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Old July 4th, 2014, 12:28 PM   #8281
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Another big news - some G trains run not over night but originate at night!

G2583 originates at Beijing South at 2:32 (sic!), reaches Tianjin South at 3:07, departs 3:10 and goes on to reach Shenyang North at 6:37, Changchun West at 7:54 and Harbin West at 9:04!

How do the metros and trolleybuses of Beijing and Tianjin operate at the odd hours of 2...4 AM in order to get on such originating trains?
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Old July 5th, 2014, 10:25 AM   #8282
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Old July 5th, 2014, 12:19 PM   #8283
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How do the metros and trolleybuses of Beijing and Tianjin operate at the odd hours of 2...4 AM in order to get on such originating trains?
Well, passengers would need to take a taxi. But if it rains in Beijing -> no taxi!
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Old July 5th, 2014, 12:47 PM   #8284
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nowadays people use cellphone apps (滴滴 or 快的) to call taxi. you can add a couple of bucks on a busy day so in theory you cannot have a no-taxi day if you use apps.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 05:02 PM   #8285
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Among new connections, Xiamen now has high speed train to Beijing (G166, 12:42, compare K308, 33:14) as well as Chongqing (D2232, 14:57, compare K336, 34:09).

There now seems to be one high speed train Chengdu-Zhengzhou (D2202, 13:30, compare 10 slow trains, 17:36 to 25:55), among the total of 9 D trains Chengdu-Wuhan. D2244 goes to Fuzhou (in 15:47), D2224 to Hangzhou (in 15:00), D628 to Shanghai (in 16:15), as does D2208 (in 14:58), D2238 to Nanchang (in 12:36), D2256 to Nanjing (in 13:15), D2260 and D368 terminate at Wuhan.
The completion of Yichang-Wanxian HSR renovation project enabled D trains from East/central China to Chongqing/Chendu. D2251 from Wuhan-Chongqing takes 6 hour 49 minutes, cutting the travel time half.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #8286
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Nobody walks 10km after getting off a train and if people travel long distance they will save more time by taking HSR.
I know people who have walked from the interstate 4kms into the old town of Pingyao.

Most people alight and have someone pick them up, or they take the city bus, or they take the local shuttles, but occasionally they will walk. I see this on the roadside on occasion. Rice sack full of possessions on back, walking along the road.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 06:38 PM   #8287
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nowadays people use cellphone apps (滴滴 or 快的) to call taxi. you can add a couple of bucks on a busy day so in theory you cannot have a no-taxi day if you use apps.
You are describing Shanghai, not all of China.

People direct dial their taxi in rural China, jitney with 3 others to save money.

There is no app for the smaller tiered cities.

The larger provincial capitals and Tier 2, perhaps most. Below Tier 2, no.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 08:55 PM   #8288
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Bullet train networks growing at high speed
2 July 2014
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China's high-speed bullet trains now make up more than half of the country's railway services.

China Railway Corp, the State-owned rail operator, introduced a new service schedule on Tuesday to meet the booming demand from the public.

The new plan, marking the most significant changes since 2007, puts the number of Chinese passenger trains in service at 4,894, of which 2,660 are CRH high-speed bullet trains running at speeds of more than 200 km per hour.

China has the longest high-speed railway network in the world, with more than 10,000 km in operation. It is also actively promoting Chinese high-speed railway technology to other countries, including Turkey, Thailand, and the United Kingdom.

Workers with the China Railway Corp's transportation bureau have replaced the old plan with the new one in their main servers, and local railway bureaus and stations will rearrange their services and personnel based on the new plan, said Zhu Jianping, deputy head of the bureau's dispatch department.

"The fact that China Railway Corp adjusts its operation plan every six months shows that the nation's rail network is expanding at an unprecedented speed," said Ji Jialun, a railway expert at Beijing Jiaotong University. "Compared with the past, now almost all of the major parts used on our bullet trains are developed and manufactured by Chinese engineers."

He said China has long commanded key technologies in the high-speed rail sector and can produce reliable parts as good as the imported ones.

However, other analysts also warned security must be a top priority.

"Railway operators and authorities must pay more attention to the operational safety as they continue boosting the rail network," said Xu Guangjian, deputy dean of the School of Public Administration and Policy at Renmin University of China.

