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Old November 17th, 2014, 03:48 AM   #8741
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it will run 300km/h in the future,after all this line has a curve of 7000m,but that will be in the long long …future.
Sorry I edited my previous post. So what about the actual commercial service speed? Will it run at 250km/h or only 200km/h? Some D services do run at 250km/h on 350km/h lines.

And why not run 300km/h services anyway? That must be the only 350km/h line that will not run trains at 300km/h in China. Are they not expecting enough demand for more expensive and faster G service? Lack of 350km/h rolling stock? What other reasons?
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Old November 17th, 2014, 03:51 AM   #8742
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Sorry I edited my previous post. So what about the actual commercial service speed? Will it run at 250km/h? Some D services do run at 250km/h on 350km/h lines.

And why not run 300km/h services anyway? That must be the only 350km/h line that will not run trains at 300km/h in China.
200,not 250.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 09:09 AM   #8743
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Sorry I edited my previous post. So what about the actual commercial service speed? Will it run at 250km/h or only 200km/h? Some D services do run at 250km/h on 350km/h lines.

And why not run 300km/h services anyway? That must be the only 350km/h line that will not run trains at 300km/h in China. Are they not expecting enough demand for more expensive and faster G service? Lack of 350km/h rolling stock? What other reasons?
As I know,there're 3 types of speed do the bullet trains run in China.
G train:308~310km/h
D train: (1).247~250km/h
Taiyuan-Xi'an,Xi'an-Baoji ......etc.

(2).207~210km/h
Lanzhou-Urumqi,Naning-Qinzhou-Fangchenggang .....etc.

1.Urumqi-Hami

2.Urumqi-Hami
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:04 AM   #8744
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The bullet trains services will be launched for the first time between Huhhot and Baotou in Inner Mongolia at the end of this year or early 2015.

1.CRH5 at Huhhot station,Inner Mongolia


2.CRH workshop in Huhhot,Inner Mongolia


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Old November 17th, 2014, 12:27 PM   #8745
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(2).207~210km/h
Lanzhou-Urumqi,Naning-Qinzhou-Fangchenggang .....etc.
So, when in next month, Lanzhou-Hami-Urumqi shall open, what shall be the best trip time Lanzhou-Urumqi?
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Old November 17th, 2014, 02:06 PM   #8746
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China High Speed Rail network is truly amazing. No doubt about that.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 02:39 PM   #8747
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Sorry I edited my previous post. So what about the actual commercial service speed? Will it run at 250km/h or only 200km/h? Some D services do run at 250km/h on 350km/h lines.

And why not run 300km/h services anyway? That must be the only 350km/h line that will not run trains at 300km/h in China. Are they not expecting enough demand for more expensive and faster G service? Lack of 350km/h rolling stock? What other reasons?
The physical railway infrastructure is built to 350km/h standards, but the signalling system is 250km/h, which is just...
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Old November 17th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #8748
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The bullet trains services will be launched for the first time between Huhhot and Baotou in Inner Mongolia at the end of this year or early 2015.

1.CRH5 at Huhhot station,Inner Mongolia


2.CRH workshop in Huhhot,Inner Mongolia


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I love the CRH5, my second favorite CRH train after the CRH3C(CRH380B). Is the Jingbao Railway a high speed PDL or an upgraded conventional railway? So many new high speed railways lines are opening in China I can hardly keep up.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #8749
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I love the CRH5, my second favorite CRH train after the CRH3C(CRH380B). Is the Jingbao Railway a high speed PDL or an upgraded conventional railway? So many new high speed railways lines are opening in China I can hardly keep up.
this line is a upgrated line.and on Dec 10,there will be a big adjustment for the China railway,the new HSR Guangzhou to Nanning,Guangzhou to Guiyang.new trains such as Harbin to Wuhan,and many long distance conventional trains
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Old November 17th, 2014, 08:41 PM   #8750
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on Dec 10,there will be a big adjustment for the China railway,the new HSR Guangzhou to Nanning,Guangzhou to Guiyang.new trains such as Harbin to Wuhan
Which way does it go? Beijing - Beijing West - Wuhan? Tianjin-Baoding-Wuhan? Or Tianjin-Bengbu-Hefei-Wuhan?
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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:35 AM   #8751
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The physical railway infrastructure is built to 350km/h standards, but the signalling system is 250km/h, which is just...
As long as it has minimum 7000m turn radius, it is all good. Signaling can be upgraded rather easily.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:36 AM   #8752
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I wish there was a higher res one of this image. It is a great one showing both energy and transport infrastructure.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:59 AM   #8753
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I was on the first train D8602.



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5 provinces do not have bullet train service as of 2014:
* Inner Mongolia: will get it in 2015
* Yunnan: 2015
* Ningxia: currently no plan
* Tibet: no plan
* Macau: too tiny for a station, but zhuhai station is within walking distance on the border

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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:41 AM   #8754
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5 provinces do not have bullet train service as of 2014:
* Inner Mongolia: will get it in 2015
* Yunnan: 2015
* Ningxia: currently no plan
* Tibet: no plan
* Macau: too tiny for a station, but zhuhai station is within walking distance on the border
Of which only Yunnan is a province.
How is the current state of HSR service to special administrative region of Hong Kong? Any updates for the high speed railway Shenzhen North Station-Futian Station? And do any trains travel slow speed railway Kowloon-Shenzhen-Guangzhou-Guangzhou North to cross over to high speed line at Guangzhou North station and continue to Changsha South and beyond?
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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:46 AM   #8755
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5 provinces do not have bullet train service as of 2014:
* Inner Mongolia: will get it in 2015
* Yunnan: 2015
* Ningxia: currently no plan
* Tibet: no plan
* Macau: too tiny for a station, but zhuhai station is within walking distance on the border
Since you include Macau i'd also like to point out that Hong Kong does not have HSR services as of 2014.
The West Kowloon terminus is currently under construction and should be ready within the next 2 years. (Futian station in downtown Shenzhen is not open yet either)
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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:52 AM   #8756
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Since you include Macau i'd also like to point out that Hong Kong does not have HSR services as of 2014.
There is no high speed line. Do any CRH trains run on the slow speed East Rail Line?
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Old November 18th, 2014, 01:24 PM   #8757
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I was on the first train D8602.



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5 provinces do not have bullet train service as of 2014:
* Inner Mongolia: will get it in 2015
* Yunnan: 2015
* Ningxia: currently no plan
* Tibet: no plan
* Macau: too tiny for a station, but zhuhai station is within walking distance on the border
How fast does the train can run?
200? 205? 210km/h?
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Old November 18th, 2014, 02:29 PM   #8758
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There is no high speed line. Do any CRH trains run on the slow speed East Rail Line?
Certainly not. All CRH services terminate at Shenzhen station (Luohu port). Is there even a technical capability to run electric trains from Mainland China on Hong Kong tracks?

As for Hong Kong HSR link the latest was that it's got something like 60% chance of getting completed in 2017. So it's 2017 or 2018 from what we know today. A bit bizarre given that it was meant to be ready in 2015. Hong Kong really needs it asap.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 03:09 PM   #8759
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Is there even a technical capability to run electric trains from Mainland China on Hong Kong tracks?
The Beijing-Kowloon Through Train uses an SS8 electric locomotive between Kowloon and Guangzhou East.
Then between Guangzhou East and Beijing it uses an SS9 electric locomotive.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 05:54 PM   #8760
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Actually never believe what the media said,they know nothing,some journalists think once they complete the construction,you can take the train.the Urumqi station is still in construction,how could it be opened in Otc.
How DID it open? What is the current state of Urumqi Station?
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