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Old January 2nd, 2015, 12:05 PM   #8921
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu...-Speed_Railway
Apparently there is a Chengdu - Guangzhou HSR (in which the Guangzhou - Guiyang section was just opened) under construction, I presume this line will pass through Chongqing. Some forum posts mentioned this line will be operational in 2015.

Consider also the Chengdu - Chongqing Intercity line will also become operational in 2015
I thought that line would continue to Kunming or perhaps it would do that as well.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 03:40 PM   #8922
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sadly not a HSR but a conventional line will be built in addition to the existing one. It has just passed the environmental study and construction has yet to start.

It is expected that this new line will be built and operational before 2020. The existing Chengdu - Kunming line is 1098km, but the new line will only be 737km with effective rerouting. Designed speed is 160km/h, and will take 5 hours from Chengdu to Kunming

http://news.gaotie.cn/tielu/2014-10-12/189658.html
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 04:23 PM   #8923
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Jimo-Rongcheng HSR opened


Jimo-Rongcheng HSR is the major part of Qingdao-Rongcheng HSR. Now only Qingdao-Jimo part is under construction (opening early 2015). Connetion line to Qingdao-Jinan HSR is opened on the same day.

Qingdao-Rongcheng HSR:
Length: 299.18km
Design speed: 250km/h
Looks like there are 6 high speed trains daily Jinan-Rongcheng: 4 D trains originate at Jinan, 2 G trains from 1 from Beijing and 1 from Shanghai. Trip time from Jinan 4:21 to 4:43, price second class 196 yuan 5 jiao, first class 236 yuan, business class where offered 589 yuan 5 jiao.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 10:19 PM   #8924
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HSR Futian station

http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2015..._127353593.htm

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Old January 4th, 2015, 02:07 AM   #8925
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Plunging fuel price (as in airlines) vs HSR

Here is an interesting news: http://hzdaily.hangzhou.com.cn/mrsb/...nt_1873940.htm

Because of the plunge of the oil price, authorities/airlines have adjusted the airline fuel surcharge downwards 5 times since September 2014, and the fifth adjustment will be applied 5 January, 2015 at:

travel distance > 800km: 60 yuan (Sept 2014, adjusted from 120 to 110 yuan)
travel distance < 800km: 30 yuan (Oct 2014, adjusted from 60 to 50 yuan)

Then they take the cheapest air ticket on 6th January and compare with same day HSR ticket from Hangzhou to Beijing, price of the air ticket is less than half of the HSR ticket:

HSR 2nd class ticket HZ - BJ: 538.5 yuan
Cheapest air ticket HZ - BJ: 230 yuan (ticket 150, airport tariff 50, and fuel surcharge 30)

Apparently they made a mistake when calculating air ticket price. HZ - BJ is >1300km, and they applied fuel surcharge price of <800km. If correct fuel surcharge is applied, it should be 150+50+60 = 260 yuan

It's interesting to see how long the oil price will stay this low and if it will affect people's travel patterns and choices in terms of air/HSR.


Upper half of the picture: fuel surcharge adjustments in 2013 and 2014
Lower half: comparison of HSR and air ticket prices as of November 2014, green is cheapest air ticket available, light green is 2nd class HSR tickets, from left to right: Beijing - Nanjing, Beijing - Hefei, Beijing - Shanghai, Beijing - Wuhan, Beijing - Changsha, Beijing - Shenzhen

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Old January 5th, 2015, 06:06 AM   #8926
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The plan of second HSR between Beijing and Shijiazhuang announced, the Beijing - Shijiazhuang PDL will be operate at speed of 300km/h, from Beijing West to New Zhengding station

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Old January 5th, 2015, 10:58 AM   #8927
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The plan of second HSR between Beijing and Shijiazhuang announced, the Beijing - Shijiazhuang PDL will be operate at speed of 300km/h, from Beijing West to New Zhengding station
What are the red striped lines?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 12:07 AM   #8928
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Is it safe to say that the underground connection between Beijing Railway Station and Beijing West Railway Station did not open in 2014?

http://www.thenanfang.com/blog/beiji...train-express/
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Old January 6th, 2015, 10:58 AM   #8929
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Western HSR

Initial discussion of a new HSR through the western region, possible route:
Baotou (Inner Mongolia) - Yan'an (Shaanxi) - Xi'an (Shannxi) - Zhangjiajie (Hunan) - Guilin (Guangxi) - Hankou (Hainan)

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2015-01-05/020631359422.shtml
http://city.ifeng.com/a/20150106/416820_0.shtml
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Old January 7th, 2015, 03:44 AM   #8930
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On that route you could take a train from Yulin to Yulin ^_^
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Old January 7th, 2015, 05:36 AM   #8931
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Is it safe to say that the underground connection between Beijing Railway Station and Beijing West Railway Station did not open in 2014?

http://www.thenanfang.com/blog/beiji...train-express/
I'm don't seem to fully understand how this underground connection is supposed to work. Are CRH and conventional trains supposed to use it to continue through Beijing or is it a short metro line connecting the two stations?
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Old January 7th, 2015, 05:59 AM   #8932
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I'm don't seem to fully understand how this underground connection is supposed to work. Are CRH and conventional trains supposed to use it to continue through Beijing or is it a short metro line connecting the two stations?
It's not known how this is marketed or if it's even a hoax like the straddle bus. It pops up in the media now and then and was supposed to open 3 years ago:


http://www.cctv.com/english/special/...9/103579.shtml

The following was also written not too long ago:

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Tip: The underground direct line connecting Beijing Railway Station and Beijing West is scheduled to open on December 26th, 2014. Then passengers will be able to transfer between the two stations in about 10 minutes. Trains running on Beijing-Guangzhou and Beijing-Kowloon Railways can stop at either station, so do those to/from northeast China. Measuring 5.69 miles (9.15 kilometers) long, the line runs westward from Beijing Railway Station, goes under ground at the end of Chongwen Gate Triangle Land, passes by Qianmen, Xuanwu Gate, Heavenly Tranquility Temple (Tianning Temple) and East Lianhuachi Road, and finally reaches West Railway Station.
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/chin...st-station.htm

If true, then this is nearly on the scale of London's Crossrail, but the radio silence suggests that something has gone horribly wrong.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 06:09 AM   #8933
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Thanks for the informative post, now I understand why I was confused!
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Old January 7th, 2015, 11:02 AM   #8934
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The plan of second HSR between Beijing and Shijiazhuang announced
It would make a lot of sense if this line runs through the Bejing New Airport that is under construction
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Old January 7th, 2015, 04:33 PM   #8935
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On that route you could take a train from Yulin to Yulin ^_^
You can already take a train from Suzhou to Suzhou.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 11:48 PM   #8936
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My video of Beijing-Guangzhou on G79 (taken in November 2014)

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Old January 10th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #8937
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A cool toy: Maintenance train for high speed rail lines:

















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Old January 11th, 2015, 01:07 AM   #8938
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Cool! Is it diesel + electric?
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Old January 11th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #8939
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Cool! Is it diesel + electric?
I would guess it's diesel only... the pantograph should be there only for maintenance
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Old January 11th, 2015, 06:04 PM   #8940
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What's the top speed? 160km/h I suppose?
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