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Old November 21st, 2013, 08:29 PM   #6801
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The news said that it takes only 4 hours from Hengyang to Nanning,I really doubt it.
Another wild guess, Beijing - Guangzhou looks at a quick glance on a map, the same distance as Beijing-Liuzhou, and depending on number of stops the G trains get to Guangzhou between 8 and 9.5 hours. You only need another hour for a non-stop express (260km on the old line Liuzhou - Nanning).

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The construction of Yun-Gui railway will get started within the year, the operation line being 754 kilometers from Kunming east station to Nanning station,
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The construction of Yun-Gui high-speed railway is to start at the end of this year, with construction period of 6 years and a total investment of 89.9 billion yuan.
Must take time to build those flash new stations in all the little wayside villages
It was only 5 years for 1400km Golmud - Lhasa thru some of the hardest construction conditions
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Old November 21st, 2013, 09:13 PM   #6802
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Another wild guess, Beijing - Guangzhou looks at a quick glance on a map, the same distance as Beijing-Liuzhou,
Hengyang-Guangzhou by old railway - 521 km, by new railway - 473 km. Actually, Hengyang-Guangzhou North on old railway - 494 km; Hengyang East-Guangzhou North on new railway - 428 km

Hengyang-Nanning by old railway - 793 km
Hengyang-Liuzhou by old railway - 538 km
Hengyang-Guilin by old railway - 362 km.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 02:16 AM   #6803
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Another oddity: the HSR line from Hengyang forks southwestwards from the main north-south line 4km south of Hengyangdong, then just before crossing the Xiangjiang it is merged with lines from the old Hengyang central station. Will this line be clogged with local D trains?
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 05:28 AM   #6804
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Simulation of the real load test run begins in Guangxi Coastal HSR Nanning-Qinzhou-Beihai-Fangchenggang on November 22.
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Old November 24th, 2013, 05:57 AM   #6805
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Lanzhou-Xinjiang(Urumqi) HSR in Menyuan,3000 metres above sea level,Qinghai province.

[IMG]http://i42.************/s5isza.jpg[/IMG]

They should use this line for speed record with CRH500. Due to high elevation, air resistance should be significantly less
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Old November 24th, 2013, 04:14 PM   #6806
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Where can one find CRH train times online? I am looking for schedules on the Harbin - Shenyang high speed line. But when I try various online rail planners, I can only find trains which seem much too slow for a high speed line, taking more than 5 hours for about 500 kilometers. Is my assumption correct that CRH trains are not included in those planners?

Can one recognize high speed trains by the train number?

Are there also high speed trains already running between Shenyang and Beijing, on the conventional line?

Thanks a lot.
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Old November 24th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #6807
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Highspeed train bears a prefix 'G' or 'C' (For intercity) before the train number (eg. G1)

There are also 'D' trains, which are about 200km/h



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Old November 24th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #6808
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Where can one find CRH train times online?
Everybody has their own favorite. I find these useful,
http://www.cnvol.com/
http://www.chinatrainguide.com/
http://train.huochepiao.com/

The first two give a list in order of departure time, the fast G trains jumbled in amongst the ordinary.

Edit: I thought huochepiao sorts the list by speed so G trains appear first, but now they're back online it seems not. I have seen one that does.
The official China Rail site is at http://www.12306.cn/mormhweb/ but even if you've passed the imperial exam their user interface is somewhat inscrutable...
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Old November 25th, 2013, 12:42 AM   #6809
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Everybody has their own favorite. I find these useful,
http://www.cnvol.com/
http://www.chinatrainguide.com/
http://train.huochepiao.com/

The first two give a list in order of departure time, the fast G trains jumbled in amongst the ordinary.

Edit: I thought huochepiao sorts the list by speed so G trains appear first, but now they're back online it seems not. I have seen one that does.
The official China Rail site is at http://www.12306.cn/mormhweb/ but even if you've passed the imperial exam their user interface is somewhat inscrutable...
Right now there's maintenance on the website, so it says that I should go all the way to a ticket window to get what I want. lol
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Old November 25th, 2013, 12:43 AM   #6810
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Where can one find CRH train times online? I am looking for schedules on the Harbin - Shenyang high speed line. But when I try various online rail planners, I can only find trains which seem much too slow for a high speed line, taking more than 5 hours for about 500 kilometers. Is my assumption correct that CRH trains are not included in those planners?

