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Old September 16th, 2013, 05:37 AM   #6481
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Are there any info on it? Cause, local people told me before, that province wants to build only traditional railway. & there were no even passenger trains to Funchun. & there is good idea via Girin province, not via Haklonggong.
I only got a couple of images. The railway is 250 km/h design from Jilin to Hunchun.



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Old September 16th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #6482
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Not clear, that is HSR, may of being cargo rail.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 01:52 AM   #6483
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Not clear, that is HSR, may of being cargo rail.
That's the Jilin-Huichun PDL, construction started in Nov 2011 and is scheduled to be completed by Oct 2014. Design speed 250km/h with upgrade option for 300km/h. Its Jilin-Dunhua section is suppose to open next month but is delayed.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 05:59 AM   #6484
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That's the Jilin-Huichun PDL, construction started in Nov 2011 and is scheduled to be completed by Oct 2014. Design speed 250km/h with upgrade option for 300km/h. Its Jilin-Dunhua section is suppose to open next month but is delayed.
Any official proves? Cause no info found. Funchun (Hunchun) is like a village compared to ordinary Chinese towns. Yonggei (Yanji, http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BB%...90%89%E5%B8%82) - is good as to be connected, as I know, 've been there in early 2000 years. Mt. Baktu - is tourist attractions district.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #6485
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Beijing-Dalian geography seems to be uniquely unfavourable for train. It's only 1 h hop over the water...
Dalian is almost perfectly at the midpoint between Beijing and Seoul, but it would be hard for the city to benefit directly from that. 1h to Seoul or Beijing is short for an airhop (long waits at airport, much fuel in takeoff and landing), and water and North Korea is in the way for rail. Sure, it would make a natural stop on a Tianjin-Dalian-Incheon boat line, but the current boats are slow and not very profitable.

As for bridges/tunnels, Lüshun (Port Arthur) - Penglai would be the one to beat across Bohai.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 06:39 PM   #6486
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Low-profile Bombardier riding the rails to success
11 September 2013
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Though President of Bombardier China, Zhang Jianwei is a low-profile businessman. He is rarely in the limelight as he leads the company from strength to strength.

A Canadian manufacturer of both trains and planes, Bombardier Inc is recognized as "one of the most successful foreign companies in the industry" yet it rarely publicizes itself in China.

"We speak less and do more," said Zhang, a native of Shandong province in East China.

The down-to-earth attitude has been the foundation of the company's fast track to success in the world's second-largest economy.

Zhang was sent to develop Bombardier's rail business in China in 1999, four years after he joined the Montreal-based corporation and 12 years after he had left China.

"At that time, I did not have any employee, or even an office in the first months. So I spent days negotiating with customers and nights calling my colleagues back in Canada in my 6-year-old daughter's bedroom.

"My daughter complained because she could not fall asleep. But when I finally moved out my 'office' in her room several months later, she came to complain that she could not fall asleep at night without my telephone conversations in French with colleagues back in Montreal, which had already become her lullaby," said Zhang.

Fourteen years later, Bombardier has four manufacturing joint ventures and seven wholly owned enterprises with more than 4,000 employees across the country, and signs billions of dollars in contracts yearly.

By July, it had already won 13 railway orders this year with more contracts expected, Zhang said. The deals were inked despite the fact the Ministry of Railways, Bombardier's major customer, was dismantled in early 2013.

"China has a huge market for rail transport. So the dismantlement has little impact on our performance as long as we can do well our homework of understanding customer needs and coming up with the solutions."

Zhang stressed the importance of "homework", noting that at least 50 percent of the problems in the Sino-foreign cooperation are caused by miscommunication and misunderstanding instead of conflicts of interest.

'Local roots' strategy

"It is difficult to understand the business practices if we use a Western way," he said. "The culture, the political context, and the business practices are different, let alone the languages."

That was why Bombardier established its "local roots" strategy in 2009, said Zhang. "We form our local team and train local talent. With the local team, we can understand better customer needs and respond faster to market changes."

Along with localization, Zhang said the most important factors for success in China are his company's advanced technology, proven product and respect to commitment.

He added that transfer of technology "is a hot topic in the cooperation between Chinese and Western companies".

