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Old January 16th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #5361
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Harbin-Dalian is a 350km/h HSR.

The following 300-350 G train lines are suppose to open before 2015, please feel free to add if I have missed anything.

Nanjing-Hangzhou 249km
Hangzhou-Ningbo 150km
Panjin-Yingkou 89km
Tianjin-Qinghuangdao 261km
Xian-Baoji 148km
Chongqing-Wanzhou Intercity 239km

Total 1136km

Hangzhou-Changsha 921km but I'm not sure it will be finished before 2015, but at least the section in Jiangxi Province is set to open in 2014, the rest of the line should be completed within 2015.
Then the lines confirmed delayed past 2015 are:
Beijing-Chengde-Shenyang 684 km
Changsha-Guiyang-Kunming 1175 km
Chengdu-Guiyang 519 km
Guangzhou-Guiyang 857 km
Lanzhou-Xining-Ürümqi 1776 km
Beijing-Tangshan 160 km
Shenyang-Dandong 208 km
Chengdu-Chongqing 305 km

Of the lines quoted to open before 2015, which ones shall open in 2013 and which in 2014?
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Old January 16th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #5362
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I didn't know that the Beijing-Shanghai HSR went through Nanjing. Which station does it go through in Nanjing? The ICL goes to Nanjing South Station correct?
It passes through Nanjing South, the ICL goes to both Nanjing Station and Nanjing South.

There is actually a fourth HSR under consideration between Nanjing and Shanghai, it's the Yangtze River HSR that has a modified route to connect cities not connected by the other two PDLs.

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Of the lines quoted to open before 2015, which ones shall open in 2013 and which in 2014?
Nanjing-Hangzhou, Hangzhou-Ningbo, Panjin-Yingkou, and Xi'an-Baoji are set to open this year, while Tianjin-Qinghuangdao will open in 2014. There is a problem with Chongqing-Wanzhou, the speed did reduce to 250km/h with the option to be upgraded to 300km/h. Also it won't open until 2016 so we should disregard that line. Which means we'll have to identify another 239km line to reconcile the numbers..........
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Old January 16th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #5363
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Meanwhile, the rebels in province of Taiwan are starting construction of 4 new high speed rail stations.

Since opening 6 years ago, Taiwan high speed rail has been a 339 km line between Taibei and Zuoying - compare Shanghai-Nanjing 301 km, Wuhan-Changsha 347 km, Beijing-Jinan 406 km, Beijing-Shijiazhuang 277 km.

THSR used to have 6 intermediate stations - average distance between stops thus 48 km, including 86 km without stations between Taichung station and Chiayi station and 94 km between Xinchu and Taichung.

Now, Taiwan is starting works to extend the THSR by 9 km, from Taibei terminus to Nangang Station.

The other 3 stations under construction, however, lie on existing stretches of track - Miaoli between Xinchu and Taichung, and Changhua and Yunlin between Taichung and Chiayi.

After completion of these 4 stations, THSR shall be 348 km long, with average station distance 32 km and longest remaining station distance being 62 km between Chiayi and Tainan.

These 4 stations are due to open sometime in 2015, over 8 years after the line was opened.

How many stations now exist in loyal parts of China on lines of 300 km/h or more? And how many stations are now under construction on high speed railway lines open for through trains?
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Old January 17th, 2013, 01:50 AM   #5364
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Meanwhile, the rebels in province of Taiwan are starting construction of 4 new high speed rail stations.

Since opening 6 years ago, Taiwan high speed rail has been a 339 km line between Taibei and Zuoying - compare Shanghai-Nanjing 301 km, Wuhan-Changsha 347 km, Beijing-Jinan 406 km, Beijing-Shijiazhuang 277 km.

THSR used to have 6 intermediate stations - average distance between stops thus 48 km, including 86 km without stations between Taichung station and Chiayi station and 94 km between Xinchu and Taichung.

Now, Taiwan is starting works to extend the THSR by 9 km, from Taibei terminus to Nangang Station.

The other 3 stations under construction, however, lie on existing stretches of track - Miaoli between Xinchu and Taichung, and Changhua and Yunlin between Taichung and Chiayi.

After completion of these 4 stations, THSR shall be 348 km long, with average station distance 32 km and longest remaining station distance being 62 km between Chiayi and Tainan.

These 4 stations are due to open sometime in 2015, over 8 years after the line was opened.

How many stations now exist in loyal parts of China on lines of 300 km/h or more? And how many stations are now under construction on high speed railway lines open for through trains?
Taiwan actually has its own HSR thread which you can find here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=264509&page=8
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Old January 17th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #5365
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Starting to count the existing stations on 300+ km/h lines.

