Hada line, going North Northeast
to reach Harbin. The BJ to Shenyang line is older and slower. But there are plans for new HSL. Even so, the new Hada line shaves one hour for the BJ to
Harbin trip to about 8 hours.

Laojang
It didn't "shave" the BJ to Harbin trip. The trip was under 8 hours five years ago. Only Mr. Sheng Gaozu thinks it is honorable to be slow, and ordered all 350 km/h lines run at 300, 250 km/h lines run at 200, 200 km/h lines run at 160. Now with the opening of a new so called "high-speed" rail, the average travel speed is even worse than what it was on old rail track over five years ago. I, as a passenger, must say thank you to Mr. Sheng Gaozu.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 01:07 AM   #4952
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It didn't "shave" the BJ to Harbin trip. The trip was under 8 hours five years ago. Only Mr. Sheng Gaozu thinks it is honorable to be slow, and ordered all 350 km/h lines run at 300, 250 km/h lines run at 200, 200 km/h lines run at 160. Now with the opening of a new so called "high-speed" rail, the average travel speed is even worse than what it was on old rail track over five years ago. I, as a passenger, must say thank you to Mr. Sheng Gaozu.
You are right. But he must step down by March. May be things will change,
let's hope.

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Old December 2nd, 2012, 01:57 AM   #4953
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Harbin-Dalian HSR

During winters, DECEMBER - MARCH it will operate in a "winter mode", with the maximum running speed of 200 km/h. 300 km/h in the "summer mode", during the REST of the YEAR. Accordingly, tickets will be cheaper during the months when the slower winter schedule is in effect.Not slow at all. China is just now entering a new high speed era, creating a great network. "Speed for speed", in the beginning, is just a nonsense.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 02:08 AM   #4954
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 08:57 AM   #4955
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Habin-Dalian HSR opening pictures

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12.1 Habin-Dalian HSR starts operation officially

People attend the launching ceremony of the world's first high-speed railway in areas with extremely low temperature at Dalian North Railway Station in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning Province, Dec. 1, 2012. The railway, which runs through Liaoning, Jilin and Heilongjiang provinces in northeastern China, started operation on Saturday. The railway links Harbin, capital of Heilongjiang , and Dalian, a port city in Liaoning. (Xinhua/Wang Dabin)



A driver works on a high-speed train leaving from Harbin, capital of northeast China's Heilongjiang Province, to Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning Province, Dec. 1, 2012.The world's first high-speed railway in areas with extremely low temperature, which runs through three provinces in northeastern China, started operation on Saturday. (Xinhua/Qi Heng)





Passengers wait to board trains at the Harbin West Railway Station in Harbin, capital of northeast China's Heilongjiang Province, Dec. 1, 2012. The world's first high-speed railway in areas with extremely low temperatures, namely the Hada High-speed Railway which runs through the three provinces in northeast China, started operation on Saturday. The railway links Harbin, capital of Heilongjiang Province, and Dalian, a port city in Liaoning Province. (Xinhua/Wang Song)



A high-speed train leaves the Harbin West Railway Station in Harbin, capital of northeast China's Heilongjiang Province, Dec. 1, 2012. The world's first high-speed railway in areas with extremely low temperatures, namely the Hada High-speed Railway which runs through the three provinces in northeast China, started operation on Saturday. The railway links Harbin, capital of Heilongjiang Province, and Dalian, a port city in Liaoning Province. (Xinhua/Wang Jianwei)





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Old December 2nd, 2012, 09:54 AM   #4956
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Now that South Manchuria High Speed Railway is finally open... is it known on which days, specifically, shall Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang and Shijiazhuang-Beijing high speed railways open for scheduled passenger service?
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 07:43 AM   #4957
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Now that South Manchuria High Speed Railway is finally open... is it known on which days, specifically, shall Zhengzhou-Shijiazhuang and Shijiazhuang-Beijing high speed railways open for scheduled passenger service?
There is no official announcement yet. It usually comes within a week or so of the opening time. But many evidence suggests it will be around 12/21 this year. For instance, the advance ticket sales for many current train services in Shijiazhuan will not go beyond this date, indicating possible change or cancellation.

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Old December 3rd, 2012, 03:58 PM   #4958
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Harbin-Dalian HSR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXJ_bUSQz_Y


200 km/h (4 months - Dec-Mar)

300 km/h (8 months - Apr-Nov)
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 05:55 PM   #4959
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Track laying of the new Mianyang-Chengdu-Leshan PDL started over the weekend. The new line will be 312km long and operate D trains at 200km/h.



http://news.sohu.com/20121202/n359243200.shtml
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Old December 3rd, 2012, 06:10 PM   #4960
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Is this also part of the Chengdu-Xian high speed railway?

Thanks for the video Asia4Asia
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