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Old November 3rd, 2013, 02:13 AM   #6681
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Awesome pictures flankerjun, again. As I wrote repeatedly before, I love construction pictures
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 04:07 AM   #6682
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WUHAN TO GUANGZHOU HSR,through mountains,over rivers ,Nothing can obstruct the rail line


HSR in Guangxi province ,still under testing
Love how everything is growing back around the rail viaduct. I always hated how when just finished it looks like they decimated the place.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 06:32 PM   #6683
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Xinhua Insight: Chinese high-speed trains venture overseas
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BEIJING, Nov. 3 (Xinhua) -- Parallel to the development of domestic high-speed rail, the Chinese government and rail enterprises are actively seeking customers overseas.

In a meeting with a trade ministers from the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) last week, Premier Li Keqiang thanked them for traveling by high-speed train from south China to Beijing, calling it a real "roadshow" for Chinese high-speed trains.

Thailand, an ASEAN member, plans a high-speed rail network in the next seven years to satisfy its business and tourism demands.

On a state visit to Thailand in early October, Li pushed China's willingness to participate in the project, stressing that "railway cooperation can become a new highlight in China-Thailand cooperation". An exhibition of Chinese high-speed rail also kicked off in Bangkok during his visit.

Not only Thailand, countries including the United States, Russia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brazil and Turkey are mooting their own high-speed rail projects. The Australian government has completed a feasibility study into a proposed high-speed rail route along its east coast.

With the world's longest operational line for bullet trains that run at more than 200 km per hour, China wants to take part in projects overseas.

"China's high-speed railway is advanced in technology, safe and reliable, and has a cost advantage," Premier Li told Australian Governor-General Quentin Bryce in a meeting in Beijing in mid-October.

Zhou Li, a senior director at China Railway Corporation, said China had learned by absorbing technology from various countries to create its own technology.

By the end of September, China had nearly 10,000 km of high-speed railway lines in operation and had solved technical challenges on various complex geographical problems.

History of high-speed rail in China is not long. The first line, linking Beijing and the neighboring port city of Tianjin, was inaugurated in August 2008.

On July 23, 2011, 40 people died when a high-speed train hit a stationary train near Wenzhou, casting a shadow over high-speed railways and leading to a nationwide safety check and stagnation of construction.

Last year, China cautiously resumed construction, culminating in the Beijing-Guangzhou link, the longest of its kind in the world.

Wang Mengshu, a member of the Chinese Academy of Engineering and a railway expert, said China stepped up railway system management after the 2011 accident, sticking to construction schedules which guaranteed safety.

"High-speed rail now has a more solid foundation." Wang said.

With public confidence recovering, the comfortable cabins and punctuality of the trains have made it an enormously popular way of travel.

Passenger volume on the Beijing-Shanghai line rose 40 percent during the second year of operations.

Thanks to the domestic success, production and construction on a large scale has lowered costs to about 200 million yuan (33 million U.S. dollars) per km, more competitive than Japan, UK and Germany, according to Wang Mengshu.

Last week, the state-owned train maker, CSR, announced an Italian order meaning Chinese high-speed rail core components are making their way into the European market.

China should become a high-speed train supplier on a more comprehensive level, exporting not only equipment, but also technology and Chinese railway standards, Wang said.

Li Hongchang, railway expert and economics professor from Beijing Jiaotong University, said high-speed rail "going abroad" is anything but simple. It involves juggling trade, finance and energy concerns and requires efforts from governments on both sides, Li said.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 09:00 PM   #6684
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I would be happy if China could build a high speed rail network in Texas...too bad that situation is not very likely.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 10:28 PM   #6685
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It's not obvious there would be a big cost advantage when building abroad and not using Chinese labour to any great extent. Unless of course Chinese government provides soft loans, but in that case there would be political considerations.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 10:53 PM   #6686
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It's not obvious there would be a big cost advantage when building abroad and not using Chinese labour to any great extent. Unless of course Chinese government provides soft loans, but in that case there would be political considerations.
They can do it even in Turkey. Also, ASEAN countries have cheap labor, too.
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Old November 4th, 2013, 09:42 AM   #6687
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Passenger volume on the Beijing-Shanghai line rose 40 percent during the second year of operations.
What happened to the number of trains?
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Old November 4th, 2013, 10:10 AM   #6688
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Are there double decker HS trains in China? There should be...
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Old November 4th, 2013, 01:26 PM   #6689
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Guilin will get high speed rail service? Which line will it be on?
I'm currently in Guilin and as the photos show above it looks like the line traverses some amazing scenery. I think the ride will be worth it for the views alone.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 04:32 AM   #6690
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Are there double decker HS trains in China? There should be...
Have never seen a double-deck CRH train!
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Old November 5th, 2013, 05:05 AM   #6691
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The main reason could be because there aren't any.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 07:26 AM   #6692
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It would be cool to see a double deck CRH train. Are there any plans for it in the future?
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Old November 5th, 2013, 08:49 AM   #6693
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Probably the cheapest way to increase capacity on very busy lines.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #6694
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Probably the cheapest way to increase capacity on very busy lines.
Are the tunnels and the overhead electric wires designed for double-decker trains?

Remember that the trains are wide-body and 400m long, so they're amongst the biggest trains around anyway.

And double-decker trains needs stairs so that uses some space.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 11:47 AM   #6695
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TGV Duplex manages to squeeze 2 decks into 432 cm height, donīt know how. Shinkansen E1 takes 449 cm, and goes into the many tunnels of Tohoku Shinkansen.
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TGV Duplex manages to squeeze 2 decks into 432 cm height, donīt know how. Shinkansen E1 takes 449 cm, and goes into the many tunnels of Tohoku Shinkansen.
Looks like the CRH380D (Bombardier Zefiro) is 416cm high.

Yeah, it does look like they probably can go with double-decker trains if they need to.

So a 16-car 400m trainset could have about 1600 seats.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #6697
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Looks like the CRH380D (Bombardier Zefiro) is 416cm high.

Yeah, it does look like they probably can go with double-decker trains if they need to.

So a 16-car 400m trainset could have about 1600 seats.
And Shinkansen E4 16 car sets have 1634, being the biggest high speed trains anywhere.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 02:23 PM   #6698
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Quick question, does CRH operate any express trains as of yet (i.e. the gaotie from Shanghai to Nanjing stops in Wuxi and other places in between, but is there a train that goes directly to Nanjing, non-stop?)? I've been wondering this for a while.
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Old November 5th, 2013, 02:34 PM   #6699
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Quick question, does CRH operate any express trains as of yet (i.e. the gaotie from Shanghai to Nanjing stops in Wuxi and other places in between, but is there a train that goes directly to Nanjing, non-stop?)? I've been wondering this for a while.
Yes, there are some.
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...11%2F07%2F2013
Nonstop G trains: 5 (G2, G4, G14, G16, G18) - all 1:07
With stops - seems 98 G trains in total.
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And Shinkansen E4 16 car sets have 1634, being the biggest high speed trains anywhere.
Yup.

The E4 looks like a workable model for the duplex CRH train.
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