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Old August 18th, 2013, 07:21 PM   #6341
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China Railway HD Video

Video #1: 2011,Beijing-Shanghai Highspeed Railway, Yangcheng Lake


Video #2: 2011, Highspeed Railway EraⅠ

Video #3: 2011, First experience of High-speed railway

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Old August 18th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #6342
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Nice video, thanks for sharing.
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Old August 19th, 2013, 12:08 PM   #6343
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I have no of questions about hsr trains in china
1) does all chinese hsr trains are air conditioned?

2) does the t train is emu or loco driven just like k trains?

3) does these loco hauled k trains has seperate air conditioned coaches?

4) does all high speed trains runs on dedicated hsr line?

5) which trains are used to carry suburban passengers in major cities in china?

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Old August 19th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #6344
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I have no of questions about hsr trains in china
1) does all chinese hsr trains are air conditioned?
yes

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2) does the t train is emu or loco driven just like k trains?
loco driven

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3) does these loco hauled k trains has seperate air conditioned coaches?
in china, either whole trains are airconed or not. mixed ac and non-ac cars are very rare, except the soft sleeper car on non-ac trains in summer. as of 2012, 99% of all trains are airconed. 95% k trains are air conditioned, most non-ac k trains are found in the northeastern provinces. all t or z trains are air conditioned.

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4) does all high speed trains runs on dedicated hsr line?
no. for where dedicated track not available, hsr trains run on traditional line, at limited speed, of course.

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5) which trains are used to carry suburban passengers in major cities in china?
please define "suburban". before 2008, there were no "suburban" thing in china. the s2 line, opened 2008, in beijing is more of a tourist line than suburban.
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Old August 19th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #6345
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Hello,

I took some photos and videos on my recent trip between Shanghai Hongqiao and Fuzhou South Station with CRH1 train D3107.

At this point I will only cover the newly-opened high-speed railway between Hangzhou East and Ningbo East Station.

The Huhang High-Speed Railway (Shanghai - Hangzhou) and the Ninghang Intercity Railway (Nanjing - Hangzhou) were merging together about 2km northeast of Hangzhou East Railway Station.





Aproaching Hangzhou East:





Hangzhou East Railway Station:







Also classical night trains stop at Hangzhou East (here K112 Guiyang - Shanghai):





Crossing the Qiantang River (the old railway line could be seen as well):





Lots of High-Speed Railway construction of the Hangzhou-Changsha section around Hangzhou:





Beautiful green landscape between Hangzhou and Ningbo:











Inside the CHR1 train, including lunch in First Class:







My train D3107 is resting 19 minutes at Shangyu North according to the train schedule.
During this time two CRH2 trains are overtaking us.

First: Train G7581 Nanjing - Shanghai South - Ningbo East
Second: Train G7507 Shanghai Hongqiao - Ningbo East







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Ningbo East Railway Station:





Spotting three trainsets:
- Left: Train K1248 Ningbo East - Chongqing about to leave
- Center: Train Z32 Ningbo East - Wuhan (Wuchang) resting
- Right: Train G7584 Ningbo East - Changzhou leaving





Some advertising at Ningbo East Railway Station, showcasing the Amtrak Acela Express:





Soon there will be more:



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Old August 19th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #6346
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Nice, but there's something I really don't understand. Of all the trains the flyers can use, why on EARTH would they pick the Acela???
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Old August 19th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #6347
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Nice, but there's something I really don't understand. Of all the trains the flyers can use, why on EARTH would the pick the Acela???
LOL, I know people hold poor little Acela in a pretty low regard but that's just harsh.
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Old August 19th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #6348
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Xian is considered northwest China - maybe at one time it was.

It is interesting that Northwestern University of USA and Northwestern University PRC are both located near the center of the country.
Relatively of historic center. Same in Russia. Moscow located in center.
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Old August 19th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #6349
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Hello,

I took some photos and videos on my recent trip between Shanghai Hongqiao and Fuzhou South Station with CRH1 train D3107.
Great report.

