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Old March 18th, 2015, 02:13 AM   #9141
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Some old images of CRH2E 250km/h sleeper train





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Old March 18th, 2015, 07:46 AM   #9142
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Overnight 250km/h high speed sleeper train from Beijing to Guangzhou seem to be very popular. Thinking about it, 11 hours(20pm to 7am next morning) on a sleeper train to cover 2200km for the price of not too much over flight and you've got a whole day at either city without the need for a hotel. No wonder it's popular.
What is the price?
I have only been able to find the price of hard seats. 709 yuan. Not of sleepers.
The travel times are 10:18 (20:15 to 6:33) and 10:40 (20:33 to 7:15).
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Old March 18th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #9143
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TGV pics in personal TV screen background, sigh...
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Old March 18th, 2015, 12:42 PM   #9144
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What is the price?
I have only been able to find the price of hard seats. 709 yuan. Not of sleepers.
The travel times are 10:18 (20:15 to 6:33) and 10:40 (20:33 to 7:15).
According to http://www.beijingchina.net.cn/trans...guangzhou.html
Train No. Departs Arrives Distance & Duration 2nd Class Seat Fares(CNY Yuan) Upper Soft Sleeper Fares(CNY Yuan) Lower Soft Sleeper Fares(CNY Yuan)
D903 Beijing West 7:45pm Guangzhou South 6:26am 2298km/10h41m 709 990 1120
D923 Beijing West 8:05pm Guangzhou South 7:10am 2298km/11h5m 709 990 1120
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Old March 18th, 2015, 05:45 PM   #9145
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That´s cheap indeed!
Just 140% to 160 % the second class seat price! In slow trains, soft sleepers look to be 300 to 315 %, and the D soft sleeper also is much cheaper than 1st class seat in a G train!
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Old March 18th, 2015, 09:09 PM   #9146
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When are they going to resume Shanghai-Chongqing-Chengdu sleeper D train service?
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Old March 23rd, 2015, 06:57 PM   #9147
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CRH380A arrives at Fuzhou, ready for June inauguration





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Old March 23rd, 2015, 07:09 PM   #9148
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"HSR hospital" - the maintenance facility

The trains need to be checked every 48 hours
Normally it takes 160 minutes to complete a full maintanence check











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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:15 AM   #9149
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Lab test for 500km/h high speed train

An internal notice in Southwest Jiaotong University revealed the test of 500km/h HST is scheduled for 25 - 27 March, 2015. So there is still hope we will see this train run on the tracks one day
Basically there will be a coordinated power outage in certain areas/buildings in the university campus due to the extensive power consumption of the test.
The university has the best high speed train research lab and testing facility in the country.



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Old March 24th, 2015, 04:31 AM   #9150
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I think university lab can only test this train at 500km/h on a test bench.

"Real" 500km/h test run can be only done in "real" lines
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Old March 24th, 2015, 08:28 PM   #9151
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Imagine! But just imagine hyperloop like Eleron Musk. To travel at 1,000 km per hour.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 08:46 PM   #9152
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Imagine is the key word there.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 04:36 PM   #9153
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How would a 500 km/h maglev work in China?
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Old March 25th, 2015, 04:43 PM   #9154
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The original idea was to network major Chinese cities with Maglevs. The idea was dumped due to ridiculously high costs and Malgev's relative inefficiency compared to the classic HSR.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #9155
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An internal notice in Southwest Jiaotong University revealed the test of 500km/h HST is scheduled for 25 - 27 March, 2015. So there is still hope we will see this train run on the tracks one day
Basically there will be a coordinated power outage in certain areas/buildings in the university campus due to the extensive power consumption of the test.
The university has the best high speed train research lab and testing facility in the country.
Like foxmulder said this is another bench test, which I believe this train has already done at speed up to 600km/h.
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Old March 26th, 2015, 05:42 AM   #9156
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This test is the new 350KM/H train 500KM/H test.
new 350KM/H,or called standard bullet train,with the same cockpit and most of parts,to reduce the cost for maintain.
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Old March 26th, 2015, 06:21 AM   #9157
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I think university lab can only test this train at 500km/h on a test bench.

"Real" 500km/h test run can be only done in "real" lines

Can we assume that CIT500 did break any records when testing on Shanghai-Changsha HSR, so the engineering went back to lab for further tuning?
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Old March 26th, 2015, 09:43 AM   #9158
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The original idea was to network major Chinese cities with Maglevs. The idea was dumped due to ridiculously high costs and Malgev's relative inefficiency compared to the classic HSR.
Changsha to pilot its maglev by year-end

Changsha maglev project, the first low-speed maglev line in China that has independent intellectual property rights, will be completed and go into trial operation by the end of 2015.

Upon its completion, the distance between Changsha South High-speed Railway Station and the T2 terminal in Huanghua Airport will be reduced to 10 minutes. The project will transform the Changsha South Station into a comprehensive transportation hub, ensuring seamless transfer among maglev, subway, and high-speed rail.

More importantly, it means that the city of Changsha will take the lead in building itself into a modern integrated transportation hub with high-speed rail, air traffic, inter-city rail, low-speed maglev, subway, as well as highway.

“The Changsha maglev project will draw on the management experience from similar projects in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Japan, and South Korea. And advanced technologies from both home and abroad will be put into use for its construction,” said Wu Xiangming, chief adviser to the Changsha maglev project, who used to be the head of Shanghai maglev project.

Wu said that the low-speed maglev has the advantages of being safer and quieter, with smaller turning radius, better climbing ability, as well as low cost. At present, the Changsha maglev project has completed accumulative investments of 1.5 billion yuan ($ 241.44 million).

The project has established strong scientific research and consulting teams and carries out close technological cooperation with several institutions and universities in conquering multiple technical difficulties.

When completed, it will be the first low-speed maglev line in China completely built by Chinese engineering. It is also expected to be the flag bearer of the maglev industry in Central China’s Hunan province.

Maglev is a transport method that uses magnetic levitation that gives it its name to move vehicles without touching the ground. With maglev, a vehicle travels along a railway using magnets to create both lift and propulsion, thereby reducing friction and allowing higher speeds.

By Zhang Qiong, edited by Mevlut Katik
Source: Changsha Evening News
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Old March 26th, 2015, 11:40 PM   #9159
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So now we have two major low speed maglev projects going on, Changsha and Beijing.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 04:35 AM   #9160
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in 2010 it was reported that Jiaotong University was working on low pressure underground tube maglev, which would travel at 600-1000kmph.

price was reported at being 10-20million yuan more per km than comparable HSR.

I can't post links, but if you google "China Developing Maglev Train That Can Go 1000kph" it's the first result.

I personally can't wait to see this happen, and with Shanghai-Beijing HSR getting close to capacity, a second line is going to be needed, and I would add Guangzhou to Shanghai being only mid speed HSR - it could be a good candidate.

Probably worth remembering that in the 1990s the MOR had a huge debate whether Beijing-Shanghai should be maglev or conventional rail, and this debate ragged for years, slowing down the start date of the line.
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