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Old November 18th, 2014, 06:37 PM   #8761
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I was on the first train D8602.

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I can't wait to check this out. Looks like a beautiful ride, much better than driving unless I'm driving at 200 km/h.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 02:27 PM   #8762
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Shenyang-Fushun will open bullet train service on Dec 10,though it is not new
built HSR,only 160km/h,but it will only take 30min from Shenyang to Fsuhun,and 5 years later,bullet train service will cover all the cities in Liaoning Province.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 04:41 PM   #8763
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and 5 years later,bullet train service will cover all the cities in Liaoning Province.
The cities of Liaoning are:
  1. Shenyang
  2. Xinmin
  3. Chaoyang
  4. Beipiao
  5. Lingyuan
  6. Fuxin
  7. Tieling
  8. Diaobingshan
  9. Kaiyuan
  10. Benxi
  11. Liaoyang
  12. Dengta
  13. Anshan
  14. Haicheng
  15. Dandong
  16. Fengcheng
  17. Donggang
  18. Dalian
  19. Wafangdian
  20. Pulandian
  21. Zhuanghe
  22. Yingkou
  23. Dashiqiao
  24. Gaizhou
  25. Panjin
  26. Jinzhou
  27. Linghai
  28. Beizhen
  29. Huludao
  30. Xingcheng

Which of these already (November 2014) have HSR service?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 04:48 PM   #8764
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The cities of Liaoning are:
  1. Shenyang
  2. Xinmin
  3. Chaoyang
  4. Beipiao
  5. Lingyuan
  6. Fuxin
  7. Tieling
  8. Diaobingshan
  9. Kaiyuan
  10. Benxi
  11. Liaoyang
  12. Dengta
  13. Anshan
  14. Haicheng
  15. Dandong
  16. Fengcheng
  17. Donggang
  18. Dalian
  19. Wafangdian
  20. Pulandian
  21. Zhuanghe
  22. Yingkou
  23. Dashiqiao
  24. Gaizhou
  25. Panjin
  26. Jinzhou
  27. Linghai
  28. Beizhen
  29. Huludao
  30. Xingcheng

Which of these already (November 2014) have HSR service?
there are only 14 cities in Liaoning,most places you list are just some big town,except for Chaoyang,Fuxin,Benxi and Dantong,others all have HSR service,but HSR is under construction in those 4 cities.Beijing -Shenyang line and Shenyang Dandong line.open in 2019 and 2015.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 05:41 PM   #8765
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New rail lines to halve journey time from Guangzhou to Shanghai
Guangzhou to Shanghai will be reduced from 16 hours to eight hours, while the journey from Guangzhou to Hangzhou, Zhejiang, would take about seven hours
PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 19 November, 2014, 5:33pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 19 November, 2014, 8:13pm
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http://www.scmp.com/news/china/artic...gzhou-shanghai

A new high-speed railway line is set to connect Guangzhou and Shanghai in just eight hours by the end of this year, according to Guangzhou Railway Group.

The official website of regional railway bureau announced on Tuesday that new rail routes connecting the Pearl River Delta to 15 other provinces would be launched on December 10th.

It means the trip from Guangzhou to Shanghai will be reduced from 16 hours to eight hours, while the journey from Guangzhou to Hangzhou, Zhejiang, would take about seven hours, according to a report by Southern Metropolis Daily on Wednesday. The report did not disclose the speed of the trains.

However, the trains are not expected to be the fastest on the mainland. The line that opened in 2012 links Guangzhou and Beijing – almost twice as far as Shanghai – in just eight hours at 300 km/h.

New sections of track will also join Guangzhou and Shangrao in Jiangxi province.

Other new routes will cut travel time from Guangzhou to Guiyang, the capital of Guizhou province, from 20 hours to just five hours. The journey to scenic Guilin in Guangxi province to Guangzhou will take about four hours.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 06:23 PM   #8766
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Is it the new route via Changsha? Is Beijing really 'almost twice as far' as Shanghai from Guangzhou?

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Old November 19th, 2014, 09:41 PM   #8767
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The first high speed rail in Xinjiang(Urumqi-Hami)officially open today in Northwest China.The rest part (Lanzhou-Hami) will open next month.