How was the lunch, what exactly it was and how much does it cost?
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Old August 19th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #6350
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Inside the CHR1 train, including lunch in First Class:


Is that a different lunch in first class than others?
How much did you pay for the 绿茶 ?
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Old August 20th, 2013, 12:23 AM   #6351
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Nice, but there's something I really don't understand. Of all the trains the flyers can use, why on EARTH would the pick the Acela???
I bet that the person who made this flyer did not know what the train was in the first place. He/She might just downloaded some random picture from the internet.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 01:05 AM   #6352
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A lot of rail in the past went where the politicians told it to go. An example is the Chengdu - Kunming line surveyed in the 1950s. The shortest route went through the easiest construction country, but the western route was chosen. Detailed survey had revealed that the Panzhihua mineralization was so important the route is the longest and through the most difficult mountains.
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Of course the construction techniques of modern HSR are somewhat improved, but I believe the politics of route choice are still much the same.
You should see the politics of railway route construction in London lol
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Old August 20th, 2013, 06:21 AM   #6353
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Great post doc7austin, I especially like the photo with crisscrossing high speed rail lines around Hangzhou.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 10:31 PM   #6354
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Is that a different lunch in first class than others?
How much did you pay for the 绿茶 ?
IIRC the food trolley sells the same food regardless of class, and of course those meals are purchased at the dining car. I think the tea is ¥5 instead of the normal ¥3.5 store price.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 10:34 PM   #6355
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Hmmmm Yummy

Lunch seems very tasty. I like rice ( together with meat ).

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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:10 AM   #6356
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I think the tea is ¥5 instead of the normal ¥3.5 store price.
It's my version of the Big Mac economic indicator.
I've experienced prices between ¥2 in a supermarket to
¥6 chilled at a tourist park, and that wasn't just a price for the 老外
there were Chinese complaining, but paying.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 01:16 AM   #6357
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Xian is considered northwest China - maybe at one time it was.

It is interesting that Northwestern University of USA and Northwestern University PRC are both located near the center of the country.
That's because most people in China live southeast of Xian, and it's been that way for thousands of years. If you go further north or west of Shaanxi you get into the Gobi desert and some very inhospitable places.

Just like when people talk about "North China" they aren't usually talking about Xingjiang. They're talking about Henan, Shanxi, Jilin, places north of the Yangtze in Eastern China. Eastern China or "China Proper" is the part that is really culturally Chinese. (not that the other regions have not been subject to assimilation over the centuries)

"China Proper" is basically China without the northeast, (Jilin, Liaoning, Heilongjiang) the far west, (Xingjiang, Tibet, Gansu, Ningxia, Qinghai) and Mongolia. (possibly Yunnan too) "China Proper" is where most Han Chinese have lived historically and even now.

And yes U.S. has the same trend in regard to geographical nomenclature: when people talk about the "South," they're not really talking about Arizona, New Mexico, or California. They're talking about the Eastern U.S. because that's where most people lived historically and where most people lived when they came up with these naming conventions.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 02:41 AM   #6358
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That seems about right. Best to eat before you enter the station. These new terminals are like airports, with airport food and airport prices.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 02:55 PM   #6359
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Some photos on the construction of the Hefu passenger-dedicated line (PDL) which will run from Hefei to Fuzhou, passing by Wuhu, Huangshan (Yellow Mountains) and Nanping.
Line was supposed to open in 2014, though, I doubt that.

Photos were taken between Wuhu and Nanjing.







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Old August 21st, 2013, 10:44 PM   #6360
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Probably more a dependency on the monsoon, though the Himalayan run-off will no doubt be important. The map of Indian potential high-speed lines matches the density map somewhat.



More in the Pan-Asian high-speed thread.
I don't think India is going to be like China having High Speed Rail everywhere replacing old train tracks but everything is possible so will see
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