Can one recognize high speed trains by the train number?

Are there also high speed trains already running between Shenyang and Beijing, on the conventional line?

Thanks a lot.
I just had a look at that website. You must have selected the older main stations, so you're getting the slower, older trains. The high speed trains stop at new stations like Harbin West.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 03:45 AM   #6811
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If I type in just Harbin and Shenyang trains.china.org is listing trains between Harbin and Harbin East to/from Shenyang and Shenyang North, but missing all the G and D trains from Harbin West. Yet if I type in just Beijing and Guangzhou it gives me all the correct trains from Beijing west/central to Guangzhou south/central/east, with a bonus of some double listings for Guangzhou Nan and for Guangzhou South

If I type in just Harbin and Shenyang huochepiao gives me all the slow trains plus all the D trains from Harbin West, but no G trains. These train finders all seem to be a bit dodgy, which is why it pays to keep a few on hand to crosscheck
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Old November 25th, 2013, 04:12 AM   #6812
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My favourite is:
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains/
This site gives you also information about how many seats/berth are available.
Although the numbers are not always 100% correct (there seems to be a timelag), it is a good indicator.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 08:21 AM   #6813
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Beijing South railway station.

All pics were taken in the very late December 2012.

A small part of tracks.





My favorite CRH 380. Pity that I see them so rarely this time. Only Siemens trains are everywhere.



My train was also Japanese-based but simpler.



All Japanese-based trains have screens protecting the pantographs of the trains from the side wind. That's not the case for Siemens trains by the way.





My train, front part:





Again my Kawasaki or Hitachi (?)



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Leaving the platform.



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Old November 25th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #6814
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Tianjin to Tianjin West tunnel will open on December 1,and Tianjin to Qinhuangdao HSR will open on the same day.At the end of Dec,trains from Northeast to East will be on service.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 05:01 PM   #6815
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Tianjin to Tianjin West tunnel will open on December 1,and Tianjin to Qinhuangdao HSR will open on the same day.At the end of Dec,trains from Northeast to East will be on service.
Where in the East? Will trains travel Harbin-Shenyang-Qinhuangdao-Tianjin-Nanjing-Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Xiamen-Shenzhen next month?
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Old November 25th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #6816
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China, Romania to launch high-speed railway cooperation

BUCHAREST, Nov. 25 (Xinhua) -- Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and his Romanian counterpart Victor Ponta agreed on Monday that their two countries would cooperate in building high-speed railways in Romania.

After their talks, the two leaders also witnessed the signing of series of cooperation agreements, covering such fields as trade, investment and telecommunication, as well as electricity generation.

Li arrived here Monday for an official visit to Romania and a summit with leaders of Central and Eastern European (CEE) countries.
Chinese HSR development is an opportunity for developing countries to have reasonably priced modern transportation infrastructure. I hope more countries take advantage of it.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 10:04 PM   #6817
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Edit: I thought huochepiao sorts the list by speed so G trains appear first, but now they're back online it seems not. I have seen one that does.
The official China Rail site is at http://www.12306.cn/mormhweb/ but even if you've passed the imperial exam their user interface is somewhat inscrutable...
Huochepiao does allow you to sort the the list by travel time; you just click the "Travel Time" column header. Likewise, you can sort by departure time by clicking the "Dept. Time" header and so on.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 11:35 PM   #6818
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Chinese HSR development is an opportunity for developing countries to have reasonably priced modern transportation infrastructure. I hope more countries take advantage of it.
*cough* ...like the United States... *cough*
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Old November 26th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #6819
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*cough* ...like the United States... *cough*
An American friend recently told me that HSR in the United States would face strong opposition from vested interests there, would that be true?
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Old November 26th, 2013, 04:19 AM   #6820
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Where in the East? Will trains travel Harbin-Shenyang-Qinhuangdao-Tianjin-Nanjing-Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Xiamen-Shenzhen next month?
From Shenyang, Changchun or Harbin to Jinan ,Qingdao,Nanjing,Shanghai and Hangzhou
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