"But our cooperation with Chinese partners is much beyond a simple technology transfer. Instead, we have been jointly developing world-class technology with our Chinese partner."

Zhang gave a long list of technology co-development projects in China including the very high-speed train CRH380D produced with Chinese manufacturer CSR in Qingdao, the CSeries fuselage with Aviation Industry Corp of China in Shenyang and the C919 and CSeries with Commercial Aircraft Corp of China in Shanghai.

"Frankly speaking, in the field of railways, Chinese customers are more demanding than their Western peers, but the most important for us is to do well our homework and satisfy their requests."

Zhang admitted that the competition in China is tougher. "We are facing more challenges here than in the international markets, both technically and commercially. But the market is big enough for the coexistence of many players.

"There are so many potential business opportunities, we work very hard to develop the opportunities by focusing on supplying better solutions to the customers."

Partners and rivals

He also talked about cooperation with the competitors.

"In the rail transportation industry, our main partners are also our main competitors. Cooperation and competition coexist.

"For example, both (rail equipment makers) CSR and CNR are our main partners in our joint ventures and in our consortium. They are also our most important competitors in China.

"But we work very well together, we compete with each other, and we seek for complementary advantages, common interests and win-win results in most cases."

Looking ahead, Zhang is very confident in Bombardier's sustainable success in China.

"The market is big - the opportunities are there. We need to understand better and better our customers' needs and focus on satisfying their requests.

"We have a very strong local management team, we have our local technical talent and we have our facilities in China. We are ready to face more challenges."
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Old September 18th, 2013, 02:21 AM   #6488
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Any official proves? Cause no info found. Funchun (Hunchun) is like a village compared to ordinary Chinese towns. Yonggei (Yanji, http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BB%...90%89%E5%B8%82) - is good as to be connected, as I know, 've been there in early 2000 years. Mt. Baktu - is tourist attractions district.
http://hc.jl.cn/a/20110804/526.htm

http://hc.jl.cn/a/20130330/2196.htm
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Old September 18th, 2013, 10:00 AM   #6489
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Old September 18th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #6490
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Funny, slim (simple) characters & mainland Chinese, "that said many, but nothing, main idea is some imagine by yourself". Can anybody help?
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Old September 19th, 2013, 06:17 AM   #6491
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Old September 20th, 2013, 01:41 AM   #6492
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Funny, slim (simple) characters & mainland Chinese, "that said many, but nothing, main idea is some imagine by yourself". Can anybody help?
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Old September 20th, 2013, 02:32 AM   #6493
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Train tickets are hard to purchase around this period because of the mid-autumn holiday and the national day holiday.
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Old September 20th, 2013, 06:31 AM   #6494
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Used to traditional Chinese.
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Old September 20th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #6495
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Tickets now on sale for ChangFu line (Nanchang - Fuzhou) and YongPu (Yongtai - Putian)
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Old September 21st, 2013, 12:32 AM   #6496
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I saw a someone mention the Shenzhen-Dongguan-Guangzhou Regional rapid transit line on another thread and was curious about where it would be built.
Poking around online I found this and wanted to share. So now there will be like 4 fast ways to get from Hong Kong to Guangzhou. 3 by rail and 1 by air.

http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr06-07/chin...b1-573-4-c.pdf

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Old September 23rd, 2013, 01:06 AM   #6498
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I love these shots, following the train through the city. China's rail network is excellent and just keeps getting better!
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 06:15 AM   #6499
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Amazing pictures! And so many blue roofs!
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Old September 24th, 2013, 01:44 PM   #6500
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Speedy Trains Transform China

CHANGSHA, China — The cavernous rail station here for China’s new high-speed trains was nearly deserted when it opened less than four years ago.

Not anymore. Practically every train is sold out, although they leave for cities all over the country every several minutes. Long lines snake back from ticket windows under the 50-foot ceiling of white, gently undulating steel that floats cloudlike over the departure hall. An ambitious construction program will soon nearly double the size of the 16-platform station.

Just five years after China’s high-speed rail system opened, it is carrying nearly twice as many passengers each month as the country’s domestic airline industry. With traffic growing 28 percent a year for the last several years, China’s high-speed rail network will handle more passengers by early next year than the 54 million people a month who board domestic flights in the United States.

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