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Old December 26th, 2012, 06:59 AM   #5101
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Another significant aspect of high speed network.

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BEIJING, Dec. 26 (Xinhuanet) -- With the Spring Festival around the corner, many migrant workers are planning to go back home to celebrate with their families. Every year itís hard to get a ticket. With the Beijing to Guangzhou high-speed rail coming to service, will the situation improve?

There are more migrant workers in Guangzhou than any other city in China. Its railway station has faced severe capacity problems.

230,000 passengers use Guangzhou station each day during the travel peak. Itís normal capacity is only 40, 000. 32 million journeys are expected to be made here during the Spring Festival. And migrant workers have always found it extremely hard to buy a ticket.

Now, with the Beijing to Guangzhou high-speed rail coming to service, people say itís much more easier for them to go back home during the Spring Festival.

Migrant worker in Guangzhou said, "In the past, it took more than 20 hours for me to go home. And itís hard to buy tickets. Now booking tickets is very convenient. And if I get on the train in the morning, I can have dinner with my family in the afternoon."

The Beijing to Guangzhou high-speed rail will also help cargo transport.

Cargo delivery has always suffered significant delays to make way for passengers.

Li Zhiyong, Logistics Depít, Shaoguan Steel Company, said, "The railways have only met 40% of our companyís transport needs. We had to rely heavily on roads and highways."

This year, 33 trains will be used for cargo each day. Annual cargo capacity is expected to reach around 88 million tons, five times the amount last year.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 07:06 AM   #5102
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12.26 Beijing-Guangzhou HSR opens for operation: First G801 train departs from Beijing West at 9am quietly



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Old December 26th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #5103
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I wish I can see the larger version of these pics.




Workers struggle to repair the Beijing-Guangzhou railway washed away by flood in 1960.

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Old December 26th, 2012, 07:38 AM   #5104
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Some more pictures from today's Beijing-Guangzhou HSR maiden voyage.

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At Zhengzhou East


Over the Yellow River Bridge near Zhengzhou
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Old December 26th, 2012, 08:17 AM   #5105
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The two spans of the Anqing Yangtze River Bridge was successfully joined on Dec 19th, it has the longest span for any four track suspension bridges in the world. It serves as a crucial river crossing point of the 257km Nanjing-Anqing ICL, which is set to open in July 2014.

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Old December 26th, 2012, 08:27 AM   #5106
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Reference chart of models of trains used on Beijing-Guangzhou HSR.

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Old December 26th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #5107
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Construction of the Zhengzhou-Xuzhou PDL officially started today without any ceremony, staff pledged to maintain schedule and quality control then proceeded to start their various duties.

The line is 361.9km long with a design speed of 350km/h, construction time frame is 48 months. It has no tunnels but over 90% of the line will be on viaducts.

http://finance.chinanews.com/cj/2012.../4438892.shtml

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Old December 26th, 2012, 08:47 AM   #5108
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Which will be next opened after Kwangchow-Peking? Who knows some info?
To Urumchi?
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Old December 26th, 2012, 09:02 AM   #5109
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[QUOTE=hmmwv;98631427]I wish I can see the larger version of these pics.

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Old December 26th, 2012, 10:12 AM   #5110
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Which will be next opened after Kwangchow-Peking? Who knows some info?
To Urumchi?
Nanjing-Hangzhou.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 11:08 AM   #5111
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BBC is reporting a major collapse in one of a soon to be opened HSR lines. Any extra info available about it already - how, why and for how long it will delay the works?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17336130
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Old December 26th, 2012, 11:45 AM   #5112
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Beijing-Shenzhen: 1 train daily. G71 takes 10:05 (8:00 to 18:05), the return G72 is 10:25 (7:56 to 18:21). The price is RMB 940 in second class, RMB 1483 in first class.
Beijing-Guangzhou: 3 trains daily. Starting with G71 (in Guangzhou 17:26), the fastest is the express G79 (trip time 7:59 from 10:00 to 17:59), with 4 stops (Shijiazhuang, Zhengzhou, Wuhan, Changsha), last is G81 (13:05 to 22:22). Price RMB 865/1383.
Beijing-Changsha: 7 G trains daily. Fastest G79 (5:38), total 2 expresses (the other, G83, is 9:00 to 14:40) and 3 milk runs terminating at Changsha (G501 to G505 taking 6:42 to 6:51). Price RMB 651 second class, RMB 1040 first class - but unlike Guangzhou trains, a VIP seat is offered at RMB 1237.
Beijing-Wuhan: seem to be 13 G trains. But what is G801, that seems to have zero headway with G83? The expresses take 4:17, milk trains 5:05 to 5:40. Wuhan terminating G trains are named G5xx, like the ones to Changsha.
Price RMB 522 in second class, RMB 834 in first class, RMB 992 in VIP seat where offered.
Also 4 D trains Beijing-Wuhan. D2031 covers the distance in 7:25, making 17 intermediate stops. Price RMB 381 in second class, RMB 608 in first class. The other 3 D trains, D121 to D125 take 10:07 to 10:13 and also make only 7 to 9 stops, but are cheaper, RMB 267 in second class and RMB 333 in first class.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #5113
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SunFuns

Old news, March 2012!


And that day I wasn't even surprised to know that what happened was
different from what was reported by BBC.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #5114
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Sorry, I didn't look at the date... It appeared today together with an article about Beijing-Guangzhou HSR opening so I assumed it's recent as well
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Old December 26th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #5115
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BBC is reporting a major collapse in one of a soon to be opened HSR lines. Any extra info available about it already - how, why and for how long it will delay the works?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17336130
that's line collapsed by 2mm,it's aready opened.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 04:50 PM   #5116
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That's line "collapsed" by 2mm, it's already opened.
That was a translation problem, the word was closer to 'sank', 'subsided' or 'settled'.

CRH lines have, no surprise, close tolerances. A rail bed can settle 2 or 4 mm before problems occur. That bed settled 2mm and the MOR decided to mobilise and get it re-graded asap.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #5117
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Interesting. We always talk about prices being a huge determining factor in modal share, but never confidence. I'd be interested to see just how common these views are? I'd hazard a guess that, for most travelers, it's convenience > confidence, no?

Also, the price is definitely low (in the context of China, I guess it's not), but I think a Boston - D.C. ticket on the Acela is closer to $150-170, right?

I guess the logic is that, if you have high volume, you can set fares much lower than the actual cost.
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Old December 26th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #5118
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Construction of the Zhengzhou-Xuzhou PDL officially started today without any ceremony, staff pledged to maintain schedule and quality control then proceeded to start their various duties.
This is THE major bottle neck of Eastbound Shanghai-bound traffic. In order to train to Shanghai one can CRH to Zhenghou and then one must wait for the only daily D-train that is always booked solid a week or more in advance, and travels at 'only' 200kph, or take an N, K, T or Z train. Or the sleeper bus.

Currently easiest and cheapest to just hop on a plane from points west.

@hmmv,
Any updated word on the progress of the Xian-Datong PDL completion date? I hear rumours construction has stopped, but the sites appear to me to be finished with pylons, rail bed and safety railings. Next would be ballast-less and rail laying.

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Old December 26th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #5119
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what the hell is a milk train?
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Old December 26th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #5120
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Nanjing-Hangzhou.
Ok, that is small, if there will be more robust?
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