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Curious, why Wulumuqi instead of Urumqi for the spelling of the name. I looked up Wulumuqi on Google and Urumqi popped up.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 12:28 AM   #8768
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Curious, why Wulumuqi instead of Urumqi for the spelling of the name. I looked up Wulumuqi on Google and Urumqi popped up.
The former is the Pinyin of the Chinese name for the city. The latter is the direct transliteration from Uyghur.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 03:16 AM   #8769
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Using pinyin in the station name is very confusing to foreigners especially when they concatenate the city name with the geographic location. Wulumuqinan literally means Ürümqi South, which is much easier to comprehend.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 01:15 PM   #8770
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Is it the new route via Changsha? Is Beijing really 'almost twice as far' as Shanghai from Guangzhou?
Hardly.

But I cannot find how far Shanghai from Guangzhou is.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangha...-Speed_Railway
Sections are supposed to be:
Shanghai-Hangzhou 150 km
Hangzhou-Changsha 933 km
Changsha-Kunming 1175 km
total supposed to be 2066 km.
But this does not add up: the total of the sections is 2258 km, not 2066 km.
Then what is the correct distance Changsha-Shanghai via the new high speed railway through Nanchang?
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Old November 20th, 2014, 01:57 PM   #8771
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The former is the Pinyin of the Chinese name for the city. The latter is the direct transliteration from Uyghur.
The name “Urumqi” is from Mongolian, not Uyghur.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:46 PM   #8772
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The first high speed rail in Xinjiang(Urumqi-Hami)officially open today in Northwest China.The rest part (Lanzhou-Hami) will open next month.

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The new "hsr" station in Wulumuqi is not ready yet?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/43...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

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Old November 20th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #8773
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Hardly.

But I cannot find how far Shanghai from Guangzhou is.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangha...-Speed_Railway
Sections are supposed to be:
Shanghai-Hangzhou 150 km
Hangzhou-Changsha 933 km
Changsha-Kunming 1175 km
total supposed to be 2066 km.
But this does not add up: the total of the sections is 2258 km, not 2066 km.
Then what is the correct distance Changsha-Shanghai via the new high speed railway through Nanchang?
Hardly? What? Are you saying this service is not going to be via Changsha?
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Old November 20th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #8774
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Using pinyin in the station name is very confusing to foreigners especially when they concatenate the city name with the geographic location. Wulumuqinan literally means Ürümqi South, which is much easier to comprehend.
Not really that confusing I mean Japan and South Korea does it too with romaji and romaja foreigners gets by fine with it.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 11:08 PM   #8775
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The new "hsr" station in Wulumuqi is not ready yet?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/43...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
This is Wulumuqi South station vs Wulumuqi station.

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Using pinyin in the station name is very confusing to foreigners especially when they concatenate the city name with the geographic location. Wulumuqinan literally means Ürümqi South, which is much easier to comprehend.
I thought it would be easier for foreigners when asking locals for directions to the station.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 11:11 PM   #8776
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The reason with the confusing is because of the renaming

Old Wulumuqi → Wulumuqinan
Ergong → Wulumuqi (not open)
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Old November 20th, 2014, 11:17 PM   #8777
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I didn't know the names were changed. Interesting. What is Ergong, the name of the neighborhood?
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Old November 20th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #8778
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I didn't know the names were changed. Interesting. What is Ergong, the name of the neighborhood?
二宫站 / Ergong Station not sure if its the name of the neighborhood it was a station in middle of nowhere.
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Old November 21st, 2014, 12:35 AM   #8779
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Hardly? What? Are you saying this service is not going to be via Changsha?
No. I am saying that the distance Guangzhou-Beijing is hardly almost twice as much as Guangzhou-Shanghai.

The true distance Guangzhou South-Changsha South is 620 km. (The official distance 707 km is the distance along the old railway Guangzhou-Changsha).

The distance Changsha South-Nanchang West is fairly sure to be 342 km.

So a total of 962 km Guangzhou South-Nanchang West (a few km less than Guangzhou South-Wuhan).

But I have not been able to find sure and reliable numbers for the distance Nanchang West-Hangzhou-Shanghai. I do, however, suspect the distance to be so long that the distance Guangzhou-Beijing, although still longer than Guangzhou-Shanghai, is not nearly twice as long.

So, does anyone know the length of Nanchang-Hangzhou high speed railway?
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Old November 21st, 2014, 08:38 AM   #8780
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Will there be any G services between Shenzhen and Shanghai via the same new route?
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