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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:10 AM   #9101
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Lanzhou-Urumqi HSR,March 10,2015

CRH380A train comes to Xinjiang.

This's the CRH380A train runs on Lanzhou-Urumqi line for the first time.

1.Hami,Xinjiang

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Old March 12th, 2015, 05:29 PM   #9102
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Checking from that:
Yes.
As for population:
Qinghe District - 530 000 people, density 4071
Qingpu District - 330 000 people, density 1120
Clearly over half a million in a genuine urban centre.

As for rail: Huaian is on Xinyi-Changxing railway.
Single track. Opened in 2005. Crosses Yangtze by ferry between Jingjiang and Jiangyin.

Hm... would the Changxing-Xinyi route be a sensible path for a second parallel Shanghai-Beijing high speed railway?
Too early to tell about JingHu second HSR, although there are several 250km/h HSR already under construction or will start the construction very soon in north JiangSu Province, namely XuSuHuaiYan(徐宿淮盐), LianHuaiYangZhen(连淮扬镇), LianYan(连盐), YanTong(盐通), HuTong(沪通).
Don't know if they will mainly serve for regional traffic or be able to divert some traffic away from XuzhouBengbu(徐州蚌埠) section of JingHu HSR.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #9103
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although there are several 250km/h HSR already under construction or will start the construction very soon in north JiangSu Province, namely XuSuHuaiYan(徐宿淮盐), LianHuaiYangZhen(连淮扬镇), LianYan(连盐), YanTong(盐通), HuTong(沪通).
Which of these five are already under construction, and where do they go?
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Don't know if they will mainly serve for regional traffic or be able to divert some traffic away from XuzhouBengbu(徐州蚌埠) section of JingHu HSR.
Trains, or passengers?

Will there be people who now travel a long way to the nearest HSR station, who will be diverted when HSR is opened nearby?
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Old March 13th, 2015, 01:23 AM   #9104
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Which of these five are already under construction, and where do they go?
2,3,5 started, 1,4 this year

When all fininshed, they will connect most towns and cities in north Jiansu Province with Shanghai and Zhenjiang(镇江)(then Nanjing).


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Trains, or passengers?

Will there be people who now travel a long way to the nearest HSR station, who will be diverted when HSR is opened nearby?
All these new railways are dedicated passenger lines.
Xuzhou to Bengbu section is the most congested section along Jinghu HSR, whether these new lines will create more new passengers for the Jinghu HSR or divert some existing passenger to the new lines still to be seen.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 01:32 AM   #9105
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"On board Guiguang(贵广) HSR CRH2A train" copyright Chan Louis



Video covering Zhaoqing East(肇庆东) to Huaiji(怀集)

Date:2014/12/26
Train:D2806次(Guangzhou South→Guiyang North)

Aided by Google Map, the timeline as follows:
https://goo.gl/maps/abDe3
During the first minute, 200km/h NanGuang(南广) railway running alongside then turning away to the southwest
01:48 entering 8051 metres long Beilingshan(北岭山) tunnel at 140km/h
you can skip to 04:25
04:25 exiting the tunnel, average speed 185km/h
06:58 Chan Louis anouncing current speed 242km/h
A few short tunnels and two long(3km+) tunnels

https://goo.gl/maps/oEUAC
11:26 Shijian(石涧) viaduct over G55 expressway(二广高速), running alongside till 12:12
13:08 crossing over Xunjiang(绥江) river

https://goo.gl/maps/CrOjR
14:16 passing through Guangning(广宁) station

https://goo.gl/maps/2qKHt

15:21 - 15:36 passing southern edge of Guangning city(can't see from this side the train), 15:29 passing over S350 road leading to citycentre
15:43 entering a short tunnel then 3km long Jinding(金顶) tunnel? followed by 5.2km tunnel

after 5 short tunnels

https://goo.gl/maps/KTdfz
18:53 crossing over Gushui(古水) river

13 short tunnels closely followed by each other

https://goo.gl/maps/lPyQh
21:90 passing Aozai(坳仔) town crossing over S263 road
9 short tunnels

https://goo.gl/maps/HHWfe
22:47 crossing over Xuijiang(绥江) river second time
5 short and close-followed tunnels

https://goo.gl/maps/CAo0a
24:48 approuching Huaiji(怀集) station, 25:03 crossing over the slip road linking G55 and S263(leading to Huaiji towncentre)

28:24 fully stopped at Huaiji station,
Last 4.5km took over 3.5 minutes, maybe a very relaxing timetable was adopted at the early stage of the service.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 01:51 AM   #9106
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"On board Guiguang(贵广) HSR CRH2A train" copyright Chan Louis



