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Old July 7th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #6161
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Nice picture. I never know Dazhou is connected by HSR.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 05:18 PM   #6162
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Nice picture. I never know Dazhou is connected by HSR.
HSR goes from Dazhou via Suining to Chengdu.

When is Suining-Chongqing branch due to open?
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Old July 7th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #6163
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Nice picture. I never know Dazhou is connected by HSR.
From CTrip, I see D trains to Chengdu.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #6164
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A new round of heavy rainfall battered Dazhou on Friday morning, making several trains suspended and late. (Xinhua/Deng Liangkui)

Why.

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Old July 7th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #6165
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I didn't know rain could cause train delays. Why is that?
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Old July 7th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #6166
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Couple trains are late due to quite terrible rain storms and you guys are rebelling ? Sh*t happens on a continent size land mass guys, take it easy Next time they will be more ready for it, hopefully.

And, there is always a solution lol

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Old July 7th, 2013, 10:12 PM   #6167
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Interesting picture, hope most people are ok. I was wondering if heavy downpours cause electric trains to lose contact with the overhead wires or if it was due to flooding over the tracks...or something else.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 05:11 AM   #6168
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This is a severe weather event that caused landslides. You can't safely run high-speed trains if rains have washed out the tracks.

News item for a nearby county :
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/vi..._132517525.htm
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Old July 8th, 2013, 08:32 AM   #6169
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Why.

Probably the same reason you cannot drive as fast in the rain...
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Old July 8th, 2013, 08:36 AM   #6170
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HSR goes from Dazhou via Suining to Chengdu.
I think this was supposed to be the first part of a Chengdu-Suining-Dazhou-Xi'an route that has now been canceled.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 11:43 AM   #6171
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They´ve been slowed down! G20 used to be 4:55, now it is 5:09. G12 and G22 were also 4:55, but they are 5:16 now!
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That is because they added 2 or 3 extra stops such as Wuxi and Taian.
These 2 used to stop only at Nanjing and Jinan. One stop adds 7 minutes.

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Old July 8th, 2013, 07:20 PM   #6172
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http://www.youtube.com/user/periskopspb/videos
Here are some videos from G1 HS-train by russian traveller.

And there is his blog with photos(on russian).
http://periskop.livejournal.com/1043888.html
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Old July 9th, 2013, 12:43 AM   #6173
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I observe that the G number doesn't allow it to go over D train speeds on the coastal route,
the first 800km from Fuzhou to Huzhou are held back to average 152km/hr including stops.
It cranks up to 236km/hr including stops for the 1023km Nanjing to Beijing.
Yes because Coastal HSR is built as a 250km/h line while Nanjing-Beijing was 380km/h.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 08:13 AM   #6174
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I'm sure this has been asked before (probably by me), is the coastal route at a slower speed because of the terrain?
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Old July 9th, 2013, 09:33 AM   #6175
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I'm sure this has been asked before (probably by me), is the coastal route at a slower speed because of the terrain?
Compared to the North China plain, or the land between the rivers, this coastal route is definitely more mountainous, with wide tidal bays and almost fiord-like rivers. Sure the line could have been made faster, but at a cost. There's not a great deal here outside the river ports of Wenzhou and Fuzhou, so most people now have a train where there was nothing before. 200km/hr max sure beats a dirt road bus.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 04:53 PM   #6176
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Thanks for the explanation. I agree that 200km/h is still some serious speed. I've taken some long distance buses in China (example Sanya to Haikou) and they do run pretty slow, at least the one I took was slow.


On a different topic, what is the significance of the city Baoji? From what I've read it seems that the high speed railway between Xi'an and Baoji is significant enough to have it's own construction segment.

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Old July 9th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #6177
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Baoji is located on the ancient North Silk Road, controlling the strategic Qinling Pass southwards to the Han River basin. So it was a logical place during the great railway expansion of the 1950s to place a junction on the main west line with a line south to Sichuan. The country towards Xi'an to the east is open and easy construction, but westwards starts to rise into hills, so it's just a convenient place to stage HSR line construction.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #6178
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There's not a great deal here outside the river ports of Wenzhou and Fuzhou,
There are a number of stations. Between Wenzhou and Fuzhou there are
Ruian
Pingyang
Cangnan
Fuding
Taimushan
Xiapu
Fuan
Ningde
Luoyuan
Lianjiang
Mawei
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so most people now have a train where there was nothing before. 200km/hr max sure beats a dirt road bus.
Yes, but how efficiently does it compete with a bus on a paved highway?
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Yes, but how efficiently does it compete with a bus on a paved highway?
Irrelevant when the said paved highway is flooded.

HSR should have good drainage, that's why I'm asking.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #6180
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There's not a great deal here outside the river ports of Wenzhou and Fuzhou
There are a number of stations. Between Wenzhou and Fuzhou there are
Ruian, Pingyang, Cangnan, Fuding, Taimushan, Xiapu, Fuan, Ningde, Luoyuan, Lianjiang, Mawei
"Not a great deal" was supposed to mean no major centers of commerce or industry. Most of those stations are at mere villages by comparison with the HSR stations out in the China heartland. Also at only 30km apart most trains do not stop at the smaller ones. Because this line is virgin railway territory it is designated as a Mixed Freight and Passenger HSR. Will the major new ports being built at Luoyuan Bay and Fuqing serve local industry, or just be terminii for inland commerce?

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Yes, but how efficiently does it compete with a bus on a paved highway?
Funny you should ask that, because in a fit of evenhandedness the Chinese have built a flash new expressway down this coast parallel to and at the same time as the HSR. Maybe the old roads were better than dirt, but still secondary, winding and hilly. Now modern China gives the people a choice of fast bus or fast train.
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