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Old December 10th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #841
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I found quite some information.

The distance Changsha-Wuchang is 362 km. A schedule can be found at:
http://www.chinatravelguide.com/ctgw...Submit1=submit

The fastest train is D150, and it covers the distance in 3:09, with 3 intermediate stops (Yueyang, Chibi, Xianning).

There are 54 trains total in a day. 24 of them are T trains, which take roughly 3:24 to 4:00

A lot of trains stop in Changsha at odd hours of night, passing through and picking up passengers.

The number trains are generally the slowest. Mostly taking about 5 hours. The exception is train number 1804, which takes about 6 and a half hours.

What shall the trip time be from 28th of December?
A non-stop train should be able to do it in a maximum of 90minutes.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 01:04 AM   #842
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One key difference between China and Europe is that China is still in the midst of rapid urbanization process. Most European cities have been fairly established while most Chinese cities are still evolving. Witness the expanding metropolitan areas of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and many other cities in China.

The dilemma that the Chinese city planners face is that if you build a brand new railway station close to the center of the city, you're going to be limited by space and you would have to move a lot of people around the area. It is hugely disruptive and expensive for such a rail station. Typically, a Chinese city already has a railway station near the city center serving the existing lines. China is developing a high-speed rail network across the country on completely new tracks. This gives the Chinese city planners an opportunity to plan and map out new and expanded urban areas to facilitate the development. The local governments are using this opportunity to develop a new area in suburb and sell the appreciating land, thus recouping the investment in infrastructure.

Take an extreme example. Guangzhou's commercial center has shifted to the Tianhe area from the old city center due to new development over the last 20 years. The new Guangzhou railway station is pretty far from both old city center and the Tianhe district. But a new and large development area will emerge around the new railway station, serving Guangzhou and its surrounding region. Similarly, Shanghai is planning massive development projects around the Hongqiao railway station (and Hongqiao Airport). The Hongqiao transport hub will be at the center of a commercial and residential area and will serve the nearby Yangtze River Delta. It is also a different development zone oriented toward domestic market from the Pudong area east of Huangpu River more oriented toward finance and international trade.

In fact, for many large Chinese cities, multiple railway stations exist or are planned around the different areas around the city to serve the population around them. Beijing have five railway stations; Shanghai has four; Guangzhou has three.

The highway rail network in China will ultimately shape the Chinese social and economic landscape profoundly. We will witness the huge changes over the next 10-20 years.
Just to add to the comments above:

London (10 smaller stations) or Paris (7? stations) have multiple stations, so it is not uncommon as the cities then grew around them. It is also much more expensive (in terms of land acquisition) and slower to build in the dense city centre, in comparison to the less built-up areas that exist 5-15km away.

Also China is still only 50% urban, so there are still 600million+ people who will move into the new city districts that are planned.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 06:39 PM   #843
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Old December 10th, 2009, 08:48 PM   #844
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393km/h nice video... Is this on Wuhan-Guangzhou line?
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:11 PM   #845
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World's fastest train unveiled in China

As China's economy and population expand, so do its transport needs. Although car ownership is on the increase, the Government is investing more in the railways.

China now has the fastest train in the world. It runs from the central city of Wuhan down to the south coast, at a speed of more than 380km/h.

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Old December 10th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #846
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380++ was a TEST RUN

the train HAS TO be safe at 350+10%
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Old December 11th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #847
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380++ was a TEST RUN

the train HAS TO be safe at 350+10%
I like how the cigarette kept standing upright That's a smooth ride
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Old December 11th, 2009, 02:29 AM   #848
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I think UD2 is Taiwanese. I guess.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 02:53 AM   #849
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Wuhan Railway Station Lighting Test

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Old December 11th, 2009, 07:41 AM   #850
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A Experience Travel Route for Journalist

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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:13 PM   #851
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WHAT A BIG STATION! Hows the Guangzhou one doing?
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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:17 PM   #852
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Seems like China is addicted to building infrastructure and each new railway station keeps getting better and better. Shanghai South Railway station, then Beijing's massive station, then Changsha, now Wuhan and soon Guangzhou, very impressive.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 12:35 PM   #853
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New Guangzhou Railway Station(South Station) have not completed.

CRH Wuhan-Guangzhou will use the old Guangzhou Railway Staion until next year.

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Old December 11th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #854
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wuhan-guangzhou HSR video:http://bbs.hasea.com/thread-420331-1-1.html
most funny part: farmer and her two cute kids
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:08 PM   #855
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wuhan-guangzhou HSR video:http://bbs.hasea.com/thread-420331-1-1.html
most funny part: farmer and her two cute kids
lol in China farmers wear jeans and cardigan in the farm ?
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:31 PM   #856
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Is 968 km from new Wuchang station to old Guangzhou station, or to new Guangzhou station?
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Is 968 km from new Wuchang station to old Guangzhou station, or to new Guangzhou station?
It should be 968km of new railway track, so that would mean the new stations then
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Old December 12th, 2009, 05:40 AM   #858
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Due to delays with the Guangzhou South Station, trains on this line will originate/terminate at Guangzhou North/Huadu Station until January 30, 2010.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 12:11 PM   #859
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It should be 968km of new railway track, so that would mean the new stations then
Guangzhou on old railway
Guangzhou South on new railway
Guangzhou North on both railways

Wuhan - Guangzhou North = 922 km
Wuhan - Guangzhou South = 968 km
Wuhan - Guangzhou North - Guangzhou = 949 km
Wuchang - Guangzhou = 1069 km
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Old December 12th, 2009, 01:27 PM   #860
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Due to delays with the Guangzhou South Station, trains on this line will originate/terminate at Guangzhou North/Huadu Station until January 30, 2010.
Shall any trains on new line pass beyond Guangzhou North station, whether to Guangzhou Old station, Shenzhen, Kowloon, Zhuhai, Haian or elsewhere?
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