Beijing-Tianjin - 3: Beijing South, Wuqing and Tianjin.
Beijing-Shanghai - Beijing South is shared with Beijing-Tianjin. Tianjin South is distinct from Tianjin... so 21 stations from Langfang to Hongqiao.
Bengbu-Hefei - how many stations exist on that line?
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Old January 17th, 2013, 11:32 AM   #5366
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What about the Chengdu-Chongqing HSR?

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Old January 17th, 2013, 11:50 AM   #5367
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Ha, it's not even funny anymore, Beijing-Shenyang did not pass environmental impact study for three times and when it was finally approved last year residents along the proposed line protested in Beijing so it's on hold again. So far construction hasn't started so it won't open until 2017 at the earliest.
100 people stop the construction of an important HSR, as
in some parts of western Europe (Turin–Lyon HSR) horrible violence can't do that.

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Old January 17th, 2013, 02:48 PM   #5368
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Old January 17th, 2013, 10:04 PM   #5369
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Meanwhile, the rebels in province of Taiwan are starting construction of 4 new high speed rail stations.
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How many stations now exist in loyal parts of China
If you are trying to be funny: stop, you are not.


If you are serious: keep politics out of this, you're making a fool of yourself.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 06:49 PM   #5370
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Bengbu-Hefei - how many stations exist on that line?
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What about the Chengdu-Chongqing HSR?
It's under construction and is set to open in 2015.

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100 people stop the construction of an important HSR, as
in some parts of western Europe (Turin–Lyon HSR) horrible violence can't do that.
Yup, that has become a trend now, the government is so paranoid about stability that it's willing to postpone major projects to calm public opinions.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 08:22 PM   #5371
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Surprisingly many. Cannot find trains currently scheduled to stop at Xinliufu etc.. What I find in use are Huainan South, Shujiahu, Hefei North, Hefei... nothing besides these 4.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #5372
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It's under construction and is set to open in 2015.

Yup, that has become a trend now, the government is so paranoid about stability that it's willing to postpone major projects to calm public opinions.
It 's funny (but I'm not surprised) because
the representation that is given outside of China's development is exactly
the opposite of what is happening in these cases.

Anyway the Chengdu-Chongqing HSR should be 350 km/h and not 250 km/h.
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Surprisingly many. Cannot find trains currently scheduled to stop at Xinliufu etc.. What I find in use are Huainan South, Shujiahu, Hefei North, Hefei... nothing besides these 4.
Hefei, Hefei North, Shuangdunji, Xiatangji, Shuijiahu, Huainan East, Xinliufu, Bengbu South, Bengbu.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #5374
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Hefei, Hefei North, Shuangdunji, Xiatangji, Shuijiahu, Huainan East, Xinliufu, Bengbu South, Bengbu.
My question is, are any trains actually and currently scheduled to stop at the stations of Shuangdunji, Xiatangji or Xinliufu?
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 02:07 PM   #5375
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Any word on a connecting line from the Xian-Datong line to the Xian-Zhengzhou line, from Linfen through the mountains to San Men Xia?
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 06:41 PM   #5376
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It 's funny (but I'm not surprised) because
the representation that is given outside of China's development is exactly
the opposite of what is happening in these cases.

Anyway the Chengdu-Chongqing HSR should be 350 km/h and not 250 km/h.
I agree with you that the speed should be 350 km/h. For the distance 350 km/h will make a much bigger impact on time saved. Maybe the terrain is too difficult. I've been to Chongqing and I wonder, where is Chongqing's high speed railway station located? Where is the existing station and will Chingqing get a new rail station got high speed or upgrade the current station?

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My question is, are any trains actually and currently scheduled to stop at the stations of Shuangdunji, Xiatangji or Xinliufu?


That's a very good question and I wonder the same thing. On videos I see the train pass these small stations, pretty much a platform with a roof and wonder if a train going 300+ km/h is scheduled to stop at these small stations.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 12:29 AM   #5377
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 02:07 AM   #5378
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Nice diagram. May I add one thing. A line from Nanjing to Hangzhou
will open this year.

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Old January 23rd, 2013, 09:36 AM   #5379
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And I´d immediately add 4 existing things by heart:
Beijing-Tianjin should be double like Shanghai-Nanjing
250 km/h existing lines should include
Changchun-Jilin
Xiamen-Longyan
Nanchang-Jiujiang
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The diagram is not showing duplicate lines on some routes?
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