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Old December 27th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #7121
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is the red-dot used for glass breaking? I didn't see that from my HSR experience.
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Old December 27th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #7122
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Considering what is connected to the red dot above, could it be the handle of a window curtain?
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Old December 27th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #7123
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Glassbreaker; the same can be seen on German ICE trains.
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Old December 27th, 2013, 04:07 PM   #7124
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Considering what is connected to the red dot above, could it be the handle of a window curtain?
no, here is the window curtain
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Old December 27th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #7125
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is the red-dot used for glass breaking? I didn't see that from my HSR experience.
This might be post-Wenzhou rolling stock. They must have the glass firmly fixed so it doesn't pop out on impact...
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Old December 28th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #7126
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Several new lines open on December 28th,2013.
1.Xi'an-Baoji
2.Maoming-Zhanjiang
3.Chengdu East-Lichuan(Chongqing-Lichuan)
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From Chinanews.com

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4.Xiamen-Shenzhen
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From Chinanews.com

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5.Guilin-Beijing West(Hengyang-Liuzhou)
(1).

From Chinanews.com

(2).

From guilinlife.com

(3).

From guilinlife.com
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Old December 28th, 2013, 08:11 PM   #7127
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Is there any HS services with sleeper places in China?
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Old December 28th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #7128
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Several new lines open on December 28th,2013.
I like the regional variations in uniform. Those red Dongbei mandarin suits were getting a bit boring
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Old December 29th, 2013, 04:17 AM   #7129
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Is there any HS services with sleeper places in China?
Yes, however, only in daytime services.
HS-lines are closed at night.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 08:23 AM   #7130
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Does Guilin have a new station for high speed operations or does it use an existing railway station. Where is Guilin's railway station located in the city and what is it's name(ex. Guilin East?)?

I've been to Guilin but arrived by air.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #7131
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Several new lines open on December 28th,2013.
1951km new rail were built and opened on Dec 28&30 2013

All of them are running 200+ kmph.
  • Xi'an-Baoji HSR, 167km, opening speed 250 kmph;
  • Chongqing-Lichuan Rail, 287 km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Xiamen-Shenzhen, 514km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Liuzhou-Nanning HSR, 223km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Hengyang-Liuzhou rail, 498km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Nanning-Qinzhou-Fangchenggang rail, 162km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Qinzhou-Beihai rail, 99.5km, opening speed 200 kmph;

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Old December 29th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #7132
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Does Guilin have a new station for high speed operations or does it use an existing railway station. Where is Guilin's railway station located in the city and what is it's name(ex. Guilin East?)?

I've been to Guilin but arrived by air.
There are two stations in Guilin, the "central" one is Guilin, at the south end of the central city area. Guilin North is ~7 km north. There probably is some special Chinese rule about which trains on the Hengyang - Nanning line stop or terminate at either station, but I don't get it... Then ~4km northwest of Guilin North is a bit of construction which looks to me like it could be Guilin West. Newest satellite image appears to be 2011November12. From all the crossovers and turnouts (see also the photo numbered (6) from this post) I'm guessing all thru trains will go via Guilin West, and trains terminating at Guilin might run into the central city. Wild guess tho', just looking at the bottom three pics, or is a hick town like Guilin compelled to use its grubby old station while only the big northern cities get shiny new marble palaces?
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Old December 29th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #7133
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1937km new rail were built and opened on Dec 28 2013

All of them are running 200 kmph.
  • Xi'an-Baoji HSR, 167km, opening speed 250 kmph;
  • Chongqing-Lichuan Rail, 287 km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Xiamen-Shenzhen, 514km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Liuzhou-Nanning HSR, 223km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Hengyang-Liuzhou rail, 498km, opening speed 200 kmph;
  • Nanning-Beihai rail, 197km, opening speed 200 kmph;
Open on December 30,2013:Nanning-Liuzhou-Guilin
Nanning-Qinzhou-Fangchenggang
Nanning-Beihai

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Does Guilin have a new station for high speed operations or does it use an existing railway station. Where is Guilin's railway station located in the city and what is it's name(ex. Guilin East?)?

I've been to Guilin but arrived by air.
It uses an existing station called Guilin railway station(also known as South station) which located in downtown Guilin.Right now,all the trains including the high speed trains start from or stop in Guilin railway station(South station).
Another existing station called North station located in the suburb of Guilin city,I think it will be put into operation again after Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR completed.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 02:11 PM   #7134
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Yes, however, only in daytime services.
HS-lines are closed at night.
Thanks! What types of trains have such coaches? Are there any shots of interior?
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Old December 29th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #7135
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Yes, however, only in daytime services.
HS-lines are closed at night.
Lines are. However, for example between Beijing and Shanghai, there are 3 D trains each night, taking 11:41 and 11:42. For comparison the T train takes 14:48.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 01:28 AM   #7136
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Could somebody clarify if there is a plan to connect Guangzhou-Nanning with HSR? Would it use Guiyang-Guangzhou PDL?
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Old December 30th, 2013, 01:40 AM   #7137
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Could somebody clarify if there is a plan to connect Guangzhou-Nanning with HSR? Would it use Guiyang-Guangzhou PDL?
There is certainly some plan to build a high speed railway Nanning-Wuzhou-Guangzhou. How is its progress?
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Old December 30th, 2013, 02:38 AM   #7138
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There is certainly some plan to build a high speed railway Nanning-Wuzhou-Guangzhou. How is its progress?
I can't see it in Wikipedia amon the list of planned HSR lines. Is there more info on it?

I checked on Chinatrainguide.com and if it's not lying the current fastest train from Guangzhou to Nanning is K365 and K1232 which take approximately 12.5 hours at an average speed of 65km/h. This is quite bad even for the K trains. Also I wonder why there are no T trains on this route? They normally go at 90-100km/h average speed which would be much more reasonable. We're talking of a city of several million inhabitants which has good links with neighboring Vietnam.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 04:30 AM   #7139
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Could somebody clarify if there is a plan to connect Guangzhou-Nanning with HSR? Would it use Guiyang-Guangzhou PDL?
Guangxi section has completed.And there's a CRH2 train under test run between Nanning and Wuzhou several days ago.
Guangdong section is still under construction.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 04:33 AM   #7140
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I can't see it in Wikipedia amon the list of planned HSR lines. Is there more info on it?
Yeah, I get those days when Google & Wikipedia just won't tell me what I want to know
High-speed_rail_in_China describes Guangzhou-Nanning as a Class 1 high speed railway, design speed 250km/hr. There's construction visible on satellite images from as early as 2010, thru Qintang, Guigang, Pingnan.

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Also I wonder why there are no T trains on this route? They normally go at 90-100km/h average speed which would be much more reasonable.
if the line is capable of that speed ...
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