"In the near future, a bullet train will travel from the ultracold northeastern provinces to eastern coastal regions that have warm and wet weather, which will pose a huge challenge to planning, maintenance and control personnel."

"The new operation plan prioritizes the market's demands and diversifies the services provided for ordinary days and peak periods," Zhu said. "The daily transport capacity of high-speed lines would be increased by 70,000 travelers, 3.8 percent higher than in the past."

The Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway, the busiest route in China, has transported 220 million passengers in the past three years, largely due to the high-speed service.

The country's railways registered 199.7 million passenger trips in May, 20 percent more than in April, marking the biggest monthly rise this year, figures from China Railway Corp showed.

All 18 branches of the company reported growth in passenger traffic, with the Nanning branch in the Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region ranking the highest with a rise of 46.8 percent.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #8289
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Mind boggling. 10 years ago, there was nothing. This progress indicates China's future potential.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 06:16 AM   #8290
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It's a great transformation, and hopefully that means less people flying, so less delays in the congested air corridors.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 07:34 AM   #8291
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I never thought China will have high speed train development this fast. This is very good for China. Development of safe, fast transport is very much needed for a large country with many population such as China. Very great job indeed.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 10:00 AM   #8292
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The completion of Yichang-Wanxian HSR renovation project enabled D trains from East/central China to Chongqing/Chendu. D2251 from Wuhan-Chongqing takes 6 hour 49 minutes, cutting the travel time half.
Not half!

The D trains Wuhan-Chongqing take 6:41 (D2242) to 7:44 (D2236).

Slow speed trains begin at 8:34 (T57).
K trains are, yes, from 14:44 (K1153) to 19:07 (K1268).

Although that T57 runs on the Yichang-Wanzhou high speed railway.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #8293
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China-Turkey high-speed railway

New Silk Road between Europe,Central Asia and China

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The 6,000-km link will start in Xinjiang and pass through Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Iran and Turkey to Bulgaria, said Zhao Xiaogang, former chairman of China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock Co (CSR), a leading Chinese industrial manufacturer and exporter.

Zhao is also an adviser to the China Institute for Innovation and Development Strategy.

Passenger train speeds will reach 200 kph and freight trains 160 kph, Zhao told the daily.

Investment in the line will be about $150 billion, Zhao said, adding that it could be largely finished in 2020 and fully completed by 2030.

"It can be regarded as a new Silk Road," he said.

The pace of railway construction in Xinjiang has increased significantly since September, when Chinese President Xi Jinping raised the idea of a Silk Road economic belt. He proposed reviving the ancient trade route connecting China, Central Asia and Europe.

Zhao also said China is considering a 3,000-km line from Yunnan province that would pass through Laos, Thailand and Malaysia to Singapore.

Total investment would be about $75 billion and the project would boost the GDP of China and related countries by $375 billion. The project could be largely finished in 2020 and fully completed in 2025, he said.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #8294
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What are the expected new HSR lines to open in 2014?
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Old July 7th, 2014, 03:20 AM   #8295
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Passenger train speeds will reach 200 kph and freight trains 160 kph, Zhao told the daily.
200km/h newly built is not high speed.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 09:15 AM   #8296
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I know people who have walked from the interstate 4kms into the old town of Pingyao.

Most people alight and have someone pick them up, or they take the city bus, or they take the local shuttles, but occasionally they will walk. I see this on the roadside on occasion. Rice sack full of possessions on back, walking along the road.
Is it along the verge of the road, or does a sidewalk/light traffic road exist along the road for pedestrians and bicycles?
Same question about the 10 km distance between Pingyao and Pingyao HSR station.

Also, what kind of bicycle parking arrangements are available in new HSR stations like Pingyao?
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Old July 7th, 2014, 09:31 AM   #8297
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What's the financial situation of the high speed railways? Are they making an operating profit, at least?

Taiwan's HSR makes a large operating profit but its high debt service puts it into red.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:40 AM   #8298
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China-Turkey high-speed railway

New Silk Road between Europe,Central Asia and China

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/mor...&NewsCatID=359
Reposted it in ASIA | Pan Asian Railway
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Old July 7th, 2014, 11:16 AM   #8299
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Pakistan Railways

can any one write review on our (Pakistan ) railways?
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Old July 7th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #8300
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200km/h newly built is not high speed.
By definition it is, whether you agree or not.
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