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Old December 6th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #4981
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Now that it is December 2012, which railway lines are on schedule to open in 2013?

Hangzhou-Ningbo?
Reported for "first half":
http://www.whatsonningbo.com/travel-msg-481.html
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Xiamen-Longhua?
Reported for September.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 06:46 PM   #4982
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Like I have mentioned before, those intercity suburban commuter trains are operated different than normal CRH service as they don't belong to railway bureaus but rather the Chengdu city metro company.
Like transferring from the LIRR to Amtrak in Penn Station...
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Old December 6th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #4983
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The entire journey time between Beijing and Guangzhou will be cut to eight hours from 22 hours.
Cost probably about .46 CNY X 2100 = ~ 966 Yuan, one way, 2nd Class.

You can get cheaper air fare, discounts of 1,000 r/t on Ctrip, but you are in a sardine can.

Those of us who like trains, leg room and seat pitch in 1st Class, will gladly spend an extra few hours and Yuan for a ZGT trip.

The bonus is that if you can afford CRH, that you can probably get a walk-on ticket for 1st, or even 2nd, class during the crazy holiday travel seasons in China. Being able to walk in and get a seat for the train departing in 20 minutes, is worth it.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 07:45 PM   #4984
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Cost probably about .46 CNY X 2100 = ~ 966 Yuan, one way, 2nd Class.
On Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway, 4 D trains operate daily. Of which D365 runs to Fuzhou.

This is 2223 km, and costs RMB 676.

What would a D train Beijing-Guangzhou cost?
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Old December 7th, 2012, 02:29 AM   #4985
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On Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway, 4 D trains operate daily. Of which D365 runs to Fuzhou.

This is 2223 km, and costs RMB 676.

What would a D train Beijing-Guangzhou cost?
According to Guangzhou Daily's article from last month, the ticket price should be 957 RMB for second class and 1,522 RMB for the first class.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 02:50 AM   #4986
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On Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway, 4 D trains operate daily. Of which D365 runs to Fuzhou.

This is 2223 km, and costs RMB 676.

What would a D train Beijing-Guangzhou cost?
Curious, do D trains from Beijing to Shanghai run on the new PDL or conventional track?
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Old December 7th, 2012, 04:22 AM   #4987
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On Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway, 4 D trains operate daily. Of which D365 runs to Fuzhou.

This is 2223 km, and costs RMB 676.

What would a D train Beijing-Guangzhou cost?
My price multiplier is for G trains, and it's usually close if the mileage is known.

D trains would be cheaper, K trains cheaper still.

As velocity drops so does the price.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #4988
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September

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This source:
http://szdaily.sznews.com/html/2012-...nt_2306074.htm
says "at the end of 2013. "

Which source is right?
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Old December 7th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #4989
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This source:
http://szdaily.sznews.com/html/2012-...nt_2306074.htm
says "at the end of 2013. "

Which source is right?
Yours, there's an update on gaotie.cn as well

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Old December 7th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #4990
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Curious, do D trains from Beijing to Shanghai run on the new PDL or conventional track?
There are 7 D trains from Beijing to Shanghai.

Of which 4 - D365 and also D315, D317 and 319 - cover 1318 km, take between 8:07 and 9:08, and make stops like Nanjing South and Kunshan South.

The other 3 - D313, D311 and D321 - cover 1454 or 1461 km, take between 11:43 and 11:48, and make just 2 intermediate stops like Nanjing and Suzhou.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #4991
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Curious, do D trains from Beijing to Shanghai run on the new PDL or conventional track?
I'm fairly certain they run on the PDL.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #4992
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I'm fairly certain they run on the PDL.
How's that? How many G trains a day run on the Beijing-Shanghai PDL? How do they overtake if some D trains have only one or two stops? And what is the old track used for then? Isn't it a 250km/h line anyway?
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Old December 8th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #4993
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How's that? How many G trains a day run on the Beijing-Shanghai PDL?
All the way (Beijing-Shanghai) 37.

D365 makes 14 stops between Beijing and Shanghai.
Tianjin South 7 min
Cangzhou West 25 min (sic! 8:44-9:09)
Jinan West 2 min
Taian 7 min
Qufu East 11 min
Tengzhou East 8 min
Xuzhou East 2 min
Suzhou (Anhui) East 8 min
Bengbu South 1 min
Dingyuan 20 min
Chuzhou 1 min
Nanjing South 2 min
Zhenjiang South 2 min
Wuxi East 1 min
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Old December 8th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #4994
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If there's only 37 G trains on the Shanghai-Beijing HSR, no wonder there is space for slow D Trains.

They'd be running 140 G trains if they were at full capacity
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Old December 8th, 2012, 01:21 AM   #4995
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What is the best website, or maybe through a phone line, for purchasing high-speed train tickets in China? Not only available for Chinese citizens (ID card) but also for foreigners (passport number)? I want to avoid the lines at the station.

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Old December 8th, 2012, 02:19 AM   #4996
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What is the best website, or maybe through a phone line, for purchasing high-speed train tickets in China? Not only available for Chinese citizens (ID card) but also for foreigners (passport number)? I want to avoid the lines at the station.
I think you can just ask the hotel/hostel reception to do it for you. They need the passport number. However you still have to collect the ticket at the station (or perhaps it can be mailed to the hotel?). At least this is how I did it.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 04:12 AM   #4997
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I think you can just ask the hotel/hostel reception to do it for you. They need the passport number. However you still have to collect the ticket at the station (or perhaps it can be mailed to the hotel?). At least this is how I did it.
Yes, they can fetch (or have delivered) your ticket(s). I did this when I was in Beijing.
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Second that, there are lots of railway tickets offices all over the city, the hotel should be able to get a ticket for you quickly.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 08:36 AM   #4999
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I use the ticket offices and ctrip.com to purchase HSR tickets. The MOR official site 12306.cn is hard to use for me so I never go there.
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Now that it is December 2012, which railway lines are on schedule to open in 2013?

Xuzhou-Zhengzhou?
Reported as 2015. Another source claims December 2016.

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