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Old April 19th, 2015, 10:14 PM   #9261
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Nozomis make just 4 stops between Tokyo and Osaka.
I know that, and I was referring to the infrastructure, not the services. Mixing fast and slow services severely limits line capacity. The Japanese understand that and realise the market is now big enough to support separate express and regional infrastructure.
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Old April 19th, 2015, 10:27 PM   #9262
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I know that, and I was referring to the infrastructure, not the services. Mixing fast and slow services severely limits line capacity. The Japanese understand that and realise the market is now big enough to support separate express and regional infrastructure.
Yes. But the point is, the regional infrastructure was and is needed.

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Shanghai - Beijing already had a 200 km/h regional railway,
And no longer have - since Second Slowdown Campaign, just 160 km/h.
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Old April 19th, 2015, 11:29 PM   #9263
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And no longer have - since Second Slowdown Campaign, just 160 km/h.
Which is just completely stupid.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 07:29 AM   #9264
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Note that all Nozomis make 3 stops within 26 km of Tokyo. Tokyo, Shinagawa and Shin-Yokohama. There used to be trains which skipped either Shinagawa or Shin-Yokohama, but no more are.
Taiwan HSR also has all express trains stopping in Banqiao Station, 7 km from Taipei.

How many stops should express CRH trains make in Shanghai? In Beijing?
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Old April 20th, 2015, 07:40 AM   #9265
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the rail line in the distance is the old Beijing-Harbin line.
Thank you so much. I didn't think I would really get an answer but you came out with so much more!
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Old April 20th, 2015, 07:49 AM   #9266
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I noticed that Cantonese announcements occur on the Guangzhou subway system.
Do they occur on trains in and out of Guangdong as well?
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Old April 20th, 2015, 09:42 AM   #9267
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I noticed that Cantonese announcements occur on the Guangzhou subway system.
Do they occur on trains in and out of Guangdong as well?
Probably not because there are large parts of Guangdong where the dominant language isn't Yue Chinese (Cantonese and related dialects).
The Shenzhen and Foshan metro systems also have announcements in Cantonese however.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 01:21 PM   #9268
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Haven't been able to find a taxi driver in Shenzhen that understands Cantonese in while now

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Old April 20th, 2015, 04:44 PM   #9269
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I noticed that Cantonese announcements occur on the Guangzhou subway system.
Do they occur on trains in and out of Guangdong as well?
Not on the CRH trains though from my trips between Guangzhou and Shenzhen.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 05:03 PM   #9270
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Not on the CRH trains though from my trips between Guangzhou and Shenzhen.
That's strange. Just came back from the Canton fair. Took trains to Shenzhen and Zhongshan. All had announcements in Cantonese.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #9271
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That's strange. Just came back from the Canton fair. Took trains to Shenzhen and Zhongshan. All had announcements in Cantonese.
You are correct, the local trains in the delta region all have announcements in both Mandarin and Cantonese, followed by English of course.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #9272
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Haven't been able to find a taxi driver in Shenzhen that understands Cantonese in while now

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The vast majority of taxi drivers in Shenzhen are migrants who hail from areas that are outside the Pearl River Delta region so it's unlikely they are able to communicate in Cantonese.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #9273
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Hefei-Bengbu(合蚌) HSR over Gaotang Lake(高塘湖)

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Old April 21st, 2015, 06:36 AM   #9274
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the rail line in the distance is the old Beijing-Harbin line.
Do you have a link for the entire map (ie. whole of China)? I have seen an earlier version of it (excellent!) but not as recent as this edition.
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Old April 21st, 2015, 06:39 AM   #9275
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According to the new timetable (from May), it appears there will be a new Guangzhou South-Chengdu East "G" train via Wuhan and Chongqing.
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Do you have a link for the entire map (ie. whole of China)? I have seen an earlier version of it (excellent!) but not as recent as this edition.
Map made by cjian0732

http://pan.baidu.com/s/1i3tdu5n
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Old April 21st, 2015, 07:06 AM   #9277
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Map made by cjian0732

http://pan.baidu.com/s/1i3tdu5n
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Thanks for that! I think that map is the best one I've seen of the whole network.
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Old April 21st, 2015, 12:55 PM   #9279
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Map made by cjian0732

http://pan.baidu.com/s/1i3tdu5n
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Thanks for this excellent map, but what do the colors mean?
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Thanks for this excellent map, but what do the colors mean?
Blue - opened since 2008
Dark red - laying tracks and testing
Red - under construction
Orange - preparation for construction
Green - planning

Wider the line is, higher the speed it's designed for

Single line - single track non electrified
Single line with dots - single track electrified

Double black line with no colour in between - double track non electrified
With red dots - electrifying underway

All other double lines are electrified
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