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Old January 13th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #5341
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Probably the Beijing - Shenyang HSR (2014) should be added
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Old January 13th, 2013, 04:10 PM   #5342
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My list of high speed railways that have been reported at 300 km/h or faster and to open by 2015:

Beijing-Chengde-Shenyang 684 km
Panjin-Yingkou 89 km
Hangzhou-Ningbo 152 km
Xian-Baoji 148 km
Hangzhou--Nanchang-Changsha 926 km
Changsha-Guiyang-Kunming 1175 km
Tianjin-Qinhuangdao 261 km
Chengdu-Guiyang 519 km
Guangzhou-Guiyang 857 km
Lanzhou-Xining-Ürümqi 1776 km
Nanjing-Hangzhou 251 km
Beijing-Tangshan 160 km
Chongqing-Wanzhou 250 km
Shenyang-Dandong 208 km
Chengdu-Chongqing 305 km

Which of these have been confirmed to be part of the 1136 km due to open by 2015?

Which of these are confirmed to have been slowed under 300 km/h?

Which of these are confirmed to have been delayed past 2015?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #5343
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According to Wikipedia, there is both a 'national' high speed line between Shanghai and Nanjing (part of the Shanghai - Beijing route) as well as an "intercity" HSL between Shanghai and Nanjing. So, there are really two parallel high speed lines between these cities?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 05:17 PM   #5344
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According to Wikipedia, there is both a 'national' high speed line between Shanghai and Nanjing (part of the Shanghai - Beijing route) as well as an "intercity" HSL between Shanghai and Nanjing. So, there are really two parallel high speed lines between these cities?
There a dedicated line between Shanghai and Nanjing which is parallel to the Shanghai-Beijing line until it the line to Beijing starts to veer north several km after Kunshan South Station.


I think this is right.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 05:34 PM   #5345
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Hi Guys!

When China Train Guide writes "A/C Superfast Train" under the type, what does it mean? Which type of train is it? I'm interested in the following TrainNo.:

http://www.chinatrainguide.com/train...?checi=T38/T35
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Old January 14th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #5346
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Hi Guys!

When China Train Guide writes "A/C Superfast Train" under the type, what does it mean? Which type of train is it? I'm interested in the following TrainNo.:

http://www.chinatrainguide.com/train...?checi=T38/T35
Hi:
It is just a non-high speed T train, which was the fastest train before
the Z train and high speed train era. The average speed is between 90km/h-
100km/h for long distance. "A/C Superfast Train" is a direct translation from Chinese (Kong tiao Te kuai) or air conditioned super fast.

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Old January 14th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #5347
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Hi:
It is just a non-high speed T train, which was the fastest train before
the Z train and high speed train era. The average speed is between 90km/h-
100km/h for long distance. "A/C Superfast Train" is a direct translation from Chinese (Kong tiao Te kuai) or air conditioned super fast.

Laojang
Thank you!

Could you by any chance post a photo of the train?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 07:30 PM   #5348
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Hi Guys!

When China Train Guide writes "A/C Superfast Train" under the type, what does it mean? Which type of train is it? I'm interested in the following TrainNo.:

http://www.chinatrainguide.com/train...?checi=T38/T35
It means air-conditioned and that it operates at about 105 kph average, 120-160kph top speed.

Superfast refers to it in relation to K and N trains. Prior to 2002 this was the fastest and most modern train service in China. Z trains are similar but travel overnight with large numbers of sleeper compartments and berths.

This wording is old, refers to how fast they were compared to NNNN or KNNN trains. Obviously not fast compared to G train-sets in 2013.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 08:04 PM   #5349
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Thank you!

Could you by any chance post a photo of the train?
You are welcome. Here is a picture from Baidu. It is not the best quality,
but it gives an idea what it is. Unfortunately, the link is very long. Hope it works.

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http://image.baidu.com/i?ct=50331648...511&S106&TPjpg
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Old January 15th, 2013, 10:03 AM   #5350
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Old January 15th, 2013, 10:05 AM   #5351
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Old January 15th, 2013, 11:06 AM   #5352
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indoor viaduct wow
Similar structural design princple used to support the 'deck' (roof). Other then the architectural elements, it is a very simple building that can be built economically and quickly. It took only 30 months to build it ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shijiaz...ailway_Station ) !


Photo source: http://scvresources.com/highways/sce...forest_hwy.htm
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Old January 15th, 2013, 11:07 AM   #5353
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Appears to be a little bit larger than XianBei or Zhengzhou, but it is difficult to tell as most of these new stations are 50% open due to future CRH construction.

They are about 500m X 750m, more or less...
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Old January 15th, 2013, 12:44 PM   #5354
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I wouldn't like to change light bulbs in that station...
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Old January 15th, 2013, 02:36 PM   #5355
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I wouldn't like to change light bulbs in that station...
Are they using LED lights so that they don't have to change them often?
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Old January 15th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #5356
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The signage on the roof is utterly hideous, you'd think they'd have figured out a way to support it without the scaffolding
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Old January 15th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #5357
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Are they using LED lights so that they don't have to change them often?
Yes LED or CFL's.
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Old January 16th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #5358
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more pics here

http://fans.railcn.net/thread-96871-1-1.html
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Old January 16th, 2013, 06:04 PM   #5359
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Could the 40000km come from counting the track rather than lines? Wouldn't be the first time I've seen that done.
Nope, it's been stated that total HSR will be 18,000km, the 40,000km figure counts conventional railway.

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Probably the Beijing - Shenyang HSR (2014) should be added
Ha, it's not even funny anymore, Beijing-Shenyang did not pass environmental impact study for three times and when it was finally approved last year residents along the proposed line protested in Beijing so it's on hold again. So far construction hasn't started so it won't open until 2017 at the earliest.

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Which of these have been confirmed to be part of the 1136 km due to open by 2015?

Which of these are confirmed to have been slowed under 300 km/h?

Which of these are confirmed to have been delayed past 2015?
See my previous post, those are the lines as of now confirmed to be opened by 2015. Everything else is set to open pass 2015, none have been downgraded below 300.

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According to Wikipedia, there is both a 'national' high speed line between Shanghai and Nanjing (part of the Shanghai - Beijing route) as well as an "intercity" HSL between Shanghai and Nanjing. So, there are really two parallel high speed lines between these cities?
Technically there are three parallel HSRs between Shanghai and Nanjing. On top of the Shanghai-Nanjing ICL and Beijing-Shanghai HSR, there is the upgraded conventional railway, which allows speed up to 250km/h.

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Thank you!

Could you by any chance post a photo of the train?
T38/35 utilizes Type 25K passenger coaches, here is the Wiki page, it's in Chinese but you can click and see the pictures.
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%...AE%A2%E8%BD%A6
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Old January 16th, 2013, 07:28 PM   #5360
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Technically there are three parallel HSRs between Shanghai and Nanjing. On top of the Shanghai-Nanjing ICL and Beijing-Shanghai HSR, there is the upgraded conventional railway, which allows speed up to 250km/h.


I didn't know that the Beijing-Shanghai HSR went through Nanjing. Which station does it go through in Nanjing? The ICL goes to Nanjing South Station correct?
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