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Old June 11th, 2013, 06:11 AM   #6041
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Why use the 700 shinkansen as the image? Surely they must have hundreds of stock images of their own trains by now? Wouldn't that be seen as an embarassment?
Oh you should have seen all the pictures of US, Russian and French aircraft carriers been used for headline news when Liaoning was commissioned as China's first aircraft carriers. The truth is, outside of a few nerds of otakus, all trains, buildings, ships and airplane are essentially the same for the general populous. 700 shinkansen is a bullet train, CRH380 is bullet train; to the average Joe, just knowing the difference between bullet trains and regular trains is an accomplishment.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 02:49 PM   #6042
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Really? Perhaps it might be harder to discern differences between aircraft carriers for the common man, but I was under the impression that the CRH was a matter of national pride, and therefore known to most Chinese.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #6043
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Screw it: they both got a blue stripe. :P
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Old June 11th, 2013, 07:21 PM   #6044
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When I first rode on a CRH1 back in 2010, at the time I didn't know it was a CRH1. I just know I was getting on a high speed train from Guangzhou East to Shenzhen, only after the trip did I realize what I was on after viewing these forums.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 09:19 PM   #6045
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So last week I took the train G79 from Beijing Xi to Guangzhou Nan Railway Station. The train took just 7 hours and 59 minutes to cover a whopping 2,298 kilometers and leads to an average speed of 287 kph.

Enjoy the videos!

The first section is Beijing Xi - Shijiazhuang (the video includes commentary about the track and trains):




Second section is Shijiazhuang - Zhengzhou Dong:




Third section is Zhengzhou Dong - Wuhan:




Fourth section is Wuhan - Changsha Nan:




Fifth section is Changsha Nan - Guangzhou Nan:

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Old June 11th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #6046
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Huh?

I thought the old SH-BJ was only upgraded to 200km/h because it still has to run 100km/h freight trains as well.
The line is mostly 200km/h but the Anting section is 250km/h since 2007.

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So last week I took the train G79 from Beijing Xi to Guangzhou Nan Railway Station. The train took just 7 hours and 59 minutes to cover a whopping 2,298 kilometers and leads to an average speed of 287 kph.

Enjoy the videos!
Thanks for the excellent coverage!
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Old June 12th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #6047
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The line is mostly 200km/h but the Anting section is 250km/h since 2007.
After the Sixth Speedup Campaign, in April 2007, the parts of the line fit for 200 km/h were as follows:
Zhoulizhuang–Qingxian - 56,4 km
Jiedi–Changzhuang - 102,8 km
Gaojiaying–Fuliji - 48,4 km
Sůzhou–Tangnanji - 41 km
Zhenjiang South–Benniu - 51,4 km
Kunshan–Shanghai - 47,3 km incl. the 250 km/h section

total - 347,3 km out of 1450
the remaining 1102,7 km were 160 km/h or slower.

How much of Beijing-Shanghai railway has been upgraded from 160 km/h or slower to 200 km/h since 2007?
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Old June 12th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #6048
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doc7austin, that's an awesome trip report, tnx for sharing.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 07:06 AM   #6049
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So last week I took the train G79 from Beijing Xi to Guangzhou Nan Railway Station. The train took just 7 hours and 59 minutes to cover a whopping 2,298 kilometers and leads to an average speed of 287 kph.

Enjoy the videos!
Thanks for taking the time to post. I just finished watching your first video & it was excellent quality. I especially appreciated the comments added to the video explaining locations, opposing trains etc. Once again thanks.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 02:53 PM   #6050
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I too want to visit china..And High speed rail structure is fab just because Chinese are very hard working and very gud in technology...Gud work guys
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Old June 12th, 2013, 04:01 PM   #6051
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So last week I took the train G79 from Beijing Xi to Guangzhou Nan Railway Station. The train took just 7 hours and 59 minutes to cover a whopping 2,298 kilometers and leads to an average speed of 287 kph.

Enjoy the videos!

The first section is Beijing Xi - Shijiazhuang (the video includes commentary about the track and trains):




Second section is Shijiazhuang - Zhengzhou Dong:




Third section is Zhengzhou Dong - Wuhan:




Fourth section is Wuhan - Changsha Nan:




Fifth section is Changsha Nan - Guangzhou Nan:

Impressive. But what about ticket prices?
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Old June 12th, 2013, 04:06 PM   #6052
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Impressive. But what about ticket prices?
Information about ticket prices can be found at 12306.cn, http://chinatrainguide.com/, or http://www.chinatraveldepot.com/ChinaTrains/.
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Thanks. 696 yuan does seem reasonable, cheap even.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #6054
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great film doc7austin.

I just watched all of it now! One thing though. The separated smaller videos are better than the 1-part film due to the comments. Perhaps you can ad comments to the large one too?
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Old June 13th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #6055
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doc7austin those videos are awesome!!!! I find it interesting that the English recorded announcements have an American accent.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 09:34 PM   #6056
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doc those videos are incredibly thorough with your description of which trains are leaving and which train-sets are being relocated.

An amazing job!
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Old June 13th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #6057
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Thanks. 696 yuan does seem reasonable, cheap even.
It is expensive when compared to the old classic N, K, L, T and Z trains. Those can be so cheap it is nearly free, but the cost is low because you spend so much time on them.

Most trips via CRH are 3 to 8 hours and the previous old classic train would take 12 to 36 hours. 18 hours in most cases. Just such a long time.

When a train CRH ZHGT line opens the airfares on that route drop to 120% of the train ticket price.

Fast trains are doubly good in that aspect as cheap discount air fares are now available all over China.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #6058
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@doc7austin

What an epic video report. It was a great pleasure to watch. I'm planning to do a rail trip from Lithuania all the way to Shenzhen next year which will include the Trans Siberian and the Beijing-Guangzhou line. I guess I'll watch this video many more times.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #6059
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Awesome video report. CRH has to be one of the biggest and most awesome achievements of humanity ever to date.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #6060
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Information about ticket prices can be found at 12306.cn, http://chinatrainguide.com/, or http://www.chinatraveldepot.com/ChinaTrains/.
These give contradictory information.

http://www.chinatraveldepot.com/Chin...&ArrCityID=838

finds no G trains whatsoever - only 4 T and one K train.

http://chinatrainguide.com/stntostn.php

duly finds the same 4 T and 1 K train - but also 3 G trains.

But these 696 yuan are NOT the price of CRH train! They are the price of the slow trains - in lower soft sleeper. You can travel Beijing-Guangzhou cheaply, for 251 yuan - in hard seat if you are willing to sit from 20:31 (T15) to 1:05:25 (K599) there.

Chinatrainguide reports the CRH train price as 791 yuan - in second class. And 949 in first class. To recall later, the other prices of slow trains are 426/441/456/666.

Now this:
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...&from1=Beijing

gives the same 5 slow and 3 fast trains, and same schedule.

But prices are different.
The lower prices are the same: 251 yuan for hard seat, 426/441/456 for hard sleeper.
But travelchinaguide gives the prices of soft sleepers as 750/784 - not 666/696, as chinatrainguide

Who is right?

On G trains, likewise. chinatrainguide reports 791/949 for second and first class while travelchinaguide reports 862 for second class, 1380 for first class, and also 2724 for business class.

So what are the real prices?
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