Huaiji(怀集) to Hezhou(贺州)
Date:2014/12/26
Train:D2806次(Guangzhou South→Guiyang North)
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Old March 13th, 2015, 01:56 AM   #9107
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Hezhou(贺州) to somewhere halfway between Zhongshan West(钟山西) and Gongcheng(恭城)
Seems most time the train's running at about 245km/h
Date:2014/12/26
Train:D2806次(Guangzhou South→Guiyang North)

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"On board Guiguang(贵广) HSR CRH2A train" copyright Chan Louis

Return journey



Guilin North(桂林北) to Yangshuo(阳朔)
Date:2014/12/29
Train:D2805次(Guiyang North→Guangzhou South)
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Old March 13th, 2015, 02:32 AM   #9109
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"On board Guiguang(贵广) HSR CRH2A train" copyright Chan Louis

Return journey



Hezhou(贺州) to Guangning(广宁)
Date:2014/12/29
Train:D2805次(Guiyang North→Guangzhou South)
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Old March 13th, 2015, 05:37 AM   #9110
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Videos like these are the best part of these threads. I've taken a bus from Yangshuo to Guilin, I'm sure the train is much safer and less scary than the bus!
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Old March 13th, 2015, 06:32 AM   #9111
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Strange claim. If the number hasn't been messed up, then either a different way to calculate city population was used or our "Salesman" premier knows little about ongoing HSR construction and planning.
Except it's not true, just media been stupid. Here is from the actual report

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增加公共产品有效投资。确保完成“十二五”规划重点建设任务,启动实施一批新的重大工程项目。主要是:棚户区和危房改造、城市地下管网等民生项目,中西部铁路和公路、内河航道等重大交通项目,水利、高标准农田等农业项目,信息、电力、油气等重大网络项目,清洁能源及油气矿产资源保障项目,传统产业技术改造等项目,节能环保和生态建设项目。

  今年中央预算内投资增加到4776亿元,但政府不唱“独角戏”,要更大激发民间投资活力,引导社会资本投向更多领域。铁路投资要保持在8000亿元以上,新投产里程8000公里以上,在全国基本实现高速公路电子不停车收费联网,使交通真正成为发展的先行官。重大水利工程已开工的57个项目要加快建设,今年再开工27个项目,在建重大水利工程投资规模超过8000亿元。棚改、铁路、水利等投资多箭齐发,重点向中西部地区倾斜,使巨大的内需得到更多释放。

  加快推进农业现代化。坚持“三农”重中之重地位不动摇,加快转变农业发展方式,让农业更强、农民更富、农村更美。

  今年粮食产量要稳定在1.1万亿斤以上,保障粮食安全和主要农产品供给。
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http://finance.sina.com.cn/china/hgj...21651935.shtml
And you can what the video of the report, the bit about railroad is at 1:00:30



No where in there was the and there claims about connecting all cities above 500,000.

So where did that thing come from.....

Here is a news article"summarizing" the work report:

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根据政府工作报告规划,今年我国的铁路投资要保持在8000亿元以上,新投产里程8000公里以上,2015年中国高铁将连通所有人口50万以上城市,形成一张覆盖全国的高速铁路网。
Here is where connecting all cities above 500,000 came from a "summary" that add things that wasn't in the report itself. Which is understandable for someone making this mistake. Since it's long boring ass report, and I would made that mistake too had I been tasked to fish out sound bites from it, however what's bad is it's been cited all over the place, even though it was never in the report itself. This just shows how many journalists actually read/listened through the full report to fact check before hitting the copy-paste buttons.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 10:45 AM   #9112
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2,3,5 started, 1,4 this year

When all fininshed, they will connect most towns and cities in north Jiansu Province with Shanghai and Zhenjiang(镇江)(then Nanjing).
"Lianhuaiyangzhen", "Lianyan", "HuTong". Where specifically do they go?

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All these new railways are dedicated passenger lines.
Xuzhou to Bengbu section is the most congested section along Jinghu HSR, whether these new lines will create more new passengers for the Jinghu HSR or divert some existing passenger to the new lines still to be seen.
How can they create more passengers to Jinghu? Where do they go to Jinghu HSR?
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Old March 13th, 2015, 04:30 PM   #9113
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Except it's not true, just media been stupid. Here is from the actual report


http://finance.sina.com.cn/china/hgj...21651935.shtml
And you can what the video of the report, the bit about railroad is at 1:00:30



No where in there was the and there claims about connecting all cities above 500,000.

So where did that thing come from.....

