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Old December 13th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #6981
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Thanks for the great pictures hhzz. That geography should be quite difficult to build a high speed rail route.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #6982
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Thanks for the great pictures hhzz. That geography should be quite difficult to build a high speed rail route.
Right.China is very mountainous and no a high speed rail is easy to be built.

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Old December 13th, 2013, 07:37 PM   #6983
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it's now available on 12306.cn, i.e.

Shanghai Hongqiao - Harbin West, 2287 km, 2nd class, RMB 898
Shanghai Hongqiao - Dalian North, 2nd class, RMB 787
Shanghai Hongqiao - Shenyang North, 2nd class, RMB 732
Shanghai Hongqiao - Changchun West, 2nd class, RMB 824
Shanghai Hongqiao - Tianjin West, G216 and G218, like
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...t&d=2013-12-15

1213 km, 2nd class RMB 513 yuan 5 jiao

Tianjin West - Harbin West, G410, at
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...t&d=2013-12-15

1209 km, 2nd class RMB 408 yuan 5 jiao

total 2422 km, not 2287, price RMB 922.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 08:04 PM   #6984
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Shanghai Hongqiao - Tianjin West, G216 and G218, like
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...t&d=2013-12-15

1213 km, 2nd class RMB 513 yuan 5 jiao

Tianjin West - Harbin West, G410, at
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...t&d=2013-12-15

1209 km, 2nd class RMB 408 yuan 5 jiao

total 2422 km, not 2287, price RMB 922.
No doubt the ticket price is 898,not 922(513.5+408.5)
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Old December 13th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #6985
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More Pictures of Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR from hongdou.
Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR constructions in duyun,Guizhou province.
Thanks for the pix hhzz. I've been tracking this line on Google Earth through some gnarly country. Those photos really bring it to life.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #6986
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What is expected to be first high speed railway to Guiyang to open? Guiyang-Guangzhou, Guiyang-Changsha, Guiyang-Chongqing, Guiyang-Chengdu or Guiyang-Kunming?
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Old December 13th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #6987
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It's scarcely believeable, but the day after Jang Song Taek was led away, China and North Korea signed a deal to form Special Economic Zones along the border. The deal also includes upgrades to North Korean highways, and a 200km/h high speed railway from Shinuiju to Kaesong. Instead of calling them CRH the North Koreans will probably call their trains the Juche and claim the Dear Leader personally oversaw their design. Can anyone imagine the CRH1 in North Korean livery?
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Old December 13th, 2013, 11:45 PM   #6988
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North Korean livery?
Hundreds of photos of the dear leaders taken from different angles all over the sides of the train?
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Old December 14th, 2013, 12:00 AM   #6989
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It's scarcely believeable, but the day after Jang Song Taek was led away, China and North Korea signed a deal to form Special Economic Zones along the border. The deal also includes upgrades to North Korean highways, and a 200km/h high speed railway from Shinuiju to Kaesong.
What are the opening dates of Shenyang-Dandong and Dandong-Kaesong high speed railways respectively?
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Old December 14th, 2013, 12:18 AM   #6990
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Shenyang to Dandong is scheduled for late 2015. And who knows what's going on in North Korea?
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Old December 14th, 2013, 02:01 AM   #6991
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It's scarcely believeable, but the day after Jang Song Taek was led away, China and North Korea signed a deal to form Special Economic Zones along the border. The deal also includes upgrades to North Korean highways, and a 200km/h high speed railway from Shinuiju to Kaesong.
Yes, that was surprising. And just short of the grand prize, Shenyang-Seoul. Will this be a people/cargo line?

Any plans for HSR Dalian-Dandong?
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Old December 14th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #6992
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Doubtful North Korea will publish information about such large projects. State secrets, you see. North Korea even steals the rail cars used by China to deliver aid, and resells them back as scrap metal. How long until a high speed train is pilfered for valuable parts?

Dalian to Dandong is also scheduled to open in 2015. For both passengers and freight, with top speed of 250.
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Old December 14th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #6993
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Please tell me the real distance and the official distance of Shanghai hongqiao-Harbin West.There's nothing to do with Beijing South-Shanghai hongqiao.
The real distance is the number of km the train wheels roll. The official distance is a number that CNR's computer spits out based on where it thinks the stations are, and this is the number used for calculating ticket prices.

Several maps and timetables I posess suggest the difference in distances quoted above may be in large part due to the distance betweem Tianjin South and Tianjin West. They also suggest a HSR train should be able to go Shanghaihongqiao - Harbinxi without passing thru Tianjinxi. 12306.cn is the only online source I can so far find with the schedule for G1204. No distances are quoted, but it claims to go thru Tianjinxi. Go figure
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Old December 14th, 2013, 06:47 AM   #6994
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What is expected to be first high speed railway to Guiyang to open? Guiyang-Guangzhou, Guiyang-Changsha, Guiyang-Chongqing, Guiyang-Chengdu or Guiyang-Kunming?
I would rate the Guiyang/Kunming HSR as the last to open on that list.
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Old December 15th, 2013, 07:17 AM   #6995
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Big-dog has written in the thread about Shanghai public transport that on December 28 China will get more new CRH lines. What will be the figure in kms for the new lines? I guess it's somwhat in the neighborhood of 3000 km of tracks?
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it's now available on 12306.cn, i.e.

Shanghai Hongqiao - Harbin West, 2287 km, 2nd class, RMB 898
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David, is this figure for a brand new line?
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Old December 15th, 2013, 07:33 AM   #6997
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Shanghai Hongqiao - Tianjin West, G216 and G218, like
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...t&d=2013-12-15

1213 km, 2nd class RMB 513 yuan 5 jiao

Tianjin West - Harbin West, G410, at
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...t&d=2013-12-15

1209 km, 2nd class RMB 408 yuan 5 jiao

total 2422 km, not 2287, price RMB 922.
2287 km is the official distance by Harbin Railway Bureau (source)

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David, is this figure for a brand new line?
Not a new built line but some new connections. It goes with existing sections of Beijing-Shanghai, Tianjin-Shanhaiguan, Beijing-Harbin, Harbin-Dalian.
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I see. And is there any info on how many new lines in km are expected on December 28?
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Old December 15th, 2013, 11:06 AM   #6999
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Big-dog has written in the thread about Shanghai public transport that on December 28 China will get more new CRH lines. What will be the figure in kms for the new lines? I guess it's somwhat in the neighborhood of 3000 km of tracks?
How do you get that?
Tianjin West-Qinhuangdao opened on 1st instant already.

On 28th instant, mentioned have been:
Xiamen-Shenzhen (502 km)
Lichuan-Chongqing

What are the last news about the lines:
Hengyang-Guilin-Liuzhou-Nanning-Qinzhou-Beihai
Xian-Baoji

Can any part of these open this month?
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How do you get that?
Tianjin West-Qinhuangdao opened on 1st instant already.

On 28th instant, mentioned have been:
Xiamen-Shenzhen (502 km)
Lichuan-Chongqing

What are the last news about the lines:
Hengyang-Guilin-Liuzhou-Nanning-Qinzhou-Beihai
Xian-Baoji

Can any part of these open this month?
Hengyang-Liuzhou and Liuzhou-Nanning HSR have connected on November 18 at Liuzhou Station.

Guilin-Beijing HSR will open on December 28th and Guilin-Nanning HSR will open on December 30th.

Travel time of Beijing-Nanning will be shortened from 26-hour to around 10-hour.

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