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Old December 1st, 2013, 03:15 PM   #6861
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Funny, I see the length quoted as 261 km.

The expectation did not come true: the fastest train is G431, and it takes 1:18, not 1:11.
The fastest slow train now is Z193, which travels 285 km by old railway, and takes 2:32.
What about D trains? Have they been taken off?
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Old December 1st, 2013, 08:15 PM   #6862
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What about D trains? Have they been taken off?
Yes. None left between Tianjin and Manchuria.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 03:26 AM   #6863
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Funny, I see the length quoted as 261 km.

The expectation did not come true: the fastest train is G431, and it takes 1:18, not 1:11.
The fastest slow train now is Z193, which travels 285 km by old railway, and takes 2:32.
By 28th of December, there will be more long distance trains from the south using this new line.
Some of them will cover it in 1:11. because they
will have less stops.

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Old December 2nd, 2013, 06:36 AM   #6864
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12.1 Tianjin-Qinhuangdao HSR opens

287km, 9 stations, speed 300kmph (design speed 350 kmph)





--chinanews.com
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 06:42 AM   #6865
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first train checking in



arriving Binhai Station

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Old December 2nd, 2013, 06:48 AM   #6866
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A new high-speed railway that connects the two northern port cities of Tianjin and Qinhuangdao was put into operation on Sunday, railway authorities said. The railway line extends 287 km and runs through 14 districts and counties in north China's Hebei Province and Tianjin Municipality, with speeds of up to 350 km per hour, according to the Beijing Railway Bureau. The maximum speed will be set at 300 km per hour during the initial stage.

The whole journey with nine stops takes one hour and 35 minutes. The fastest travel time between Tianjin West and Qinhuangdao, with fewer stops, will be one hour and 11 minutes, almost half of the previous time.
Construction of the rail line started on Nov. 8, 2008 and testing began in November 2013.

The Tianjin-Qinghuangdao railway marks that high-speed railway lines in China's northeastern provinces have been linked with the country's high-speed rail network. It also cuts the travel time for passengers traveling between south or east of the country and northeast China provinces. Up till now, China has 34 high-speed rail lines with the length accounting for one tenth of the country's total railway operation mileage.

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The first train on the new Tianjin-Qinhuangdao high-speed railway is ready to go on Sunday
morning (12/1/13). The 287-km line will play a key role in linking up the rail network in
Northeast China with that of North and East China.


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Staff members walk into the high-speed train on trial at the Binhai railway station in Tianjin, north China, Nov. 25, 2013. A new
high-speed railway link that connects the cities including Tianjin and Qinhuangdao in north China will be put into operation
on Dec. 1, 2013 the railway authorities said on Sunday
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 06:55 AM   #6867
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Pity the US High Speed Rail thread has collapsed into a political slanging match
Whether for HSR or anything else, that's usually when the battle is lost. If most (in this case) Americans were pulling together, agreeing to make studies to see which lines would be profitable and which not, which routes would have the best effects and lowest costs, and then decided to pick the low-hanging fruit, they would have functioning HSR wherever that would be now (assuming there *are* profitable lines, which seems likely).

When a project has landed in a political morass, it might be better to leave it for drowned and dead. There are enough people with clout to ensure that even if the project wasn't a failure in the making to begin with, it will be after they have done with it.

Infrastructure projects like these need consistent political support over a number of years, and able managers, otherwise costs will balloon, and quality and user satisfaction will suffer.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 08:31 AM   #6868
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Whether for HSR or anything else, that's usually when the battle is lost. If most (in this case) Americans were pulling together, agreeing to make studies to see which lines would be profitable and which not, which routes would have the best effects and lowest costs, and then decided to pick the low-hanging fruit, they would have functioning HSR wherever that would be now (assuming there *are* profitable lines, which seems likely).

When a project has landed in a political morass, it might be better to leave it for drowned and dead. There are enough people with clout to ensure that even if the project wasn't a failure in the making to begin with, it will be after they have done with it.

Infrastructure projects like these need consistent political support over a number of years, and able managers, otherwise costs will balloon, and quality and user satisfaction will suffer.


Unfortunately I fear you are right, the political process in the west now is often objecting to what somebody else is proposing just to make yourself part of the political debate/process. Mud slinging political ping pong vested interests over the public interest. These people just end up being part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 09:09 AM   #6869
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Is there a thread for the Hong Kong West Kowloon HSR terminus?
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 09:27 AM   #6870
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Is there a thread for the Hong Kong West Kowloon HSR terminus?
Yes, there is:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=506990
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 09:32 AM   #6871
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Is there a thread for the Hong Kong West Kowloon HSR terminus?
Another thread "Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong High Speed Rail": http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...506183&page=43
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 10:40 AM   #6872
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12.1 Tianjin-Qinhuangdao HSR opens

287km, 9 stations, speed 300kmph (design speed 350 kmph)

--chinanews.com
The underground rail link between Tianjin West and Tianjin Railway Station also opened today.

Length: 5 km
Design Speed: 120 kmph
Construction: 2/26/2009 ~ 12/1/2013



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Old December 2nd, 2013, 12:47 PM   #6873
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 12:48 PM   #6874
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Another thread "Guangzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong High Speed Rail": http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...506183&page=43
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 02:34 PM   #6875
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So Qinhuangdao-Tianjin-Tianjin West high speed railway is opened, and on 28th instant direct trains beyond Tianjin shall start.

Which other high speed railways are complete and on schedule to open this month?

Xiamen-Shenzhen?
Hengyuan-Guilin-Nanning?
Nanning-Qinzhou?
Lichuan-Chongqing?
Any others?
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 02:06 AM   #6876
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The underground rail link between Tianjin West and Tianjin Railway Station also opened today.

Length: 5 km
Design Speed: 120 kmph
Construction: 2/26/2009 ~ 12/1/2013



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"Total length: 5.00548km"

Overachievers counting tunnel length accurate to the last centimeter.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 06:37 AM   #6877
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Which other high speed railways are complete and on schedule to open this month?

Hengyuan-Guilin-Nanning?
Didnt we have this discussion two weeks ago?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...65631&page=339
I was talking to people in Nanning, and no one is aware that a high-speed line might open within the next 4 weeks - there is still too much construction going on.
We do not have to reopen this discussion every week.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 10:53 AM   #6878
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- there is still too much construction going on.
It's good to know there is construction going on someplace. This section of the Nanning - Kunming line near Baise had been taken back by the jungle. Zoom out with Google Earth's historic images to see how much is hidden in only two years.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 03:06 PM   #6879
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So the Nanning line appears impossible to complete this month - though no official announcement of delay.

This leaves Shenzhen-Xiamen, Chongqing-Lichuan - and any recently unmentioned lines.
Can anyone confirm a specific date, this month, for Chongqing-Lichuan?
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 04:54 PM   #6880
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So the Nanning line appears impossible to complete this month - though no official announcement of delay.

This leaves Shenzhen-Xiamen, Chongqing-Lichuan - and any recently unmentioned lines.
Can anyone confirm a specific date, this month, for Chongqing-Lichuan?
Xiamen to Shenzhen line Dec 28,Chongqing to Lichuan will open short distance train before Chinese New Year,and long distance train,such as Chongqing to Shanghai,after the Chinese New Year.

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