Here is a news article"summarizing" the work report:



Here is where connecting all cities above 500,000 came from a "summary" that add things that wasn't in the report itself. Which is understandable for someone making this mistake. Since it's long boring ass report, and I would made that mistake too had I been tasked to fish out sound bites from it, however what's bad is it's been cited all over the place, even though it was never in the report itself. This just shows how many journalists actually read/listened through the full report to fact check before hitting the copy-paste buttons.
Thanks for the clarification. It beggars belief the media not only put words into the premier's mouth also lacks basic knowledge and common sense.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #9114
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"Lianhuaiyangzhen", "Lianyan", "HuTong". Where specifically do they go?

A picture is worth a thousand words
It's bit outdated, but giving you a basic idea.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 03:58 AM   #9115
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Video covering Zhaoqing East(肇庆东) to Huaiji(怀集)

Date:2014/12/26
Train:D2806次(Guangzhou South→Guiyang North)

Aided by Google Map, the timeline as follows:
Updated timeline and Google Map references.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 05:47 AM   #9116
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All provinces will be covered by HSR, Yinchuan - Xi'an HSR to commence construction later this year

http://www.nx.xinhuanet.com/2015-03/14/c_1114637901.htm

NDRC approved the project:
Length: 595 km
Investment: 16 billion yuan
Designed speed: not mentioned
Expected completion date: not mentioned
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Old March 14th, 2015, 06:41 AM   #9117
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http://www.nx.xinhuanet.com/2015-03/14/c_1114637901.htm

NDRC approved the project:
Length: 595 km
Investment: 16 billion yuan
Designed speed: not mentioned
Expected completion date: not mentioned
From a lot information floating around on the web, it's most likely 250km/h with ballasted tracks.
I suspect 16 billion yuan investment only covering 185km within Ninxia.
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Sino-Thai accord reached on rail project engineering

Sino-Thai accord reached on rail project engineering
By ZHAO YANRONG (China Daily)
Updated: 2015-03-14 08:32
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A view of a railway track in Honghe Prefecture, Yunnan province, in a 2014 file photo. The station dating back to 1910s is said to be one of China's oldest railway stations. [Photo/IC]


China and Thailand are to cooperate on a prominent form of contracting agreement relating to building a railway linking the two countries.
The agreement, known as an engineering procurement construction pattern, will cover a standard gauge dual-track system.

Further details on investment and funding are likely to be finalized in May, Thai officials said.

The two delegations met this week in Nong Khai in northeastern Thailand for the third round of talks on the Sino-Thai railway cooperation project.

Reports said officials visited Nong Khai to inspect locations for the project. Nong Khai province has high potential to become an interchange for passengers connecting between trains from Kunming in southwestern China to services running to Vientiane, the capital of Laos.

The long-anticipated project, which will see trains running at up to 180 km an hour, has been postponed because of political turbulence in Thailand.

The signing of the latest agreement was witnessed by Premier Li Keqiang and his Thai counterpart, Prayut Chan-o-cha, in December during the fifth Greater Mekong Subregion Economic Cooperation summit in Bangkok.

Under the agreement, Chinese companies will also design and build rail routes to ease transportation into and out of Bangkok-the second-largest city in Southeast Asia after Jakarta. The 734-km project will connect Nong Khai province with the Thai capital. A 133-km branch line will be built to the eastern Thai province of Rayong.

Prajin Juntong, Thailand's transport minister, said the Thai and Chinese governments agreed to cooperate on an engineering procurement construction pattern at the meeting and also discussed issues including investment, human resource development and technology transfer.

Thailand will carry out an environmental impact assessment and be in charge of land acquisition for the construction work, Bangkok Post reported.

The two countries also reached agreement on sharing the work. Details of this will be discussed again at the fourth meeting of the joint working group in Kunming, Yunnan province, from May 6 to 8, Prajin said.

An official source familiar with the project said that under the engineering procurement agreement, Thailand will be responsible for the civil engineering work and infrastructure, while China will be in charge of systems and technical issues.

Thai media reports had said that the Thai government is the project owner, with China responsible for designing, constructing and buying track systems and equipment.

International affairs observer Zheng Xin said reports in Thailand before the meeting that stated China had insisted on lending money to Thailand at a high interest rate did not make any sense.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 12:36 PM   #9119
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Note that Ningxia is an autonomous region, not a province.

Which high speed railway would be most needed for Yinchuan?
Yinchuan-Xian?
Yinchuan-Lanzhou?
Yinchuan-Wuwei?
Yinchuan-Taiyuan?
Yinchuan-Baotou?
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International affairs observer Zheng Xin said reports in Thailand before the meeting that stated China had insisted on lending money to Thailand at a high interest rate did not make any sense.[/QUOTE]

The inference here is that such claims were nothing more than dis information designed to cause public blacklash against the bid.
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